ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[SaintKerrigan]

Vote: LynchMePls

Because his name just asks for it. >_>

[SaintKerrigan]

Bad RVS wagon is bad RVS wagon.

Unvote: LynchMePls
Vote: Lost Butterfly

[SaintKerrigan]

Bad RVS wagon is bad RVS wagon.

Oh, and why is that?

Because I wasn't trying to get LMP lynched.

[SaintKerrigan]

What if it's a purely selfish motive and I don't want LMP lynched before I get a chance to play with him?

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Lost Butterfly
Vote: MagnaofIllusion

Also, yay I haz votes!

[SaintKerrigan]

@ LB: What reaction did you expect, really? "Derp, I'm at L-3 for gits and shiggles, whatever." Yes, I'm undermining the credibility of the LMP wagon. I think we can do better.

MoI, for example...

[SaintKerrigan]

@ LB: Nope. I jumped off the LMP wagon because it's been months since I last played a game on this site, I panicked because people were piling votes on someone I joke-voted, and because of that I moved my vote off LMP because I really would rather have a chance to play with him. Not the most town thing to do, in hindsight, but that's the way the apples fell. :/

[SaintKerrigan]

I've already explained why I jumped off the LMP wagon. The votes I've gotten because of it are rubbish, though. For one thing, buddying tells with no flips to back them up are almost always worthless. For another thing, theorizing that I'm scum trying to suggest a connection with LMP does not prove that I'm actually scum.

AGM, I don't know what you're talking about. The "yay I haz votes" gig was in reference to the people voting me, not the vote I had just made. What's up, man?

I'm still leaning toward the MoI side of the fence, but my LB vote suddenly became attractive again.

Unvote: MagnaofIllusion
Vote: Lost Butterfly

for fantastic sheep work and little original contribution.

Empking's theory-play is driving me up a wall, but I'm not sure it's actually scummy.

Mae is in territory.

P-Edit: Now she's in

FoS: Maemuki

territory.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Hinduragi: Read that sentence again. I'm pretty sure I put the answer to your question in there.

[SaintKerrigan]

I'm leaning towards MoI (as being scum) in the MoI vs DGB debate. I think LB is scummier than both atm. We cool?

[SaintKerrigan]

"Attention: SaintKerrigan is currently in the process of catching up to what's been said and trying to figure things out. We ask for your continued patience as he continues to collate data and type up a response.

"Thank you for your cooperation."

[SaintKerrigan]

Also SK's post where he re-votes us based on our 'new posts' seems disisgenous as there's no sheeping between the time he leaves and come back.

(The following are paraphrases of the posts LB made between my #43 and my #75, to save a quote wall and some peoples' sanity.)

#47: FOS LMP (Actually, this wasn't a paraphrase.)
#48: I PARAPHRASED LMP'S POST. Let's kill him after SK.
#50: Guess. (Ok, this wasn't a paraphrase, either.)
#52: I disagree with Emp's logic, but I dun care cuz he's voting SK.
#65: #61 is such an amazing post. (You know, this also isn't a paraphrase.)
#68: I make sarcastic remark about walls of text presence.

An overwhelming amount of content, I know. Also, you sheeped the LMP wagon and my wagon. The only wagon I sheeped on was MoI's.

AGM!

AGM, I don't know what you're talking about. The "yay I haz votes" gig was in reference to the people voting me, not the vote I had just made. What's up, man?

Still waiting on the answer to this, man.

Also, with all due respect, the latter half of your #160 is ridiculous. That entire section hangs on the premise that I'm scum and that MoI is town. Why am I scum? Because you misinterpreted one post of mine and think it's black gold. Why is MoI town? (Actually, I'm not sure I see why you think that. Clarify?) The point being, you're throwing in tons of buddy speculation and using my so-called buddies as more reason to have me lynched. C'mon, man.

I’d like to know what exactly makes me a viable vote in your own words. Please oblige.

