Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Porochaz]

Hi guys, Im sorry I havent posted in the last couple of days. I have had a pretty rough week combined with a friends 30th. Ill get to it once Ive slept.

[ThAdmiral]

So....anyone looking for a job?

Doing what?
And what's the hourly rate?

You never answered this...

[DrippingGoofball]

ThAdmiral, stop chatting up the confirmed scum.

[ThAdmiral]

Soz

[DrippingGoofball]

You might get "lucky" and wake up next to them tomorrow morning.

[Yosarian2]

Players that don't like the xvart wagon are welcome to pile their votes on MLudi.

The basically self-contradictory WIFOM arguments Mludi are using to both say xvart is town and to say I am scum seem pretty scummy, especially since he hasn't really done anything else.

[Flameaxe]

Players that don't like the xvart wagon are welcome to pile their votes on MLudi.

I could live with this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Players that don't like the xvart wagon are welcome to pile their votes on MLudi.

I could live with this.

But you're still voting cobblerfone?

[Yosarian2]

So, Albert: if you were going to recruit a newbie like cobblerfone or MLudi instead of an experienced player like xvart on day 1, why would you do it?

[Albert B. Rampage]

WIFOM

[Tanarin]

Just a note everyone I will be v/la until Wednesday. I will still try to follow the thread, but don't expect any posting.

[Cecily]

I'm here. This post is just filler because it's late and I'm tired. If I have time tomorrow I will post something and if not, tuesday looks to be pretty clear. Sorry.

[Chronopie]

/still here.

I still think we should be looking at the mid-ranged players rather than the vets or newbs.

/lurk mode re-engage

[springlullaby]

Herodotus, what do you want me to elaborate on? I'm thinking now that Cobbler may lean more toward scummy town rather than scum. Because it does make more sense to read him as a 'retard'.

I still don't see the xvart wagon. I would like Ludi to answer my posts adressed to him.

[bvoigt]

@bvoigt: How about if I get to L-2? Why does it matter? Even if the flavor name was the same for every unrecruitable, the flavor would only be verifiable to other unrecruitables. Which would bring more unrecruitables unecessarily in the open. And I know it will be different because it is somewhat tied to my role.

Paraphrasing

Writing one word or phrase from a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

UNVOTE: xvart
VOTE: Cobblerfone

Looks to me like he is struggling to come up with a suitable fakeclaim after claiming a role he didn't have.

[DrippingGoofball]

/still here.

I still think we should be looking at the mid-ranged players rather than the vets or newbs.

/lurk mode re-engage

Jesus. Read the game, C-Pie. That's what we've been doing all along.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE: xvart
VOTE: Cobblerfone

Looks to me like he is struggling to come up with a suitable fakeclaim after claiming a role he didn't have.

OK. Since some of you are so very very, VERY dense. I'll explain it.

Cobblerfone is fakeclaiming unrecruitable because he doesn't want to be recruited. Claiming unrecruitable in a cult game is the equivalent of a day 1 fake dayvig in any game. I'm surprised and disappointed that there aren't more people doing it. It's the correct town play.

Cobblerfone town, leave him alone. I love him to pieces, but I wouldn't recruit him myself. I wouldn't have the heart to force him to lie to people.

[Kinetic]

I'm so glad I recruited DGB. She's doing so well right now.

[Zdenek]

What do you think about the fact that it might be their pregame plan if any of the other teamsters get's wagoned?

It's possible, but it's a big risk to take, and I still don't think a recruiter would have chosen a new player. There is more at stake than just today, one recruiter has to beat the other one in the long run, and choosing a weak player (who could, for instance, give away other members of the cult) would be a permanent detriment to the group. So while perhaps the argument that a recruiter might have picked a weak player first because town is unlikely to think that he's scum and lynch him day one, has some merit, I think it's a lot harder to justify such a choice in the context of the entire game.

[DrippingGoofball]

WASTED VOTES:

Cobblerfone - 4 (xvart, Flameaxe, Porochaz, Tanarin)
springlullaby - 2 (Herodotus, Zdenek)
Chronopie - 1 (RaudhrGarm)
Seraphim - 1 (ooba)
Yosarian2 - 1 (Magister Ludi)
Katsuki - 1 (Bunnylover)
Herodotus - 1 (populartajo)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Dry-fit)
Not Voting: 3 (Chronopie, Katsuki, Cobblerfone)

[Porochaz]

Although I havent caught up and it will take me a few more days (Im moving out as of Wednesday and I have my graduation dinner tonight) I have never seen a good reason for the xvart wagon and DGB is starting to bug me with this incessant stream. She's not scummy, she's just a big blue bottle buzzing wound my head.

[Battousai]

/busy weekend

More Ludi votes please...

There are a surprising amount of people with single digit posts. I would think some of them would post more (Katsuki seems to post a lot, but not this game). Also, I think anyone who is playing against their wincon right now in hopes of being recruited, should be taken out back and shot.

[Herodotus]

Herodotus, what do you want me to elaborate on? I'm thinking now that Cobbler may lean more toward scummy town rather than scum. Because it does make more sense to read him as a 'retard'.

I still don't see the xvart wagon. I would like Ludi to answer my posts adressed to him.

I asked you to elaborate because I wanted to understand whether you had a town or a scum read on him. It looked much more like a town read.
You've kept your vote on him, apparently because you're mad and not because you think he's scum.

@Battousai:
It seems to me that Ludi is one of those playing toward the town win condition, and not playing against it hoping to be recruited. (Whether the recruitees would play similarly to someone hoping to be recruited is questionable, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.)

FoS: Seraphim

[Battousai]

I don't see how Ludi is, when all he is doing is trying to outguess the CR instead of trying to find people who are acting scummy.

[Herodotus]

The point of finding people who are acting scummy is to find the scum, and it works because scum are more likely to act scummy.
The point of trying to outguess the CR's is to find the scum, and it might work because the CR's are rational humans.

It wouldn't have a high success rate on its own, because at best we could narrow the likely recruits to maybe 8-10, but it's still a way of looking for scum.

It could be done by the scum in a fake way; the mafia might put out the idea that someone they want to mislynch would have been recruited. But the same can be said for typical scumhunting as well; scum can make a case on a townie.