OPEN 310 - Medical Mafia - TOWN WIN

[jilynne1991]

1) Y
2) Y
3) no vote for the moment
4) done
5) N, null

[jilynne1991]

OMG, I'm so sorry, I totally forgot about this game, since I forgot to bookmark it when I recieved my role pm. I'll post again when I've read through everything and have something to say. Sorry! Usually, my activity level is pretty good.

[jilynne1991]

Right now, I have IceGuy and Amrun as town. Hoppster and Moratorium seem to be leaning town. Tim_hill is null for me, and DeityKabuto seems to be leaning scum. No one scummy enough for me to vote yet though. Chkflip is leaning town, while I have HelooooNewman as null possibly leaning scum because of the lack of activity.

[jilynne1991]

Oops, sorry, I don't know how I missed that. Quilford seems to be leaning town, but I'm going to call it a null read at the moment, since I'm sorta confused.

[jilynne1991]

Well then, Amrun pretty much took the words out of my mouth, but your defensiveness and language is quite disturbing and it's provoking me to vote you.

[jilynne1991]

Sorry, how are you so certain Deity Kabuto is town? (Since my read of his is leaning scum.)

I don't like the idea of hypodocing. Too many holes, but if you guys want me to give it a try I will. In case anyone doesn't understand what I mean by the hole, tell me, and I'll give an example.

[jilynne1991]

I agreed to it in the survey, simply because I didn't have a better idea, and I was willing to give it a try, since I have nothing to hide.

To explain the holes, let's say mafia killed someone someone else was supposed to be protecting, and therefore nothing would happen to the player (s)he was supposed to be protecting, therefore, they have easily found a way to make two scum.

This is hypo-docing is just making it way too easy for mafia to slip by.

[jilynne1991]

I'll try to explain what I meant. You can't expect Mafia to do as their told, and if they kill someone that someone else was supposed to be protecting, won't the person who was supposed to protect the person getting killed be suspected?

If there's anything wrong with my logic, please explain, since right now, I'm really confused.

[jilynne1991]

What do you mean by superficially reading? Well it could be because of a bad doctor or it could be because of mafia. Am I right? (But, how will we know what it will be because of?)

That's where the hole is. (At least what I think.)

[jilynne1991]

I did not skim. Excuse m indignant attitude, but I spent perfectly good time reading this. I'll reread, but for now, just forget about what I said about hypodocing. I'll go along with it.

[jilynne1991]

*sigh* Thanks, but apparently I'm hopeless. Anyways, most people are going with hypodocing, so hey, why not.

[jilynne1991]

So would I, so can you please explain why it's foolproof, since I honestly don't understand.

[jilynne1991]

Ohh, I've been misunderstanding you.

[jilynne1991]

LOL, I have to say, tim's reasoning amuses me. "I think Newman just doesn't like you." That frequently happens, it's just that it's not nice to point it out.

[jilynne1991]

I've got to say, Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch. Someone, explain please?

[jilynne1991]

DK, you're looking *really* lynch-happy. I'd like a proper reason for voting, if you don't mind.

[jilynne1991]

Nope, that was 4 votes, not 5.

[jilynne1991]

DK...plays in a funny way. He always plays like this.

[jilynne1991]

LOL, in a past game, I said I was scum, and DK still voted the other guy. Not to mention, this was after the game ended, since I self-hammered.

DK, you should really try reading the thread some time.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I've only read Amrun's last post so far. But, *what*? Yes, Amrun's right, scumhunting is *helpful.* Not selfish. I don't know who said that, but unless I misunderstood something (which I could have done!) You've earned yourself a priority spot on my scumdar.

[jilynne1991]

Gosh, it's DK...ok, nvm, you're always on my VI list.

[jilynne1991]

Reading, but when I got on the page just to see roughly how's it going before I start actually reading, I saw your last psot. Sorry, that came as a suprise to me as someone had to say that scumhunting isn't selfish.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, are you scum, and is that one of your theories? Since it certainly seems like it.

Honestly though, you think scum's gonna decide, "Oh, I don't want to kill anyone, just because it might take a little extra work." Oh wait, nevermind, you're probably scum. That's probably what's going through your head right now.

[jilynne1991]

How do tim hill's answers seem satisfactory to you?

Also, jilynne isn't lying about being 13 and in a billion games. *sigh*

Ok, how you would know that I'm 13 sorta creeps me out, but about the in a billion games (it's just...1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, oh 9! well plus one on another site.)

You seem to be unhappy that I wasn't lying? Maybe so you can possibly get me lynched?

[jilynne1991]

I've got to say, Tim gave me a bad feeling, but I don't understand *any* of the reasoning behind the lynch. Someone, explain please?

How have I been keen to jump on your bandwagon? I certainly didn't vote you, and this is all that I said about even the possibility that you might be scum.

[jilynne1991]

A liar is scum to me. Town has no reason to lie.

[jilynne1991]

I wouldn't call it jumpiness. I would say it's more like from my other games, I've learned that I should point out everything that might be a scumslip. That's what alot of people have been doing.

Hmmm, about the how I'm not giving each game enough commitment. I must say, I feel I'm giving each of my games more commitment than half of the other players.

I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks of this.

I just realized, it might seem like I don't give each game enough commitment, since I don't understand that much. I don't know how to write huge walls of text and cases, but I do try.

[jilynne1991]

Oh, ok then.