You know...for the original reason, I honestly don't remember. There was some bad gut feeling I had based on your first two posts, and then I decided to sheep DGB's vote. Your #44 looked like massive overkill to what DGB said, though, and that was why I stayed leaning towards you over her. (In case you didn't notice, though, I moved the vote off of you.) You continue to overreact and harp on little things like phrasing (i.e. the "whole line-up of townies" issue). I still like other prospects (i.e. LB, Maemuki) over you, but you haven't made it off the list.

*reads Locke Lamora's LMP case*

FoS: Locke Lamora

Get a better case plz.

the only town read I have that isn't on SK is DGB

...this reads like you think I'm town, but that's not the stance I've seen from you. Clarify?

The last page or two reinforces why I'm happy with an LB vote. Absolutely ludicrous behavior(from both involved, but instigated by LB)

/agrees

Conclusions:
- I still like my LB vote.
- Maemuki and MoI are still on my list.
- Locke is on the fringe of that list.
- Shrimp is awesome.

Can I have more votes now, plz?

[SaintKerrigan]

still, the supposed sheeping came BEFORE these posts, so could you kindly admit to pulling shit out of your ass we can move on and lynch you.

When did I say that the sheeping occurred in those posts? As for the other question...they work well enough, I guess? What's your point?

[SaintKerrigan]

unvote

seriously, MoI, claim. If you don't claim in your next post, I will put you at L-1 again, and I don't care if someone hammers. In fact, I encourage it. Likewise, if someone else puts you at L-1, and you post again without claiming, I will hammer.

Unvote: Lost Butterfly
Vote: Nexus

Ok, this is just wrong. There is

no

reason to even

think

about hammering someone who isn't

100%

confirmed scum this early in the day, let alone try to force out a claim. I smell scum opportunism, here.

FoS: Bilbo Baggins

For the same reason.

I'm tempted to give vezok an FoS as well, but his "claim demand" falls more in line with the VI behavior I've seen from him so far than actual scumminess, so I'll let it be for now.

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Nexus
Vote: AlmasterGM

[SaintKerrigan]

Isn't it obvious by now that I'm the jester? (/jk) (even though I'm pretty sure someone's going to take this too seriously anyway )

AGM is pushing Magua for bull reasons. His reasons for wanting to lynch me are also bull. I'm getting tired of being polite.

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Lost Butterfly
Vote: MagnaofIllusion

Also, yay I haz votes!

This is a scummy response to a giant wall. It acts as though it's wagoning with the wall, but it insulates itself from being entirely serious by tacking on the joking phrase and smilie on the end so it can be construed as a "wagon vote" or something else later if need be. Also, this vote has been thrown around way too much already.

Unvote, Vote: SaintKerrigan

AGM, "yay I haz votes" was a dig at the wagon on me based on jumping off the LMP wagon. It is entirely separate from the unvote-vote sequence, as indicated by the word "also". This logic you use to derive your vote is absurd.

Rereading AGM vs Magua leaves me thinking that was just a case of two players protecting their pride, not that scummy in and of itself. Looking at the rest of their stuff, Magua seems townish, and AGM is fluctuating between the town and scum sides of the null category (meaning I can't decide).

Lynching MoI so early was craptastic. If you were genuinely that ready to lynch MoI at that point of the game, shame on you.

Vote: Nexus

D1 reasoning still stands.

[SaintKerrigan]

EBWOP: "You" in the MoI diatribe referring to "you folks on the MoI wagon."

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Nexus.
Vote: hascow

#500 was terribad.

[SaintKerrigan]

Also, this is still a pile bullpucky:

FTFY

[SaintKerrigan]

(I've been dealing with personal issues since just after gamestart that are making it bloody murder to concentrate on anything. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but at least now I don't feel like I'm hiding it anymore, so maybe that'll help my play. If you'd rather that I replace out, then say so.)

Honestly, I have no clue what to think. I had my suspicions of MoI, but that wagon on him was one of the worst I've ever seen in my life.

There are several players that look scummy, but it may just be due to their playstyle (Empking and Spyrex, to name a couple).

