Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[populartajo]

pretty sure nobody told me this had already started.

post in some hours

[populartajo]

i already love this game

townz

4) Benmage - agressive benmage is town benmage
8) CrimpingNoofball - meta
14) SpyreX - meta
16) AlmasterGM - gut
18) evilpacman18 - dgb-camn-juls paranoia is a towntell.

dunno yet, i need moar input list

1) The Mask - dunno what to make of his spyrex hate
3) Amrun - i agree too much coincidence but reads are interesting
5) Lowell - not enough input
6) Juls - loaded question is loaded question, i dislike when people post when they are going to post, but posting is overall ok.

the I have doubts list

7) kanyeknowsbest - bad posts
10) xRECKONERx - smells bad, gut
11) Sathoris - reck attack feels weird
12) Haylen - bad post is bad post
13) Magister Ludi - gut, attack on evil feels oportuinistic

scumzorz list

9) WingDamage9001 - terrible posts
15) Katsuki - terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught
17) Cobblerfone -

My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell

lets do this

Unvote Vote: katsuki

L-1.

Claim.

[populartajo]

this is speed mafia or waht

[populartajo]

mmmmm

breadcrumbs?, what had you planeed to do with your role?

[populartajo]

Amrun is town. Albeit misguided, but nonetheless town.
Cobble is scum.

also why

[populartajo]

i agree KILL IT WITH FIRE

[populartajo]

add populartajo to the HOARDE.

this post was bad and you should feel bad
did you miss his arbitrary read list?

PS Katsuki's claim is lol
lynch it now

lol whats your problem with my list?

[populartajo]

make a better list now

[populartajo]

Guys, I thought the same thing but

1) Anything not on this list doesn't appear in the game
2) No role is guaranteed to be in the game, aside from vanilla townie
3) Any role can appear twice or more
4) A mafia member cannot perform a nightkill and another action on the same night

anybody can claim anything with no risk of being cced.

[populartajo]

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell

The only game I've finished, I've been scum. I don't have a town to compare metas yet, but I was calm and calculating as scum. (At least, I like to think so. )
And there wasn't a votecount yet, what am I supposed to do, sit in the dark and hope no one accidentally gets lynched early because everybody lost track? It reads like a joke reason. This post is horrible.

VOTE: Populartajo
you made a nervous joke to appera you were all cool when you voted katsuki. scumtell
you posted an unoficial votecount to appear helpful. scumtell.
my post isnt horrible.
tyvm.

Reck while the contents of the list itself are kinda WOOSH in spots I kinda get a good vibe from its existence.

Quite bad, first genuine scum-buddying tell I've been able to discern. Even if Populartajo is town it still seems like you're trying too hard to be flexible.
PREDIT: Woah, you're still voting for Katsuki aren't you? But you're showing doubts? And trying to make it seem like a town lynch wouldn't be as bad?
UNVOTE: Populartajo
VOTE: SpyreX

what is this i dont even
scum buddying-tell?
even if populartajo is town?

[populartajo]

lol fail quotes
im def not voting myself
in case its ncesary

unvote vote katsuki

reck, WHERE IS YOUR LIST?

[populartajo]

Also, cobblerfone was basically onbvscum inn the game he's talking about and I have a townread on him this time around.

ELLABORATE

[populartajo]

Then of note is populartajos 258 in which he briefly votes cobble and paints him in a bad light (I assume cobble he later clarified he wansn't voting himself), but the sprints away and doesn't pursue this line of reasoning to join the katsuki wagon. I'd be happy to lay a vote down here as well.

when did I ever vote cobble?

i am not seeing magister ludi towniness, someone can explain it to me?

in other news, I think I can live with katsuki = non optymal lynch today, despite I think the claim is fake and her posts are terrible.

its not like this game is empty of scum reads, especially since I just isolated amrun and placeholder vote blew my mind.

im fine with the following people dying: sathoris, haylen, amrun, cobblerfane, katsuki

also kanye is town (who the hell admits he cant be read as town?)

i keep going back to this post, specially after drawring the amrun-cobbler connection.

Fwew. Finally done catching up. I've played as scumbuddies with Amrun in a previous game and he's acting way different so I trust him. My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

the joke is a nervous scumtell, im damn sure about this.

Unvote vote: cobblerfane.

