Succession Mafia II: OVER!
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Whaddya know about respect?
You set your life up real nice in this town, and you don't think about that. The cost of peace, of freedom, it's your debt that my clan has paid for generations. Now Nicky's outta the picture. I collect the taxes now.
Now I won't quote from Rocky, so some of you might want to join me right off the bat.
Back then, I was a nobody when I joined Nicky.
I remember the first time I met him, he just showed me his Rolex. He said "Look at it", so I looked. Then he told me "Work hard, and you're gonna have it!"
Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people don't feel insecure around you. We're all meant to shine. Like children. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
This city will be mine or it will burn in the fire and cold metal that built it.
I advise you to choose the right side in this war.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Flameaxe wrote:Albert B. Rampage wrote:There's a building labeled by a question mark under 22 on the map. What do you suppose is in that building?
My drugs. Keep out.
EDIT: Restrict being the key word, Fritz. Eliminate my competition.
Brother, you cater to a....different demographic.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Fritzler wrote:I am just saying that my vote is for sale, and it is for sale to whoever will get rid of the menace that is DGB.
*shakes first*
Fritz could only hope that he could make it so no one in his glorious city would even talk to her. He had to make sure that if she ever came public with those photos, that all her credibility would be shot.
If you're serious about this, I could kill her during confirmation.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Yosarian2 wrote:Not a VI, not someone who has an uber-controversial playstyle, not someone who's too high profile either. Day 1, I'd expect you guys to go for someone who's reasonably skilled but who can fly under the radar without really being noticed, one of the good but quiet players that never really get run up on day 1.
Very good. Who in this player list would correspond to that archetype, in your opinion?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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I can tell you that we both recruited and now are waiting for players to confirm. If we had not recruited, it wouldn't matter how many confirmations this game had, we would stay in pre-game until both of us had submitted our player of choice.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Kinetic has been my rival ever since 24 mafia, a game that ended very badly for me. Yosarian and Kinetic stole the game from my perfect plan because townies were too dumb to listen. Since Pooky, the mod at the time, did not send vanilla PMs, me and 2 other players came in the game about 30 pages deep into the game when we were prodded. I said that we were confirmed town. Everyone else, particularly the scum, disagreed. Yosarian was made director of CTU. Jack Bauer died. New York was devastated. But Kinetic was the one who made many personal attacks against me. I did not forget it, Kinetic. This game is very personal. You are the one player that I wanted to beat in a fair contest out of everyone present. This is a golden opportunity for revenge. I am invested into this one.
I can tell you that Kinetic has an even bigger ego than me. He fancies himself something special. He's logical to a fault. He would bet his eggs on someone he knew, like Lugi said. He would likely try to get one of the top players early on; beating me to the punch for Yosarian or Seraphim. He may not have played with his choice of target, but he has certainly seen them play. Perhaps someone from Wheel of Time, a game he not only modded, but followed, analyzed, and seen through 100+ pages.
In any case, Kinetic and I will battle for who we think the other will recruit in subsequent days so as to ascertain a leg up on the other. Chronopie and Fritzler are pivotal players in this sense. We must balance subtlety and attrition in our strategy, for choosing too timidly will forbid us from having a presence in the influence of each day's lynch, but choosing too aggressively might cost us getting behind in numbers. There are likely unrecruitable power roles, cult doctors or limited vigilantes in this setup, so a failure doesn't necessarily mean we attempted to recruit someone already picked by the enemy. We have all these things to take into account when making our decision.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Herodotus wrote:It might work differently in this game. We might have to lynch/kill X players from a given cult to eliminate them, regardless of their total number.
You have to kill everyone. As long as we have one solitary VI in our camp, we will watch over this town and do as we please while you sleep.
Chronopie wrote:Not entirely sure why I'm a pivotal player in this sense. Do you know somethingI Don't?
Top tier players with peculiar professions. We want power roles in our organization too, and if the player in question is a strategic threat, the deal is only juicier.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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You realize that you just parroted back to me the players I pointed out in #95 and added DGB to the happy family.
So by picking those players, I assume that you chose a new player. I for one went through the posting history of every player I wasn't familiar with. I've documented the promising ones extensively when I was approached with the possibility of being lieutenant, before the game thread was even up.
This makes your plan a waste of time.
For the sake of the agreement we had, I will nominate Fritzler, Chronopie and ThAdmiral for yours.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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I thought the fakeclaim was obvious, since the professions are completely separate from the traditional mafia roles.
