Mini 1167 - iPod Mafia - Game Over

[AGar]

Gravedigger?!

Seriously, a gravedigger, IN A MINI?!

.....................

Unvote

Not ready for a hammer.

Katsuki, why is Gravedigger a bad role for a mini?

I've never seen a Gravedigger

in a mini before

...

SCRATCH THIS POST GI, HIS CLAIMED GRAVEDIGGER ISN'T THE SAME GRAVEDIGGER I'M THINKING OF.

This is where the scum slip comes.

Kats has just contradicted herself in bam to back posts? First saying she'd never seen a Gravedigger, then stating that she's seen it twice before.

No. Look at the bolded. And then look at it again. And again and again and again until you get it through your skull what the bolded implies.

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Cue Fate trying to lead the town into implosion.

Fate, take a hint. Shouting and screaming and "bullying" people into sheeping you isn't working. Your gambits don't work. This is what's called a slump, and you're hitting it hard. Calm down, chill the fuck out, and let's try a real case, not walls of rhetoric. You can do this, and we'll talk.

Right now ThAd needs to die more, still.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 1.10 - As of post 351

Fate (0) -
bvoigt (0) -
Katsuki (3) - Fate, Lady Lambdadelta, Surye
Agar (0) -
Lady Lambdadelta (1) - Katsuki
crazypianist1116 (1) - Riceballtail
Surye (1) - Raivann
ThAdmiral (3) - bvoigt, Agar, Glass
Riceballtail (0) -
Glass (1) - ThAdmiral
Nopointinactingup (1) - Crazypianist1116
GreyIce (1) - Nopointinactingup
Raivann (1) - GreyICE

Not Voting (0) -

The Current deadline is May 18th at 9am EST. The Countdown can be found HERE

With 13 alive - 7 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - Raivann has been prodded.

MOD NOTE - I will have limited access to update Vote Counts and responds on Saturday and Sunday as per usual.

[Fate]

What gambit? The fuck are you talking about?

What slump? I just nailed a scumteam.

NOW.

Same to you as to Grey. Unless you have reasoning as to why Katsuki is TOWN and want to defend her, kindly STFU, because all I see is someone attacking my competence with ad hom and meta to discredit my reads, instead of the case ITSELF, and that's scummy as fuck.

[Katsuki]

What case?

[GreyICE]

Yes, I actually do. This smells like LLD scum to me.
But what the hey, lets see how this one goes.

Vote: Katsuki

At least you're obvtown today.

I thought I was, Fate.

Unvote

Vote: Katsuki

[GreyICE]

Also, yeah, that post above?

That was a scum claim.

[Riceballtail]

V/LA for 48 hours.

I'll probably vote Kat when I get back at this rate.

[ThAdmiral]

I actually didn't see any scumslip at all from Katsuki, was just interested in going with the wagon.

Why? If you wanted kats lynched stuff like this isn't helping.

Did Katsuki just scum slip>?

?

"? I did? Where... oh shit."

Certainly one way to read this. Another one is "wtf are you talking about?".
I think you are seeing what you want to see.

"Scumbuddy Grey, let me talk to you about roles and mafia theory... its something we can talk about right? I'm awkward at interacting with my scumbuddies.... Anyway blah blah mafia theory aka Gravedigger is

cummy

role aka lets mislynch."

Ewww...

ABOUT TIME MY DAYVIG FLIPPED!

HEY LLD LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT SUYRE.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, WHERE IS HE ANYWAYS??

VOTE: SUYRE

"HEY BOUT TIME FATE GOT IN THIS THREAD AND LET ME BUDDY WITH HIM. HEY SEXY YOURE TOWN"

I actually think this quote is scummy but for a different reason - seems a fairly non-committal and jokey way to join a wagon which she then pushed quite seriously. The whole "where is he anyways" as an extra reason to justify the vote is also bad.

FATE GI LOOKS BAD AND ALL BUT YOU REALLY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SURYESCUM.

"GREYBUDDY LOOKS BAD BUT CAN I HAZ A SURYEMISKLYNCH FIRST?"

This is probably you're only good point.

(btw just because you put a case in all bold it doesn't make it a stronger case)

My picks as of now would be:
Glass
RBT
CrazyPianist

Hmm why RBT and CrazyPianist? They haven't posted much.

Will answer in separate post.

That post does not contain a Katsuki vote nor a comment no MY case.

I am disappoint.