[populartajo]

updated

townz

1) The Mask - new, liked his last post
4) Benmage - agressive benmage is town benmage
7) kanyeknowsbest - who the hell admits he cant be read as town?
8) CrimpingNoofball - meta
14) SpyreX - meta
16) AlmasterGM - good posting
18) evilpacman18 - dgb-camn-juls paranoia is a towntell.

the I have doubts list

5) Lowell - not enough input
6) Juls - still have doubts
10) xRECKONERx - WHERE IS A MY BETTER LIST??
11) Sathoris - reck attack feels weird
12) Haylen - bad reads are bad reads
13) Magister Ludi - gut, attack on evil feels oportuinistic

scumzorz list

3) Amrun - i agree too much coincidence, placeholder vote is fail,
9) WingDamage9001 - terrible posts, hasnt improved with c.worl
15) Katsuki - terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught, FAKE claim
17) Cobblerfone -

My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell
reasoning to vote is weak and omgusy.

[populartajo]

You're missing the even more awesome part of that post.
But can we do Amrun firs kk sheep n sap?

what i am missing
thinking agm is scum?
thinking kats is variable but still votes her?
trusting amrun?

nah, definitely the strikethrough joke is scummier

Ill switch if necessary but Cobbler is scummier in so many levels.

[populartajo]

Too drunk to respond to this shit

then why post here?

[populartajo]

ATTENTION: BS POST ALERT

His only suspicion that he points to anything suspicious in the player's posts is Cobblerfone, and yet he votes Katsuki.

I pointed that katsuki was suspicious because: "terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught".
And, if you say you can understand momentum, then you would realize that voting someone that is at L-2 is WAY more valuable than voting someone at L-9, in a SPEED game.
fail 1

Also, he urges Katsuki for a claim but I don't think he was ever interested in hearing it.

then you are wrong
anybody can claim anything with no risk of being cced.
but there are claims that feel fake as hell (hint: katsu)
and there are claims that scream protowness (way of claiming), are easily proven (rolecop, for example)
fail 2

The rest I left because he says something about drawing an Amrun Cobbler connection but doesn't even attempt to explain why.

it was explained before: "I've played as scumbuddies with Amrun in a previous game and he's acting way different so I trust him", was not true or fake.
fail 3

Then he votes Cobbler for the same reason he called Cobbler out before. If that was such a solid scumtell, why didn't you push him since the start instead of going after Katsuki, which was the popular lynch at the time?

MOMENTUM, I THOUGH YOU COULD UNDERSTAND IT?
fail 1 x 2

It seems like he's scum that can't keep his supposed reads straight in his mind.

ill give you i forgot to put cworl in my to die list, but other than that im consistent with the people I am FINE with dying. Haylen and Sathoris are lurky people that bother me more than normal, so thats why they are in that list.

Scum that cant keep his supposed reads stragith in his mind is a TOTAL REACH.

As was THIS WHOLE POST.

Please die.

Unvote Vote: Amrum

[populartajo]

oh yay im on streak

"when did I ever vote cobble?"
Post 9 of yours you quoted two posts of cobble, commented then voted yourself instead of cobble.

you say I voted cobbler. Prove I voted cobbler before you made that post.

"in other news, I think I can live with katsuki = non optymal lynch today, despite I think the claim is fake and her posts are terrible.
im fine with the following people dying: cobblerfane, katsuki"
Wiffle waffle alert.

you missed the part where I think the claim is fake?

"townz
7) kanyeknowsbest - who the hell admits he cant be read as town?"
This whole list is a joke but this read is particularly bad.

explain why.

"the joke is a nervous scumtell, im damn sure about this.
Unvote vote: cobblerfane."
So in the same post you say you never vote cobble... you vote cobble.

what is this i dont even.
i never voted cobble before that post.
why is it scummy when I vote for someone that Ive never voted before?

seriously, nobody has explained me why ludi:town, anyone?

[populartajo]

*facepalm* You and CNB just switched your votes and put us back to square 1.

I think we have agreed that katsuki isnt going to be lynched today, so

Katsuki (4) -- AlmasterGM, Benmage, Lowell, Cobblerfone

this people need to switch pronto

Juls (1) -- C-Worl
Benmage (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

also this people should pick a lynchable choice NOW.

[populartajo]

I want you back on cobbler.

what do you think of amrum?

[populartajo]

agree with her post against me?

[populartajo]

amrum did you answer this?

ATTENTION: BS POST ALERT

His only suspicion that he points to anything suspicious in the player's posts is Cobblerfone, and yet he votes Katsuki.