AGM is spamming the WTF button over and over again; seriously, look at the reasons he's voting for me.

I didn't sheep DGB's hascow vote.

Esp, clarify your case against me. Because I'm not seeing a lot there.

Actually, I'd really like it if everyone who's got a case on me to clarify it, please.

[SaintKerrigan]

You were a wishy washy flip flop voter who was trying to get a grasp on whatever you could.

Why can't town exhibit that same behavior?

[SaintKerrigan]

Why is it scummy? Why can't town players exhibit "scummy" behavior?

[SaintKerrigan]

EBWOP: Buddying tells without flips are worthless.

[SaintKerrigan]

AGM is spamming the WTF button over and over again; seriously, look at the reasons he's voting for me.

Carefully constructed VCA analysis from D1? That now has flips built-in that support it?

How is that "WTF button?"

Because I'm pretty sure I already showed how that was just a bunch of crap. Feel free to restate it, though, in case I missed something.

[SaintKerrigan]

[SK is town.]

Here's why.

Also, with all due respect, the latter half of your #160 is ridiculous. That entire section hangs on the premise that I'm scum and that MoI is town.

The above is a townie mindset. You can't fake that.

Also, he's spreading a wide net of [sikrit town tell], rather than a wide net of [sikrit scum tell].

He is town.

I have no idea why.

VOTE: SK

Explain, plz?

[SaintKerrigan]

@ cow: Because the reason for a lot of my behavior in this game is due to the aforementioned external factors. Which, of course, I doubt anyone is going to believe. So it's really bloody hard to defend myself in that position. Which sucks. (AoE that all you want.)

And no, I didn't specifically say that during the wagon. I did protest the crap out of people forcing Magna to claim, and I had assumed people would come to their senses before pushing that wagon over the edge. I was clearly wrong.

I'm asking why town can't do that because I

know

I'm town, so therefore town can do everything people are claiming is scummy about me. It definitely seems like people haven't learned much from the Magna lynch, though, so whatever.

@ Bilbo: I'm voting the cow because he had a scummylicious reasoning for voting Empking, and I think he knows better than that to be playing stupid. Also, your ridiculous "smiley tell" earns you a

Unvote: hasdgfas
Vote: Bilbo Baggins

, because I really cannot excuse that bull.

@ Spyrex: Did you actually read the quote? I think your playstyle is making you look scummy. Which is not a valid reason to think you're scum. I haven't found anything else that's voteworthy or directly suspicious. Ergo, I have not mentioned you (at least to my recollection). Capisce?

I know I'm not playing a good game right now, but seriously, there is a lot of derpness going on in this town.

(Sorry about the harsh tone that keeps getting in my posts. Again, the external issues.)

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Spyrex: Did you actually read the quote? I think your playstyle is making you look scummy. Which is not a valid reason to think you're scum. I haven't found anything else that's voteworthy or directly suspicious. Ergo, I have not mentioned you (at least to my recollection). Capisce?

Ohhh hoss.

So, instead of me being scum for reasons I'm scummy for my

playstyle

?

I'll give you this. I'm pretty sure thats the first time I've ever, ever heard that in the history of my playing this game.

So kudos for that welcome to ropeville.

*sighs* No. Scummy playstyle =/= scummy player.

Example: Vezok. VI playstyle looks scummy. This doesn't mean Vezok himself is actually scummy. (I'm not implying that you, Spyrex, are a VI. Even though you're probably going to ignore this disclaimer and claim I called you a VI anyway.)

@ Everyone: Is my lynch a done deal already? If so let's just get it over with.

[SaintKerrigan]

Also sorry for the rageposting. This is pissing me off a lot more than it should.

[SaintKerrigan]

Oh hey look, everyone and their grandmother's uncle is convicting me. I guess they're right!

Unvote: Bilbo Baggins
Vote: SaintKerrigan

...that was a joke.

Unvote: SaintKerrigan

But seriously, since I've pretty much been convicted, would people please do me a favor and just get it over with?

