Open 295 -- Island Paradise Mafia -- Game Over

[Quilford]

um so hi

rereading, post up later this week (exams, sorry)

[farside22]

fitz: I'm not being insulting when I ask this, but are you reading the game? I pointed out ZF's post myself just 2 pages ago.

unvote

I'm really confused by fitz.

[farside22]

I'm going to be honest. Yeah I know it's mafia who beside town knows what is truth or what.

I saw magua's flip and comment and thought he protected me. I felt if I was the person mafia shot at that maybe it was because I was onto something in my suspicion day 1.
Yeah I'm paranoid.

I had on day 1 Scum:
Yabba
bv310/morph
Sundry
Star (as I said previously star lurking is null we have a replacement that unvoted and still waiting for more info, hence why they are last on my list).

Star and the bv310 has since flipped town which leaves me with yabba and sundy.
Fitz keeps bothering me but I wonder if it's something that I can't put a finger on or if I'm just hypersensative.

Fitz: My post I pointed out that you had only 1 case that I could find on DRK and 1 case on Jora. I wanted you to expand on your reason's for why you find both scummy because I don't see it.

I'm going to go reread yabba (now quilford) and Sundry.

[DeathRowKitty]

There will likely be an extended period of sleep between now and a useful post, but I may as well ask before then: how important is it to vote for people you think are scum? Anyway, bbl bai!

[havingfitz]

fitz: I'm not being insulting when I ask this, but are you reading the game? I pointed out ZF's post myself just 2 pages ago.

I am reading the game. The reading is coming over such an expanded length of RL time that I may be missing some connections between items or forgetting some things that were said. When you say you commented on a ZF do you mean this past Friday or 2 days of game time? Can you link to the post to which you refer?

Also...since I am taking a step back from my suspicions on you...I need to figure out who my next votee will be. I think the two mislynch wagons shine a little POE light on TT. I also want to take a closer look at yabbaguy's slot.

@farside...any suspicions I have expressed towards }|{opa and DRK are still there to be found in print (most likely in the post's where I voted them). I've backed off a bit on my }|{opa suspicions since D1 but I would say nothing has changed for me regarding DRK. If I don't end up putting my vote on her it will only be because I determine someone else is more suspect.

pre-view edit...more good stuff there from DRK.

[Jora]

@ Farside. Yep, I think you did a right thing.
IMO Fitz-mafia simply not interested in killing Farside-town. Because he kind of hiding behind this Fitz vs Farside debate.

[farside22]

My doc comment post 705

Fitz I have asked you to put down a case, now I already did my search and posted your "case" on Jora and DRK. I'm asking for you to expand on it. Why do you keep avoiding this?

[farside22]

@ Farside. Yep, I think you did a right thing.
IMO Fitz-mafia simply not interested in killing Farside-town. Because he kind of hiding behind this Fitz vs Farside debate.

You know I will kick myself 20 times over if he flips mafia.

Anyways I will take a step back and clear my head

[havingfitz]

}|{opa...are you now saying you think I am Mafia?

farside...what do you want me to talk about regarding }|{opa? It was D1 suspicions that have waned a bit. I'm not avoiding it...I'm just not sure why I should go to the trouble to explaining cases I made (and posted) on D1 and D2. For me to rehash what I was thinking I would simply be doing the same thing you could do and be looking back at my ISO. This is D3 and I have not focused on }|{opa since D1. Iirc my focus on DRK has been mostly for her extreme lack of posting/content. I prefer not to suspect/vote people for that but after a point I can't help but think scum could just be laying low...out of sight out of mind.

[Jora]

What? No.

[havingfitz]

What? No.

Oh. That's how I interpreted this:

IMO Fitz-mafia simply not interested in killing Farside-town. Because he kind of hiding behind this Fitz vs Farside debate.

[farside22]

I get the DRK feeling.
I'm just going to put what I thought on day 2 that hit me as what I saw for connections.