I pointed that katsuki was suspicious because: "terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught".
And, if you say you can understand momentum, then you would realize that voting someone that is at L-2 is WAY more valuable than voting someone at L-9, in a SPEED game.
fail 1

Also, he urges Katsuki for a claim but I don't think he was ever interested in hearing it.

then you are wrong
anybody can claim anything with no risk of being cced.
but there are claims that feel fake as hell (hint: katsu)
and there are claims that scream protowness (way of claiming), are easily proven (rolecop, for example)
fail 2

The rest I left because he says something about drawing an Amrun Cobbler connection but doesn't even attempt to explain why.

it was explained before: "I've played as scumbuddies with Amrun in a previous game and he's acting way different so I trust him", was not true or fake.
fail 3

Then he votes Cobbler for the same reason he called Cobbler out before. If that was such a solid scumtell, why didn't you push him since the start instead of going after Katsuki, which was the popular lynch at the time?

MOMENTUM, I THOUGH YOU COULD UNDERSTAND IT?
fail 1 x 2

It seems like he's scum that can't keep his supposed reads straight in his mind.

ill give you i forgot to put cworl in my to die list, but other than that im consistent with the people I am FINE with dying. Haylen and Sathoris are lurky people that bother me more than normal, so thats why they are in that list.

Scum that cant keep his supposed reads stragith in his mind is a TOTAL REACH.

As was THIS WHOLE POST.

Please die.

Unvote Vote: Amrum

[populartajo]

I just want lots of vig kills. A lot of them.

The Amrun wagon is dead in the water, so let's just fucking deal with it and get this day over with.

Vote: Haylen

this is L-1

Haylen should claim asap.

Obv nobody should hammer since we still have 21 hours, etc.

[populartajo]

why did the cobbler wagon dissapear?

[populartajo]

(expired on 2011-05-15 20:30:00)

what no

[populartajo]

I WANT A CLAIM

dont do anything stupid

[populartajo]

if she doesnt claim in the next 7 hours, 11 am in England, then Im hammering.

we would still have 8 hours to get a lynch on cobblerfone and/or amrum.

[populartajo]

She claims cop or doctor with 4 hours till deadline.

What do?

Easy. Sathoris is speedlynched.

~DGB

or this too

[populartajo]

shut the fuck up reck

[populartajo]

People I would lynch on general principle right now:

kanyeknowsbest

Amrun
Cobblerphone

AlamasterGM

Katsuki

agm scum? why?

first things firts, katsuki should claim her target.

second thing,

vote: cobblerfone.

[populartajo]

im going with dgbtown instead of dgbnuts and dgbscum because im 99% sure camn head would have prevented lolgambit regardless of alignment.

anyways, I think the claim was done in fake manner as well as the trying to play it cool day 1.

unvote vote: katsuki.

reagarding kartsuki scumpartners, here is a list:
17) Cobblerfone -

My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell

and yes, i realize there is only one guy in there but isnt he obvious?

[populartajo]

If I was a jailkeeper, I would've kept Katsuki.
If I was a roleblocker, I would've kept Katsuki.

If I was a doctor, I would've protected DGB.

wat

[populartajo]

I think Kats just claimed she hid behind Lowell.

Does that make Lowell town, or Kats' scumpal?

~DGB

It makes Lowell a big bag of WIFOM, but more than likely town, because Lowell had no suspicion on him and idk why Katsukiscum would bring attention to one of her buddies like that when he was flying under the radar.

agree with this

[populartajo]

Doctor: CNB
Jailer: Cobbler
RB: Amrun

this

[populartajo]

Woah.

This is why we keep vote-counts, people!

scum

[populartajo]

dgb, your spyrex hate is irrational since his paraonia is townier than town; so this katsuki stuff better be a good decision and not some sort of lolgambit ftl.

good night.

[populartajo]

Because scum can come in and rely on the WIFOM of "Well he could've protected him, too!"

But seriously, what fucking scum team would kill Tajo for their first kill?

BZZZZZZZZ.

VOTE: TAJO

maybe because Im ACUTALLY GOOD AT THIS GAME?

seriously, this is stupid, this isnt wifom, assuming im scum, killing themask is a 1-1 that I didnt need since first Im not even suspected and the few cases against me are crap from amrunscum.

Its more likely my reads are better than average and I was killed night 1.