Here, I'll even help by claiming now: I am a

Townsperson (Embodiment of the Souls)

. My ability is vigilante -- but I'm not allowed to start killing until N3. It's a really scummy role, isn't it?

There you go. Rope, plz.

[SaintKerrigan]

I wasn't going to be lynch?

Gee, I didn't know that.

[SaintKerrigan]

EBWOP:

I wasn't going to be the lynch?

Gee, I didn't know that.

[SaintKerrigan]

Oh, I might as well throw a vote down.

Vote: AlmasterGM

I'd explain, but I really doubt anyone's going to care what I think.

[SaintKerrigan]

You know, I kinda want to get lynched now just to see how you guys react to the flip.

[SaintKerrigan]

You know on second thought:

Unvote: AlmasterGM
Vote: Espeonage

Something about that last interchange between him and me bothered me. Actually, I'm not sure I've liked the convos I've had with him in this game. You guys might wanna pay attention to him when you decide to start taking things seriously.

[SaintKerrigan]

I think I see it.

She is scum. Go on with the lynching.

If I somehow (by the grace of God) make it to N3 you're going to be the first one to die by my hand.

/pointless threat

[SaintKerrigan]

And check out how, ONCE AGAIN, the same people as yesterday are responsible for the stall.

Benmage (1) -

Thor665

vezokpiraka (1) - Benmage
SaintKerrigan (7) - Lost Butterfly, Locke Lamora, SpyreX, vezokpiraka, AlmasterGM, Empking, LynchMePls
Empking (1) - hasdgfas
hasdgfas (1) - DrippingGoofball
Thor665 (2) - Espeonage, Bilbo Baggins
Bilbo Baggins (1) -

SaintKerrigan

Locke Lamora (1) -

Magua

Not Voting (3) - Nexus, Setael, Hinduragi

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch!

Sweet. I'm stalling my own wagon. Isn't that a funny coincidence?

Man I wish had that vig ability now instead of later...

[SaintKerrigan]

*looks at Role PM with more sleep on board*

Crap, I goofed. I'm actually a

Townsperson (Embodiment of the Smith)

. The rest of the claim still applies.

@ Empking: Espeonage is obvtown?

[SaintKerrigan]

The point was what motivation would I have to _not_ stall my own wagon (other than being sick of all the derpery going around this town)?

[SaintKerrigan]

I actually had not noticed that SK used a smiley like that this game; SK is exponentially scummier now. Yes, just for that, using a smiley face to punctuate the fake-joyful comment on his wagon (her? dammit, SK is a guy, right?). The fake making light is touched by the I-am-real-making-light-as-well-as-sarcasm-here of the emoticon. SK is feigning relative nonchalance regarding the wagon on him, even if he is indicating mild irritation at it. And it is scummy. It is oh so pretty damned scummy.

Since you seem to think this is actually a legitimate tell (and I'm in a much calmer mood now than I was at the time I first read this), allow me to counter.

Empking threw down a bad vote for me, and LB sheeped Emp's reasoning. I got irked with their stupidity, so I mocked their votes by acting glad that Emp and LB were voting me. This is something I tend to do when I feel people are voting me for derptastic reasons (I'm sure I can provide examples if you really want to go to that extreme). The smiley was merely a part of that mock-joy that I was expressing.

Seriously, though, smiley tells are just awful.

[SaintKerrigan]

Souls is a key word for something else that ISNT ONE OF THE SEVEN.

Got a hamburger with those fries? (Explain.)

[SaintKerrigan]

I wish I really were scum. Then I could self-hammer and put myself out of this misery.

[SaintKerrigan]

Btw "souls" was an honest misspeak. Not that anyone actually is going to believe that until I flip...

[SaintKerrigan]

Seriously, though, someone hammer me. At this point, I'm worth more dead than alive, anyhow.

[SaintKerrigan]

How much money you guys willing to bet that I flip scum? I need to buy some gas pretty quick.

[SaintKerrigan]

I will speculate that there is scum in these parts that are too chicken to hammer a townie I'm defending:

Benmage
>>>> hasdgfas <<<<
Magua
Thor665
Nexus
Setael
Hinduragi

Out of seven players you think one is probably scum.