Was just getting to it ^^

What slump? I just nailed a scumteam.

Link pls.

[ThAdmiral]

My picks as of now would be:
Glass
RBT
CrazyPianist

Hmm why RBT and CrazyPianist?

They haven't posted much.

First of all:

exactly

. I feel there is a lot of town-on-town action going on in this game and the scum are in a position where if they just sit quietly and let it all go down they will be able to get far.

Secondly...

crazypianist:

I have no idea whether people are being serious or just fucking with me.

This game seems like it's going to be entertaining!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nopointinactingup
GreyIce case is lulz. I'll be more explanatory when I'm not falling asleep.

- this was weird, will come back to this.

I thought that nopoint's case on GreyIce was crap which is why I voted him. Sorry if you misinterpreted. In class now, will post more later.

- Explains himself only after copping a lot of heat. Still hasn't explained why the case was crap/lulz.
Also note:

I'll be more explanatory when I'm not falling asleep.

In class now, will post more later.

I'm going to sleep on this.

- Constantly promising to post later but never delivering.
- Has only had one decent post, and that is filled with vagaries like:

Interested in LLD's future post.

and

Fate's position on Katsuki bothers me.

Summary: thought crazy was scum, and still think crazy is scum


RBT:
- To be fair is normally a bit of a lurker, but I felt more than normal in this game.

Really don't see the case on Grey.

UNVOTE; VOTE:Crazy

- Votes without reason. I hate these. Also given that I think crazy is scum this could have been a distancing vote.

Surye could be a decent lynch I suppose, but I think NoPoint is just worse.

I'm fairly sure the scumteam is actually getting wagoned at the moment and are just lurking to hope the wagons go away.

I can pretty much agree, but it's still WIFOM.

- Extremely noncommittal. Can decide to jump on one of the wagons, or stay off if it would look too suspicious to jump on.

summary: not the greatest case, and in all honesty I have gone off rbt since my initial scumteam picks.

[bvoigt]

What was this "clear motivation" again? I see no reason that Grey didn't just want to vote both players.

It was when I expressed suspicion of him. His motivation then would be OGMUS, not because he truly thinks I'm scum.

I don't buy this OMGUS thing. It seems like more of an easy way to discredit someone than something people actually do.

UNVOTE: ThAdmiral
VOTE: Katsuki

I can buy Fate's case.

[ThAdmiral]

Seriously? What about fate's case do you buy?

[bvoigt]

The part about using role meta from other games to push Surye's lynch, and calling Fate town after just one content post.

[Fate]

Oh bvoigt...you are a sexy, sexy townsperson.

Thadmiral I can't link well on my phone.

Its in this forum mini theme, called Cupcake Mafia. ISO me to see my reads and then look at the flips. Or just read the wholee game its a good example of sheeping a strong townread as good play.

I'm not saying I AM GOD AND ALWYAS RIGHT SHEEP ME.

I'm saying how often are you sure about your reads d1? 50%? That's not bad, but I'm MORE sure about my scumreads.

So if you read me as town, and are unsure of YOUR reads, SHEEP mine because I'm 100% sure Katsuki is scum.

[Glass]

I can buy Fate's case.

I don't buy your belief in Fate's case.

There are many players who's been saying whatever he/she has to to get Surye lynched. What makes Katsuki stand out?

lolno.

What gambit? The fuck are you talking about?

I think he is referring to the gambit of you saying that Katsuki scumslipped.

The part about using role meta from other games to push Surye's lynch, and calling Fate town after just one content post.

Role meta from other games is really not bad, if someone claims vig are you going to say: "vig is normally a town role but NOT THIS GAME". I would love to hear what katsuki's response is to having a town read on fate after one post though, because that is interesting.

Don't like LLD's "slip", and then her pressing that katsuki is attacking her solely on meta (especially considering that fate is attacking katsuki solely on meta) when there actually is reason to attack that laaaaaame "slip". Right now I am thinking that a thad-LLD team is possible, as they have not mentioned each other at all even though they are both posting pretty regularly.
ThAd, thoughts on LLD?
LLD, thoughts on ThAd?

[Fate]

That wasn't a gambit... it was reaction fishing. If not one but TWO people sasy you scumslipped...the pressures immense. It made kats post a sadface and give up for a lil bit.

I am not attavcking Kats solely on meta, there is much more to my case.