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updated

townz

1) The Mask - new, liked his last post
4) Benmage - agressive benmage is town benmage
7) kanyeknowsbest - who the hell admits he cant be read as town?
8) CrimpingNoofball - meta
14) SpyreX - meta
16) AlmasterGM - good posting
18) evilpacman18 - dgb-camn-juls paranoia is a towntell.

the I have doubts list

5) Lowell - not enough input
6) Juls - still have doubts
10) xRECKONERx - WHERE IS A MY BETTER LIST??
11) Sathoris - reck attack feels weird
12) Haylen - bad reads are bad reads
13) Magister Ludi - gut, attack on evil feels oportuinistic

scumzorz list

3) Amrun - i agree too much coincidence, placeholder vote is fail,
9) WingDamage9001 - terrible posts, hasnt improved with c.worl
15) Katsuki - terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught, FAKE claim
17) Cobblerfone -

My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell
reasoning to vote is weak and omgusy.

if the townies with the town pm in this wagon can think outside the box and get on a wagon that actually isnt stupid, then tyvm, if not when I flip town, USE THIS LIST TO LYNCH.

now onto obvious scum

Vote: Cobblerfone.

I dont but his today's

I think Tajo is town if only because of his insistence that I am scum through poor scumtells/reasoning.

compared with yesterday's:

Amrun, I'm unsure still. For future reference here's the list of people I'm willing to vote for right now:
Populartajo (Reason: Already said.=

poor scumtells and reasoning

)

This is scum knowing that Im coming town and trying to get credit for it.
ALSO ALSO refusal to claim yesterday.

[populartajo]

Lol, I am the worlds best tracker ever...

vote master ludi

Tracked him to the mask...speed lynch accordingly ...I can't post more till tomorrow.

Tacked reck yesterday.

i definitely buy this, no reason benmagescum would come out of nowhere with a claim and a result. And I had benmagetown since day 1 and masgisterludi in the suspicious list.

not speed lynch, amrumscum and cobblerscum are already on the wagon for obvious reasons and I DEFINITELY want a ludi post before night, even if its a bah go scum.

[populartajo]

Are you going to claim, Ludi? Who did you target night one if you aren't mafia?

??

this post is scummy.

why does this feel like cobbler knows ludi targetted someone night one?

[populartajo]

@Tajo: How do you reconcile Kat scum with Cobbler scum? I just don't see it. These quotes in particular:

Should I vote Katsuki, even though the only reason I think Kats might be scum is because of what other players who's alignments I don't know have said? (Though Kats's lynch could help form reads, I'm not sure.) Or should I start with the accusations? Even though I have no idea how my D-1 scum-reads might fare?

Ya know, I think I'm gonna keep with a third option and not vote until something interesting pops up.

If katsuki flips scum, I am going to feel so stupid.

Wait! I thought of something that could mess up the plan. What if katsuki hides behind a godfather? They can choose to be immune to hiders and weak doctors.

And BTW, I simply don't see how Katsuki or I being town makes the other scum. Can't we both be town or scum?

I dont get what you are trying to say here, Juls.

Can you explain in every quote what gives you the impression Cobbler is not scum with Kats?

[populartajo]

except im not flipping scum

ludiscum pretty much confirms me as town, especially with his lame attacks against me

herp derp

[populartajo]

When tajo flips scum D4 Amrun & Cobble are pretty much conftown

assuming im scum, somehow this isnt bussing...

but when scum attack me, its distancing...

good job, i guess?

[populartajo]

Yes because you'd be suicidal to bus your THIRD scumbuddy when two of them are already toast

oh look i can play the wiki game too

[populartajo]

shut up scum

[populartajo]

@Tajo: Why would I change my mind when your lynch is coming? Especially since I've been against you until today. Plus, between then and now, my newbie game has finished. And from that game and this one, I've learned I'm horrible at finding scum by the way they post. So I figured you're probably town now.

ALSO ALSO refusal to claim yesterday.

There was a flaw in it. I'm going to go back to see who encouraged it after the Mask pointed out the flaws in it.

PREVIEW:

VOTE: Ludi

seriously im going to be so dissapointed on a lot of guys if this guy isnt lynched before me.

[populartajo]

i also like how people accuse ludi of distancing me when 3 out of his 8 posts are attacks against me. how do you know t diferentiate distancing from mislynch attacks?

oh also in his iso 7 he voted benmage, that must mean he is also distancing Benmage, l¿lololololololool

seriously, before you post omg distancing, go rearead ludi and come back with a better analysis.

