Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Bunnylover]

Bah, really really really hate culted games.
Why did I sign up for this v-v.

@DGB: who are you voting v-v?

[Flameaxe]

I guess I could have added to my last post that I really don't have much to add beyond repeating what I've already stated. Or giving townreads, which in a game like this doesn't feel very appropriate. If anything, I will say that Prozac's comment about Yos seems pretty spot on (as does the rest of 576 for that matter). [LudiSpeculation]I'd also expect the CRs to go after someone that would be safe on D1, and I don't recall Yos being lynched on day one that often.[/ludi] Ultimately, this isn't enough to make me think he is recruited yet.

On a similar note, Cobble's yos vote doesn't sit all that well with me. The reasoning to go along with it is horrifically vague, and stating that he has a history of doing something in S1, but also claiming you can't find the post that supports your claim is super sketch in my book.

Batt's comments regarding Katsuki is also spot on. Step up, Kat. Play the game, don't expect others to play it for you.

Not liking the continued skating by from Cecily either. The few posts she has made are (in my opinion) totally worthless throwaway posts. I would also like to see a bit more from Bunnylover. RaudhrGarm stated he would be back to posting today, for anyone who may have forgotten. Sera has falled off the face of the game (

Prod?

)

Xvart wagon is just as moronic as it was a week ago.

[Flameaxe]

I was refering to what someone else had said. I still can't find it, but apparently when you were recruited and "confirmed" scum somehow they left you alive because you were leaking (false) details about the number of recruits each team had, etc. I'm not so certain whether you were recruited by then or not, but it's something I took into account when reading your ISO this time.

This happened quite late into the game, with a claimed guilty on him, and a claim from himself. I don't exactly see any connection to actions now (and would call it a stretch at best).

[Yosarian2]

I'm hardly "focused" on it. I asked the two cult recruiters one question, on a lark. People are making way too much of what was basically a no-cost longshot gambit that took all of 2 minutes to try.

I meant in relation to Kinetic.

I asked the question to both cult leaders. Albert responded, Kinetic didn't.

Kinetic really isn't saying anything this game, and Albert's more likely to take risks in general. Albert has a big ego, and wants to prove he's smarter then me, so he's likely to go way out on a limb to try to beat me at the WIFOM game.

The truth is, though, that while I directed that question to the two cult leaders, I was really more interested in how other people would respond to it.

I was refering to what someone else had said. I still can't find it, but apparently when you were recruited and "confirmed" scum somehow they left you alive because you were leaking (false) details about the number of recruits each team had, etc.

Oh, no no. I was investigated to be a cult recruit, which meant the town knew I was scum but couldn't afford to lynch me until they found the cult recruiters. While I was "confirmed scum" but unlynchable, I played a lot of WIFOM games with the town, so I actually have a pretty good idea of the situation Kinetic and Albert are in, and the strengths and weaknesses of it.

[Yosarian2]

I'd also expect the CRs to go after someone that would be safe on D1, and I don't recall Yos being lynched on day one that often.

I'm getting either lynched early for what seems to be shit reasonsor wagoned close to a lynch in something like 2/3ds of the games I play now, and I have no idea why. It's unbelievably frustrating. I don't know if I'm getting worse or if everyone else is, but it's to the point where I'm thinking about just quitting mafia for a while after my current games are over.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there, but let's just say that any argument based on "Yos doesn't get lynched" is years out of date at this point.

[Cobblerfone]

Oh, no no. I was investigated to be a cult recruit, which meant the town knew I was scum but couldn't afford to lynch me until they found the cult recruiters. While I was "confirmed scum" but unlynchable, I played a lot of WIFOM games with the town, so I actually have a pretty good idea of the situation Kinetic and Albert are in, and the strengths and weaknesses of it.

That's what I'm refering to, yes. As for the focusing on ABR, it's more in the way you structure them. I know you technically ask both, but I guess thinking you're scum for post structure is bad.

So yeah. I can't really believe that all four of them are having technical difficulties/emergencies either. Unfortunately until any of them get back/get replaced it's hard to do anything about it.

Unless we choose a lurker to lynch.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Seraphim

[Battousai]

^Or we lynch someone who claims unrecruitable when under little pressure

But seriously, where is that vote coming from? Seraphim is inactive, but wouldn't you want him prodded first so that the posts he has a chance to drop a scumtell/towntell/or just replace out?

[Dry-fit]

Pick one.

xvart
Yosarian
Tanain
Seraphim
RaudhGarm
Magister Ludi
Herodotus
bvoigt
Chronopie

xvart is the leading wagon.

I'm spose to find 2 scum from that giant list?? :/

One would be fine for now.