You seem to be very interested in defending kats without any actual reasoning as to why she's TOWN, just nitpicking and misrepping the cases against her and the people who agree with them

Chainsaw scumtell baby. Makin a comeback

[Glass]

I am not attavcking Kats solely on meta, there is much more to my case.

Ah yes, there is also the WATCH AS I REWORD EVERY POST KATSUKI MADE IN A WAY THAT MAKES HER LOOK LIKE SCUM.

You seem to be very interested in defending kats without any actual reasoning as to why she's TOWN, just nitpicking and misrepping the cases against her and the people who agree with them

nitpicking? hardly. Misrepping? lol.

Chainsaw scumtell baby. Makin a comeback

Ya, nice way to try and scare people into voting kat. IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME AND MY RIDICULOUS CASE YOU ARE SCUM!!!

[Fate]

K, so you admit its not solely meta then. Strike two,

Now, you still have no reasonin for why Kats is TOWN. How did you read her posts if you think my interpretation is BS?

I'm not using scare tactics. I'm asking why you find Kats town, and pointing out that your posts are scummy as hell.

[Glass]

Now, you still have no reasonin for why Kats is TOWN.

Yep, and where did I say kats is town? Attacking your case =/= thinking kats is town.

How did you read her posts if you think my interpretation is BS?

I read them as they were typed, I do not BS paraphrase like this:

Seriously, a gravedigger, IN A MINI?!

I've never seen a Gravedigger in a mini before...

"Seriously? ROLE META MINI LOL IMPLAUSIBLE MISLYNCH PLEASE."

That is a REALLY BIG leap.

?

"? I did? Where... oh shit."

Ya, I can totally see how you got that.

The flexibility of it.

Universal Backups usually help aid against the swinginess of town PR being eliminated right at the start.

Selecting feels off for me. For example, in the game I played where my partner had this ability, he could even copy the "Innocent Child" role if he wanted to.
Copying the cop role would also be a nifty way of clearing yourself as scum.

The only factor here is that those are large theme games. I don't think the general principal of it changes though. Flexibility like this favors scum in my experience.

"Scumbuddy Grey, let me talk to you about roles and mafia theory... its something we can talk about right? I'm awkward at interacting with my scumbuddies.... Anyway blah blah mafia theory aka Gravedigger is cummy role aka lets mislynch."

Another huge leap with no basis.

Need I go on?

I'm not using scare tactics. I'm asking why you find Kats town, and pointing out that your posts are scummy as hell.

where did I say kats is town?

[Fate]

Ok so there's no evidence that KATS is town...yet there plenty of reason to find fault in the CASE for her being NOT TOWN.

Lol Glass. You're really bad at this scumbuddy thing, if you're gonna defend her don't be afraid to call her town, its already too late you're linked with her flip, you might as well go all out in defending her.

@Kats: what do you think of GLASS?

[Glass]

Ok so there's no evidence that KATS is town...yet there plenty of reason to find fault in the CASE for her being NOT TOWN.

Just because I don't find someone town does not mean that any case against that person is good. If you attacked ThAd by saying "Hey guys, ThAd is scum because of the alignment of the stars" I would not like it. Also, what is WITH capitalizing random WORDS in your SENTENCES? I don't GET it.

[bvoigt]

The part about using role meta from other games to push Surye's lynch, and calling Fate town after just one content post.

Role meta from other games is really not bad, if someone claims vig are you going to say: "vig is normally a town role but NOT THIS GAME". I would love to hear what katsuki's response is to having a town read on fate after one post though, because that is interesting.

It depends on the role-- some are definitely town or scum, but Surye's role could be either. Saying that a gravedigger is scum is more like saying a roleblocker is scum, when it really might be either alignment.

[bvoigt]

Also, do you agree with the second part?

[Glass]

Also, do you agree with the second part?

I do, hence the "I would love to hear what katsuki's response is to having a town read on fate after one post"

[bvoigt]

I missed that, sorry.

[ThAdmiral]

ThAd, thoughts on LLD?

I believe lld's case on katsuki is either completely fabricated or based on a misunderstanding. She's definitely a scumspect of mine.

I'm not saying I AM GOD AND ALWYAS RIGHT SHEEP ME.

I'm saying how often are you sure about your reads d1? 50%? That's not bad, but I'm MORE sure about my scumreads.

So if you read me as town, and are unsure of YOUR reads, SHEEP mine because I'm 100% sure Katsuki is scum.

This seems like hyperbole.

But to humor you - what is the no.1 reason why you think kats is scum?