[populartajo]

why does this feel like cobbler knows ludi targetted someone night one?

@tajo: if Ludi = town (which is unlikely), AND benmage actually tracked him (which he did) then it stands to reason Ludi has a role that Targets.
If it were a town role, then he would have targeted someone Night 1, as well, RIGHT?!
T H U S
Cobb is setting Ludi up to fake-claim Cop or something. This is clear.

this is exactly what I was thinking but tbh cworl also brought the possibility of a n1-n2 confussion, which I think its still possible...

i really doubt agm is scum.

[populartajo]

juls ill answer you tomorrow, im going out now

[populartajo]

hahahaha, tough luck scum

Claim: rolecop.

Got encryptor on Amrum. PLZ KILL IT WITH FIRE.

Vote: Amrum.

I might claim my previous actions but I REALLY think its a bad idea.

Breadcrumb:

Also, he urges Katsuki for a claim but I don't think he was ever interested in hearing it.

then you are wrong
anybody can claim anything with no risk of being cced.
but there are claims that feel fake as hell (hint: katsu)
and there are claims that scream protowness (way of claiming), are easily proven

(rolecop, for example)

[populartajo]

Users browsing this forum Amrum

hey Amrum, why so quiet now?

[populartajo]

die already

[populartajo]

I SAID DIE ALREADY

too bad you couldnt kill me night 1

you might as well start doing a list of people you suspect, so when you "flip VT", we might lynch from there.

[populartajo]

p-edit: Quiet? It's been like 5 seconds. I'm in a lot of games and was posting elsewhere.

PROTIP: LEARN TO LIE

you were just posting in THIS GAME
https://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php? ... 3&sr=posts

[populartajo]

Why would scum kill you night one, if you were town anyway?

Flail harder, scum.

Maybe because I caught the scumteam in day 1?

scumzorz list

3) Amrun - i agree too much coincidence, placeholder vote is fail,
9) WingDamage9001 - terrible posts, hasnt improved with c.worl
15) Katsuki - terrible posts, jokes with being scum, fails at defending, fails at reads, feels caught, FAKE claim
17) Cobblerfone -

My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good

lunch

lynch.
VOTE: Katsuki

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell
reasoning to vote is weak and omgusy.

[populartajo]

There were 4 minutes between your post and mine. I'm in like 4 games in the Theme Park. I wasn't looking at this one. I happened to be looking at Snow_Bunny's.

p-edit: Quiet? It's been like 5 seconds. I'm in a lot of games and was posting elsewhere.

I'm in a lot of games and was posting elsewhere.

I'm in a lot of games and was posting elsewhere.

posting elsewhere

posting

[/quote]

[populartajo]

my point is that I just caught you lying

you said you were quiet because you were posting elsewhere

but if you click here https://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php? ... 3&sr=posts, it shows that you werent.

TRY HARDER SCUM

[populartajo]

i guess lynching the informative role its kinda silly

but i guess we are still in good shape,

what flavor do you want that humble pie, Juls?

[populartajo]

And my online status is hidden so you couldn't have seen me browsing this forum even if you tried. I did happen to be browsing the forum, but it doesn't matter.

I didn't want to say this without checking my settings, but I just did. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I love this game.

why did you feel the need to check your settings if you know I am scum?

oh right, I forgot, YOU ARE SCUM.

[populartajo]

DGB, trust me in this one.

I know it doesnt make sense to you but do so.

The two scum left are definitely power roles.

So think about it.

Amrum is scum.

[populartajo]

oh, camn, I know you can taste it.

Just analyse that the scum left are very likely all scum powerroles

And that I was going down anyways, so its my last effort to catch scum

Everything points to amrum scum, her last lie, her constant promisses to post, etc

With no doctor on the setup and knowing Im town, now I know I was town jailkept/protected day 1 and not scum roleblocked. Which means that scum wanted to kill me night 1 because I was right on amrumscum.

Just trust me on this one.

[populartajo]

hey, Amrum, you said you were in too many games and you were posting in other games.

Prove what games were you posting on.

[populartajo]

more exactly

p-edit: Quiet? It's been like 5 seconds. I'm in a lot of games and was posting elsewhere.

Which are these games you were posting on?