As for saying that Kinetic and I had already recruited at the beginning of pre-game, it's very simple...we want first dibs. Even in a pool of 25 players, we wouldn't delay our choice to risk being the late end of a doublepicking.
And we weren't assigned random members. We're having way too much fun guessing each other's choices for that.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Magister Ludi wrote:I've reread Kinetic and ABR's opening post in this game. They're weird, both talk about 'choosing' the right side in the war and 'joining' them.
Haha yeah. We like flavor and this type of thing gets us more emotionally invested.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Yosarian2 wrote:ooba wrote:I thought we weren't mentioning town reads?
meh. Not sure how much good that does. They're going to recruit someone, after all, and we all know that town reads have a very short expiration date in this game no matter what.
I really, really want to find a scum today. I know that Mr. Flay does his best to make his games balanced, but IMHO, despite his best efforts, all the cult games of his I've been in have all been balanced against the town pretty significantly; it's just hard to create a cult game that isn't balanced against the town. We're probably going to need a lucky break here to have a decent shot. If sharing town reads improves our odds of finding and lynch a scum today, and thus wiping out a whole scum group, then it's worth the risk.
You've played with me for a long time. You know Kinetic and I well. Who do you think we would pick?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Herodotus wrote:@Albert: Do you have daytalk? Assuming things are symmetric between you and Kinetic, I may have a lead, but I'd rather not elaborate until you've answered.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Kinetic, shall we have a gentlemen's agreement to not talk about the map, our abilities, our communications and the details of our roles as mob figures?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Cecily, I noticed that you haven't said anything about xvart, except a question you asked him the one time you mention him at all. And then you instigate doubt all over DGB's content. But you also say that the case is strong. So, what about the case? Or is it just a pressure vote?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Woahhh I'm tired and that post didn't make any sense.
Let's try this again. Are you in line with DGB or not? Your vote is with her but your mouth isn't. You talk about her being "respected". So what do you think about Yosarian and Chronopie?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Eh whatever, so much of this game is luck. Alright before I go to sleep, let me say that I seriously think that Kinetic recruited Yosarian first. Please go after Yosarian. Kinetic, I'm glad you're back playing mafia and we're going to play at least another game together so I can properly defeat you. G'nite.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Kinetic wrote:ABR, question for you:
I agree to no other discussion of our roles, but I just am curious about something. Did Flay ask you for two options for recruit or only one?
You should agree to no discussion of our roles point blank period.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Kinetic wrote:I see... hmm, I only ask because I got my second choice... I wanted to know if you got your first choice or second choice. Because I'm starting to wonder if perhaps its because you picked what was my first choice.
Was your first choice one of the three that you said might be my recruit?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Battousai wrote:We aren't getting anywhere... I didn't want to use this ability yet, but I guess I have to
Pardon: Xvart
There, now xvart can't be lynched today. Those voting him needs to switch their votes, preferable to Ludi.
Nice.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Look at them casually making conversation. Not really saying anything of importance, just quoting each other, replying one-liners. It's very cute. And it's very scummy.
ThAdmiral wrote:Kinetic wrote:Albert B. Rampage wrote:For the sake of the agreement we had, I will nominate Fritzler, Chronopie and ThAdmiral for yours.
ThAdmiral wrote:
Question to everyone:
Does anyone think either of ABR or kinetic would have been ballsy enough to put their recruitment pick in their 3 that they suggested to each other?
For the record I don't think so.
Everyone will think I'm WiFOMing or w/e, so I won't add analysis. I'm merely pointing these things out. You look at the, discuss them hopefully, and draw your own conclusions. I just find both of these things mighty suspicious.
To wifom you back, do you think I would be ballsy enough to bring it up if I was his recruit?
Kinetic wrote:Absolutely.
ThAdmiral wrote:Cool.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Yosarian2 wrote:Porochaz wrote:Didn't we discuss this already? Why are you wasting time?
No, we actually haven't heard from Albert who he thinks Kinetic would have picked night zero, or vice versa. There was that fun little WIFOM thing they did with each other ,but that was them "claiming" their own targets.
Anyway, we do have limited time, but it's not like we have limited posts; it dosn't cost the town anything for me to ask questions. Why are you opposed to me asking the scum some questions?
For Yosarian, the above seemed strange to me. He cares more about my answers than Kinetic's answers, and says it's because I like to talk a lot. That may be true, or it may not.
So those are who I think Kinetic recruited.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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