Well, the problem is, my eyes focus more on places where there's my name. =_=

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I'm not yet read to declare V/LA just yet, but I just started taking a math course online to get ahead, and I'm quite busy. (I'm on the final, so it won't be more than a day or two. Sorry!)

I have a faint memory of a question being directed to me that I put off, this may be a different game, but if my memory is correct, could that person restate their question.

Thanks again, and sorry for the trouble.

[jilynne1991]

Also, how are my posts scattered all over the place and what does that mean?

[jilynne1991]

Newman...you give good/decent descriptions, but you're not actively scumhunting.

U know, I try to be polite for the point of being polite.

(Read: just because I don't cuss every 5 minutes, doesn't mean I'm impassive.)

Sure, I may not be contributing too much...maybe because I'm still not that good with writing cases and proving things?

Eugh, I just thought of something, Amrun is giving me a sick feeling...

[jilynne1991]

I'm *always* hesitant to throw down votes.

Something I've noticed though, is that when people challenge me to vote them, their usually town, since scum doesn't want people to vote them.

Give me a few minutes and I'll try to write a case on you.

[jilynne1991]

So let me get this straight: you think Hoppster is scum because golly gee, he looks just like town and that's what scum want to do? Did you not just see me explain to tim why that's a terrible idea?

Why is your vote not on jily?

Are you always hesitant to throw down votes or do you only do that as scum like I've observed before?

I've only finished one game. I'm suprised you can judge me that much based on one game.

[jilynne1991]

How is scattered posting a scumtell? How is being a leader a scumtell? Do you have a wiki? If not, please post links to those games.

In your first sentence, you're asking something that should be obvious. I honestly didn't understand what he meant, but apparently you did.

This was also a post that striked me strangely.

[jilynne1991]

I checked over DK the lst time I mislynched him... Meta fits, I think. DK is town.

I get distracted by the shiny sometimes, but I won't lynch DK today.

Do explain what you mean by shiny.

You seem to base alot on Meta. I'm not that experience of a player, but I don't think you should.

People can change, you know.

[jilynne1991]

It truly concerns me that the top subjects of suspicion and discussion are the three most handicapped players.

HelloNewman, please post your reads and link me to some town neta of yours, since I am unfamiliar with that.

I noticed, I don't see very much content from you. It's more questions.

That, I believe is weird. I certainly don't see a problem with asking a lot of questions, but not offering that much content of your own, disturbs me.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, then.

That makes sense.

Now...my one lead, turned into nothing. Oh, well, I learned some more.

Ok, nothing's come up for me, sorry, but can someone ask me a few questions to get the wheels in my brain turning again?

[jilynne1991]

How the fuck are you an outsider to your own lynch?

*shakes head in amazement*

What do you mean by that? I'm kind of confused.

Just out of curiosity, if we hypodoc, doesn't that mean at least half of the docs know their sanity by the end of night 1?

[jilynne1991]

Well we need town to reveal all the information they got at the end of night 1, for that to work.

[jilynne1991]

...LOL, this is entertaining.

Seriously though, DK, are you *trying* to get yourself lynched?

[jilynne1991]

...why?

[jilynne1991]

DK, that was a fast claim. Not to mention, that doesn't mean very much, because of course you wouldn't claim scum, I don't believe you're that stupid, and I don't think you would claim VT either, because that means nothing.

Last time I checked, you're only supposed to claim if you're at L-1, and you have someone willing and and ready to hammer. You're not at that position, are you?

Someone's getting a little paranoid and jumpy.

[jilynne1991]

DK, that was a fast claim. Not to mention, that doesn't mean very much, because of course you wouldn't claim scum, I don't believe you're that stupid, and I don't think you would claim VT either, because that means nothing.

Last time I checked, you're only supposed to claim if you're at L-1, and you have someone willing and and ready to hammer. You're not at that position, are you?

Someone's getting a little paranoid and jumpy.

You can claim whenever the fuck you want to, nobody goes by those stupid rules anymore!

Well, way to help mafia. No need to cuss, by the way.

[jilynne1991]

DK, that was a fast claim. Not to mention, that doesn't mean very much, because of course you wouldn't claim scum, I don't believe you're that stupid, and I don't think you would claim VT either, because that means nothing.

Last time I checked, you're only supposed to claim if you're at L-1, and you have someone willing and and ready to hammer. You're not at that position, are you?

Someone's getting a little paranoid and jumpy.

Oops, ok forget about the VT part I had, since between all my games, I forgot for a second that we didn't have townies in this game.

Ugh, ok ignore my previous post too, since I forgot about the all doctor and scum thing too. Sorry.

Ok, why not, let's lynch DK. He's not making sense, he's pointing random fingers at random people, and he's detrimental to the town.

That's reason enough to vote him:

Vote: DeityKabuto

[jilynne1991]

You know...alot of things feel genuine. Isn't that what scum are best at?

...Poor nurse. This sucks, because scum can easily say their the nurse, but the real nurse will have a hard time. I highly suggest the genuine nurse to just hang back. (Like, not lurking, but don't say anything that makes it obvious you're the nurse.)

What I also see is that, roleclaiming nurse doesn't hurt you. Scum has no more reason to kill you than anyone else. What do you guys think of this?

[jilynne1991]

Deity Kabuto...what the heck? Someone lynch him, before he really screws up the town.

[jilynne1991]

Anyways, nice job, Moratorium...*sigh*

Ugh, I really despise playing with HelloooooNewman.