Well done.

*whacks Empking over the head because he has nothing better to do*

Hascow is obvscum. There may also be scum among the rest of those names mentioned.

(Except Magua, I think he might be town.)

[SaintKerrigan]

If hascow is obvscum, why are you voting Espeonage?

Because it doesn't matter all that much what I do at this point? To actually answer the question, I'd like to see Esp swinging, too. I'll migrate my vote (short-lived as it is) as necessary.

@ Everyone: I apologize for not playing a better game and for acting like a jackass. The real-life stuff has really been playing havoc with my mind, and I would've replaced out if I hadn't felt it was unfair to dump the mess I made into someone else's lap.

[SaintKerrigan]

Setael is town.

/endorses

Vezok

does

have a point.

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Espeonage
Vote: hascow

[SaintKerrigan]

Yo Spyrex check this out

If hascow is obvscum, why are you voting Espeonage?

Because it doesn't matter all that much what I do at this point? To actually answer the question, I'd like to see Esp swinging, too. I'll migrate my vote (short-lived as it is) as necessary.

[SaintKerrigan]

Hey Vezok, why'm I scum?

[SaintKerrigan]

Ooooh I'm very impressed, quick gimme the rope and I'll hang myself.

I'll ask you again: why'm I scum. I expect a more thought-out answer this time.

[SaintKerrigan]

I'm thinking I should be lynched today, if only to show how much fail is behind this wagon. You want to connect the dots and find scum based on my flip? Fine, go do that. But I guarantee this house of scumcards you're building around me is gonna fall hard.

@ Empking: What makes you think scum have several fakeclaims as opposed to one?

To everyone that thinks my claim mistake is a scumslip:

- What proof do you have that I didn't simply use a random word instead of "Smith"? I'm sure you've all had enough late nights to know what sleep deprivation can do to the mind...
- Even if "Souls" was part of my real rolename or fake rolename, what does that actually mean?
- If I were going to alter my fakeclaim to make it more plausible, why would I choose something that a good number of people actually think is

less

plausible than other choices? Look at my title, for goodness' sake. Do you really think I couldn't come up with a more "plausible" fakeclaim if I were actually going to do so? I've even modified a mod-given fake claim before, so it's not like I don't know how to do it. (Yes, this is WIFOM. But since you guys are already drunk with flavor WIFOM, allow me to indulge you with more of it.)

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Everyone who is defending me: Thanks for the support. But I think it's actually better for the town that I be lynched. The wagon on me may be full of derposity, but the people on it are committed to that derposity. The only way thing that can really shake them out of this state is my lynch, to show once and for all what my alignment truly is. Even if we lynch someone else today, we'll have to deal with this stuff all over again the next day. I'll pretty much just be a distraction by that point, and a massive one. If I'm lynched, then hopefully the lessons imparted by that and the Magna lynch will be learned by certain members of this town (naming no names, *cough cough*) and the town can actually focus on finding scum for the rest of the game.

You get what I'm saying?

[SaintKerrigan]

Because of course they do?

It's been my experience that scum only get one fakeclaim apiece. If you're implying that they're sharing them...do tell where this speculation comes from.

Its a bit far fetched that your random word was a never-before mentioned word that was distinctly relavant to the game.

Unlikely, yes, but not impossible.

[SaintKerrigan]

What makes you think the scum would be doing it here, versus sticking with their own fakeclaims?

For that matter, if "Souls" is such a bad word to use, then why would it be even part of a pool of fakeclaims?

[SaintKerrigan]

Lol...killed by unfortunate coincidence...a misspoken word, with the worst of connotations...

Please, someone just finish me off already before the temptation to do it myself becomes too great.

[SaintKerrigan]

*smirks* Finally. Release...

Definitely

look at Espeonage and hascow tomorrow. AGM may also be someone to worry about.

Once again...I'm sorry for my shoddy play. Real life really has been throwing curveballs at me left and right.