[populartajo]

If Tajo is really a scum rolecop he will get another chance to give his buddies info. This wreaks of a sacrifice. I don't know that I buy they are buddies but something tajo said a while ago made no sense whatsoever. He said that he was jailkept N1 because they knew he was on Amrun's tail. That would assume that scum knew his role. That doesn't make sense. He can "prove" himself by being a scum rolecop and claiming he is a town rolecop. I don't buy it, sorry.

No, you didnt get it.
We know its likely themask jailkept me night 1.
What I was saying is that people were suggesting that there was no kill night 1 because themask jailkept me, assuming I was scum doing the kill. Thats basically the only case against me.
But what really happened is that scum tried to kill me night 1 because I was attacking amrumscum and my reads were accurate. So what themask actually did was a protection on me.

[populartajo]

Tajo: does the Weakling role flip as Encrypter or something?
If not, how are you planning on explaining that?

as I said, trust me on this one

I know it doesnt make sense to you and you probably think Im crazy

but Im that sure about amrum scum

[populartajo]

the only thing I say to you, camn, is that Im not scum.

[populartajo]

the fact that amrum is fighting this despite saying she would feel vindicated at the end, should be enough for those last votes.

re: targets, what Spyrex said.

[populartajo]

I might claim my previous actions but I REALLY think its a bad idea.

"previous actions" plural. "PREVIOUS ACTIONS" PLURAL.
Fact: If tajo was telling the truth he would have exactly ONE other action because he was jailkept N1.

the fact that I was jailkept N1, doesnt mean I didnt target anyone N1.

[populartajo]

i guess this is ok to answer

no

[populartajo]

im playing this game with you crimping, because you know this is either scum or a gamet and, and as I said the only think you should know is that im not scum. Maybe DGB could understand this better than you.

"i targetted katsuki night 1."

[populartajo]

cobblerfone

[populartajo]

Unvote, Vote: Tajo

Fine.

FINE.

No

Spy, trust me on this one.

[populartajo]

Also wait what you were roleblocked Night 1.

i was, thats what I didnt get a result

ALSO WHY WOULD YOU TARGET KATSUKI

Because I was pretty sure she was fakeclaiming.

[populartajo]

WHO IS A VT?

WHO SUPPOSEDLY NAILED THE WHOLE SCUM TEAM ON DAY 1? MINUS LUDI AND COBBLER, RIGHT?

rolecop gets vt on vanilla and goon, so you fail again

[populartajo]

Because I was pretty sure she was fakeclaiming.

So what, she was dead the next day and everybody knew it. We didn't need a rolecop on her.

what no

why would she be dead the next day?

[populartajo]

juls, read the fucking game

I targetted cobler

[populartajo]

STOP. DAMNING EVIDENCE FOUD.

now onto obvious scum
Vote: Cobblerfone.

AFTER THE VANILLA ON HIM.

WITH TWO GOONS ALREADY FLIPPED.

BULL SHIT.

he could still be godfather

dont be silly

[populartajo]

and only one good had flipped

[populartajo]

I missed his cobbler claim. He should have at least give him the benefit of the doubt IMO, not immediately vote him the next day.

the nilla result is as null as it gets

tthink, people, think

[populartajo]

It's NULL, but not guaranteed scum as you placed him.

but it was scum for scumtells

god juls

[populartajo]

ok, Im going to bed, so if Im being lynched, then READ THIS

I wasnt planning to survive today, so this doesnt make me sad, I guess I got too greedy when Amrum was starting to get wagoned, so well.

Im town. Im not a rolecop. I gambitted because Im that sure Amrum is scum.

The best part is that this experience is such an awesome source of reactions.

Only scum knew I was lying, so people that feels extremely well informed, as RECK, are prob scum.

Townies didnt know I was lying so I expect them to waffle about this stuff or to even defend me. C-Worl, Juls, AGM and Spyrex are OBVTOWN for this.

so when I flip town, because I will, read this:

townz

7) kanyeknowsbest - town
8) CrimpingNoofball -
9) C worl - THIS GUY IS TOWN FOR SURE, JUST TRUST ME WHEN I FLIP
14) SpyreX - meta
16) AlmasterGM - good posting
18) evilpacman18 - dgb-camn-juls paranoia is a towntell.
5) Lowell - not enough input
6) Juls -
11) Sathoris - guess its ok

the prob scum list

10) xRECKONERx - HE SEEMS TOO INFORMED OF THIS SITATUION, WHEN I FLIP YOULL UNDERSTAND
3) Amrun - PLEASE LINCH THIS SCUM TOMORROW
17) Cobblerfone - Im less sure of this guy but if reck and amrum are not scum, then this is a good lynch.