I thouoght I saw sunday/DRK connection. It's hard to explain on paper, but the best I can explain is the vote from DRK on Sundy and when I asked why he didn't vote for him the next day he didn't respond. I found the lack of follow thru odd, but I had a town read on DRK early. The lurking and joking around it more annoying.

I had Yabba with ZF (yes I know now that ZF is town but again this was my day 2 thoughts). I didn't like Yabba way of throwing things on ZF then backing off. Again this more difficult to explain as ZF has now flipped town. Yabba and Fitz started to look possible. I remember yabba finding suspicion on Fitz and then after the arguement backing off. He says next to nothing about the guy since and I find scum to avoid their scum buddies or have akward exchanges.

In short I would vote Yabba/Sundy and see which is more realistic.

vote: Sundy

I'm going to see what yabba's replacement will come back with, but Sundy hasn't said much today.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.02

Sundy - 2 - }|{opa, farside22
havingfitz - 1 - Sundy
}|{opa - 1 - ToastyToast

Not Voting: DeathRowKitty, Quilford, havingfitz

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: June 2.

V/LA: Quilford, through Thursday May 19

[havingfitz]

Right now for me my scum gut/reads are like this.

farside - town due to NK/protect speculation

Everyone else some degree of scum...in this loose order: (Sundy=TT)>DRK>}|{opa

I need to read TT again and see if my TT VCA outweighs my Sundy gut feel.

[Sundy]

Farside I don't understand why you repeatedly get a scum read on Fitz and then talk yourself out of it.

[ToastyToast]

I thouoght I saw sunday/DRK connection. It's hard to explain on paper, but the best I can explain is the vote from DRK on Sundy and when I asked why he didn't vote for him the next day he didn't respond. I found the lack of follow thru odd, but I had a town read on DRK early. The lurking and joking around it more annoying.

Yeah I've been thinking about it and, if my vote analysis is wrong with the choice b/w yabba and jora, then sundy and DRK make a good scum team. Both were under the radar until people pushed them to speak up, which makes sense given that town was deciding b/w two town to lynch. Also, DRK defending me makes sense from a scum perspective because I think the day as a whole pointed to me, not CDB, as the correct lynch.

Based on my own vote analysis (which would place one scum among DRK or farside) I feel comfortable with

Unvote:Vote:DRK

. Sundy works as scum, sure, but I'm starting to see this more and more.

[farside22]

Farside I don't understand why you repeatedly get a scum read on Fitz and then talk yourself out of it.

I'm a stubborn person and proud person. Just because most everything about fitz feels like I would like to tear my hair out, no one agrees with me. I take a step back and think maybe the guy just rubs me wrong. I have a tendancy to see things and hold onto it like a dog with a bone.
But when no one else see's it, I think maybe I'm just crazy. Maybe something about fitz rubs me wrong more then scummy.

I never saw you say you thought he was scummy. Yesterday your scum list was me/zf in the beginning, well he flipped town doctor, where is your head at now?

[havingfitz]

farside...Sundy has been dropping my name this entire game. I think today's vote is his first but I've definitely been a subtle target for him. He's prbably been laying the groundwork for his current vote.

[farside22]

farside...Sundy has been dropping my name this entire game. I think today's vote is his first but I've definitely been a subtle target for him. He's prbably been laying the groundwork for his current vote.

mmmm I need to check into that. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Jora]

I'm bored.

[Nobody Special]

Me too.

[farside22]

We need prods!

[havingfitz]

Agreed on the prods.

Thanks a lot for replacing in Quilford

DRK's gameplay is staying consistent as well

[Nobody Special]

Quilford has been prodded (he informed me he would have limited access, not NO access) and DRK is being force-replaced (whether he posts in here or not).

[ToastyToast]

In the mean time, havingfitz, have you re-examined my slot yet?
And farside, did you check to see if you indeed agree with havingfitz regarding Sundy?
Just some things to talk about while we wait