Because Yos would probably be able to talk his way out of any lynch today.
Vote: Yos

If Yos can talk his way out of any lynch, what do you expect your vote to do?

[Katsuki]

Because Yos would probably be able to talk his way out of any lynch today.
Vote: Yos

If Yos can talk his way out of any lynch, what do you expect your vote to do?

DERP?

[Katsuki]

Katsuki- From your posts, you've hardly commented on anything. There are plenty of posts left to comment on.

I honestly have virtually nothing to comment on.

[Flameaxe]

Katsuki- From your posts, you've hardly commented on anything. There are plenty of posts left to comment on.

I honestly have virtually nothing to comment on.

This is a problem. How do we fix this?

[Katsuki]

Katsuki- From your posts, you've hardly commented on anything. There are plenty of posts left to comment on.

I honestly have virtually nothing to comment on.

This is a problem. How do we fix this?

Culted players should probably claim. That would help me greatly.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, question for you:

I agree to no other discussion of our roles, but I just am curious about something. Did Flay ask you for two options for recruit or only one?

You should agree to no discussion of our roles point blank period.

[Herodotus]

The truth is, though, that while I directed that question to the two cult leaders, I was really more interested in how other people would respond to it.

Don't leave us waiting.

[Kinetic]

ABR, question for you:

I agree to no other discussion of our roles, but I just am curious about something. Did Flay ask you for two options for recruit or only one?

You should agree to no discussion of our roles point blank period.

I see... hmm, I only ask because I got my second choice... I wanted to know if you got your first choice or second choice. Because I'm starting to wonder if perhaps its because you picked what was my first choice.

[Yosarian2]

The truth is, though, that while I directed that question to the two cult leaders, I was really more interested in how other people would respond to it.

Don't leave us waiting.

Meh. Considering everyone basically ignored it, except for Tajo attacking me for "pretending to be helpful" or whatever, I didn't really get any useful reactions. Was worth a shot though.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see... hmm, I only ask because I got my second choice... I wanted to know if you got your first choice or second choice. Because I'm starting to wonder if perhaps its because you picked what was my first choice.

Was your first choice one of the three that you said might be my recruit?

[Kinetic]

I see... hmm, I only ask because I got my second choice... I wanted to know if you got your first choice or second choice. Because I'm starting to wonder if perhaps its because you picked what was my first choice.

Was your first choice one of the three that you said might be my recruit?

You don't answer my question and expect me to answer yours?

Guess.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You call me ABR instead of Albert and expe-

[Kinetic]

Do you prefer Albert? I've always called you ABR, but didn't realize you preferred something else. No reason we cannot be civil.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah I do actually. Thanks bro.

Still don't trust you.

[Tanarin]

Bah, really really really hate culted games.
Why did I sign up for this v-v.

@DGB: who are you voting v-v?

I feel the same way you do right now.

Oh, no no. I was investigated to be a cult recruit, which meant the town knew I was scum but couldn't afford to lynch me until they found the cult recruiters. While I was "confirmed scum" but unlynchable, I played a lot of WIFOM games with the town, so I actually have a pretty good idea of the situation Kinetic and Albert are in, and the strengths and weaknesses of it.

This bothers me though a bit. If you know what they are going through, why even bothering asking them questions? You KNOW they are gonna WIFOM the shit out of you, and make it 100x harder for yourself and the town. I would rather you maybe help the town and maybe explain what exactly is going through their head right now. You haven't really done that though.

Vote: Yos2

Something is off with you. Can't place my finger on it, but something is off.

[Albert B. Rampage]

FOS: Tanarin

[Nobody Special]

I just have trouble believing that anyone would recruit Yosarian, the "most likely" recruit/arguably best player on a make or break night, instead of waiting until another night.

Because Yos would probably be able to talk his way out of any lynch today.

Vote: Yos

Classic WIFOM.

Yos is NOT the lynch for today.


Fritzler. Can you answer my question prior to nightfall, please?

[Yosarian2]

This bothers me though a bit. If you know what they are going through, why even bothering asking them questions?

Because I know how easy it is to slip up in that position when you try to be too clever.

You KNOW they are gonna WIFOM the shit out of you, and make it 100x harder for yourself and the town.

That dosn't make any sense. Either we ignore it, or we try to outsmart them and figure out what they're getting at.

Everyone does everything for a reason. If they're trying to "WIFOM the shit out of me", then that's great. That means we can look at what they're doing, how they're doing it, look at what they're trying to accomplish.

I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about this. I don't expect to get that much information from this; we might get a little bit of unreliable but useful information, or we might not. It certainly can't hurt us. Either way, we need to focus on actually hunting scum, not arguing about this.