[populartajo]

If you are actually town and did this on a larf I swear to the name of everything holy.

I was going down anyway, so I thought that the best way to die was to try to gauge reactions ftw

i also think amrum is 99% scum

but you guys need my flip so go for it

[populartajo]

these people are town for sure: amg, spyrex, cworld and prob juls, just for the fact that they made sure I wasnt lying when I gambitted.

kanye, dgb and evil are town for other reasons that are listed on my previous list

this leaves us with lowell which is prob town for katsuuki

so the lynch pool is reck, amrum and cobblerfone

good nigh

[populartajo]

Ohh yea he's dead.

I'm just going to be covered in ragebees if this game went from "SLAM DUNK" to "REACTION HIJINKS" because of a damn lol, gambit WHEN WE ARE IN GOOD POSITION FFS.

I WAS GOING TO GET LYNCHED ANYWAYS

AND FOR A STUPID REASON THAT TLDRS "TAJO ISNT A NIGHTKILL N1"

LOL AT RECK FOR SAYING THAT IM BETTER THAN THIS.

SCUM

[populartajo]

JUST LYUNCH AMRUM AND RECK TOMORROW

my point is that I just caught you lying

you said you were quiet because you were posting elsewhere

but if you click here https://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php? ... 3&sr=posts, it shows that you werent.

TRY HARDER SCUM

And my online status is hidden so you couldn't have seen me browsing this forum even if you tried. I did happen to be browsing the forum, but it doesn't matter.

I didn't want to say this without checking my settings, but I just did. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I love this game.

why did you feel the need to check your settings if you know I am scum?

oh right, I forgot, YOU ARE SCUM.

[populartajo]

RECK IS ALSO SCUM

SCUMFAG

[populartajo]

And very likely the godfater which is why Crimping is still alive

[populartajo]

lol at these scumbags thinking im still scum when I got hammered posts ago

amrum, are you STUPID? You said you were POSTING. You werent POSTING.

YOU LIED.

SCUMFAG.

[populartajo]

Spyrex, AMG, Juls and DGB, please lead the town following this.

these people are town for sure: amg, spyrex, cworld and prob juls, just for the fact that they made sure I wasnt lying when I gambitted.

kanye, dgb and evil are town for other reasons that are listed on my previous list

this leaves us with lowell which is prob town for katsuuki

so the lynch pool is reck, amrum and cobblerfone

good nigh

[populartajo]

Checking, posting, who fucking cares? I wasn't careful with my words because it didn't matter.

flail harder scum

[populartajo]

I apologize for the rudeness of the previous post.

But you are the only one who doesn't see how bad your play today has been, regardless of alignment upon flip.

It is very unlike I have seen you in other games, which is why I am holding out hope for that scum flip.

i think bad play is debattable

look at the context, I was being speedlynched. What was I supposed to do? Accept my fate for a stupid case?

I think getting cworl, amg, spy and juls all town for their reactions (since they didnt know I was lying and then they did the townjob of investigating if my claim made sense or not) rather than dying its good stuff.

[populartajo]

CNB, you seriously think tajo and I are scumbuddies? Can I ask you in what universe that makes sense?

Amrun is town 100%

~DGB

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[populartajo]

CNB, you seriously think tajo and I are scumbuddies? Can I ask you in what universe that makes sense?

Amrun is town 100%

~DGB

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[populartajo]

im actually done with mafia anyway

[populartajo]

After taking a shower, Im less sure of Amrum, I think she should be lynched sooner or later though.

RECK IN THE OTHER HAND IS DEFINITELY SCUM.

This is a pretty easy situation here:

We have enough scum down to afford to test tajo's claim. If Amrun flips encryptor, he's cleared. If she doesn't, we lynch the fuck out of him the next day.

Vote: Amrun

he wasnt even worried of checking my claim, as AMG, Spy and Juls did.

[populartajo]

Last-ditch effort to save himself before L-1 is reached
NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS

He has 7 votes on him. 7 to lynch. How is this an effort to save himself if he's already dead in the water?

town posst

[populartajo]

also sorry for the emotional outburst

[populartajo]

fun fact : ludi never mentioned reck

fun fact x2: if you iso reck day 1, he looks too sure katsuki is scum.

[populartajo]

After taking a shower, Im less sure of Amrum, I think she should be lynched sooner or later though.

RECK IN THE OTHER HAND IS DEFINITELY SCUM.

This is a pretty easy situation here:

We have enough scum down to afford to test tajo's claim. If Amrun flips encryptor, he's cleared. If she doesn't, we lynch the fuck out of him the next day.

Vote: Amrun

he wasnt even worried of checking my claim, as AMG, Spy and Juls did.

You didn't answer my concern about your breadcrumbing for last-ditch gambits but hey.

Looks to me like he proposed to check your claim. How can you say that he didn't?

~dgb

i didnt breadcrumb anything

when I was about to be speedlynched, I thought that the best idea was to gauge reactions with a claim against someone I was 99% sure was scum. Scum would look informed, while townies would have to check if I was telling the truth or not.

when I isolated myself to check that things made sense, I found that rolecop random comment I made, so I presented it as a breadcrumb.

[populartajo]

fun fact : ludi never mentioned reck

fun fact x2: if you iso reck day 1, he looks too sure katsuki is scum.

Who else did Ludi fail to mention?

Reck can be awesome that way, though.

He wasn't the only one sure that Kats was scum.

~DGB

I guess its really difficult to not mention reck knowing how he was all over the place day 1.

Reck fullbussing katsuki when she is going to be lynched sooner or later is something I expect from him.

[populartajo]

votecount before the claim
Katsuki (8) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
1 and 2 scum bussing here.

benmage and themask town here
im town there
i have town reads on spy and agm
so its either one or two of (reck, evil and lowell)
i think lowell is town for katsuki and evil for his paranoia.
so RECK IT IS.

votecount after the kats and amrum claim
Cobblerfone (3) -- Katsuki, The Mask, Haylen
Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl
Haylen (7) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell

haylentown means amrun gets more scum points, specially because ludi is in the counterwagon.

Magister Ludi (8) -- Benmage, Cobblerfone, Juls, Amrun, xRECKONERx, C-Worl, CrimpingNoofball, AlmasterGM
so def bus here, one or two of cobbler, amrum and reck are my picks here.

[populartajo]

after thinking over it, I think amrum and reck are not scum together

[populartajo]

cobbler/reck makes a lot of sense

[populartajo]

Actually, if Amrum is town, RECK IS DEFINITELY SCUM.

This is a pretty easy situation here:

We have enough scum down to afford to test tajo's claim. If Amrun flips encryptor, he's cleared. If she doesn't, we lynch the fuck out of him the next day.

Vote: Amrun

this is scum lining up lynches

[populartajo]

YEP, I think Reck/Cobbler is more likely than Amrun/Cobbler.

Fuck it. Let's do this.

Unvote; Vote: Amrun

I will only vote between Amrun & Katsuki for the remainder of D1. One of them are dying. I choose Amrun over Cobble because an Amrun flip gives more info on Cobble, especially an Amrun-scum flip.

this read doenst make sense, since reck had cobbler scummier than Amrun.

[populartajo]

FUCK YOU TAJO

[populartajo]

I could make a case for you both being scum and I could make a case for you both being town. Amrun has been BAD today but I just don't think it was manufactured in the tajo gambit.

Vote Reckoner

Sorry if I am wrong.

Good job Juls and this makes me feel better about what I did.

Reck, I agree with you, this feels town balanced but your partners were not stellar at all, katsuki derped d1, ludi lurked until he was caught and cworl, well, he thinks he wouldnt have been lynched at all... guess Ill just leave that there.... also you are not considering speed game and daytalk who are factors that would have demolished a less stellar town.

Thats why Im nominating you for best performance in a losing cause.

[populartajo]

This is a pretty easy situation here:

We have enough scum down to afford to test tajo's claim. If Amrun flips encryptor, he's cleared. If she doesn't, we lynch the fuck out of him the next day.

Vote: Amrun

it was painfully obvious this was scum setting up lynches.

[populartajo]

also reck shut the fuck up and play it like a champ

you played an awesome game

[populartajo]

you guys are really understimating encryptors.

had your partners been more active in the scum qt, you guys would have avoided the karsuki herp derp day 1, the stupid hider claim and a better approach to tajo lolgambit.

[populartajo]

Am I seriously that bad that the argument "its impossible tajo was nightkilled night 1" made sense?

[populartajo]

i think scum are butthurt just because they were unlucky with the choices town prs made and because they fail at daytalk

fin