Mini 1178: Source Code

[Empking]

Vote Count 6

Hoppster
monk (2) - inHimshallibe, vezokpiraka
tarsonisocelot
inHimshallibe (1) - earworm
vezokpiraka (1) - monk
splitfarvle (1) - tarsonisocelot
earworm
jilynne1991 (1) - splitfarvle

Not Voting: jilynne1991, Hoppster

8 Alive, 5 to Lynch

[inHimshallibe]

Erm, well, very much reconsiderable.

unvote

[Hoppster]

Is that only because I've prompted you, or would you have done that anyway?

Also, No Lynch, Y/N?

[earworm]

@hoppster Re: tunnelling--Ahem...

IT'S PARAMA'S OBVTOWN SLOT COMBINED WITH HOPPSTER'S INCREDIBLE TUNNELLING ABILITIES

Re: Monk--No. He's shown the ability to play the game well. I think he's made a mistake giving the gun to TO for the reasons he is, but that doesn't make him a VI.

Also, I'm against a no lynch. I don't really see how that would help in any way, shape, or form.

@TO: do you plan on using your gun today?

[inHimshallibe]

Is that only because I've prompted you, or would you have done that anyway?

Also, No Lynch, Y/N?

Kind of taking your lead on that one, as I missed the actual claim of it all. Agree that it is prudent to take a step back.


No Lynch is silly imo. There's no way to know for sure, but given the theme it seems quite likely we will have to use each Day's information to help us on the next try.

Actually.

vote vezok

His stance of "lets lynch someone to see what happens" smacks of scum motivation (wasting information) and extra knowledge (he knows something's going to happen).

[inHimshallibe]

Oh, and then you have the massclaim bit, which if he has inside knowledge about life after lynch is a perfect way to keep scum ahead of the town. Yep, liking the vezok vote moreover.

[inHimshallibe]

Shooting vezok would be fine as well.

[Hoppster]

earworm,

So why say "Vezo is Vezo" instead of "Vezok is town"? Unless you're implying vezok is always town, that makes no sense at all.

Also, you had decided my posting was terrible and tunnelly in my very first post, based on that half-jokey caps message? You were willing to assume I would tunnel this game even though I unvoted in my very next post?

vote vezok

His stance of "lets lynch someone to see what happens" smacks of scum motivation (wasting information) and extra knowledge (he knows something's going to happen).

Even though he offered to lynch himself?

[inHimshallibe]

That's just the VI in him. I mean seriously, that "threat" (of hammering self) doesn't carry much weight to attentive Town.

[tarsonisocelot]

the kill taking place when I send it in

Do you mean via PM?

Is it multiple use (the gun)?

Yes via PM, it certainly implied multiple use, but the unknown unknowns here could change that.

[splitfarvle]

4) Splitfarvle, I'm sorry, but I just started playing Mafia, so I'm very cautious. In real life, I'm probably one of the most confident people you could ever meet, but with this game, it's psychologically really hard, so I'm always doubting myself. Also, in reality, I am a noob...I haven't finished any games and I'm not even past Day 2 on any games. Sorry, I'll try to get better.

No need to apologize for being new. I'm fairly new myself. For the record, I think vezok is completely out of line with the attitude he brought in his response to you.

As for why I think you're scummy: You ask for evidence of scumminess from other players, but then you vote for vezok because you think he's anti-town while having a null read on him. You also like the idea of TO vigging him. You've only claimed to have either null reads or town reads on everyone besides Parama who replaced out. This is an easy stance for scum to take since scum knows everyone's alignment.

[splitfarvle]

I'm against No Lynching in general outside of MYLO. This game in particular, which ends after three game days no matter what and has unknown mechanics, seems to require us to lynch.

I also have a knee-jerk reaction against massclaiming in general, but it may benefit us in this game. I vote no to massclaim on D1 however.

[monk]

I'd guess I am a bystander, however I have been given no notification of this, before giving the gun to tarsonis I asked Empking whether it was a oneshot gun, he replied with yes. This is why I gave it to her, in the hope that she would kill vezok who was pissing me off at the time, I couldn't give it to myself because from my role PM it was implied that I couldn't.

[jilynne1991]

I am against No Lynching, especially on the first day. It's stupid and it helps us in absolutely no way.

[tarsonisocelot]

Yes, I plan on using it on D1. It's the only way to know that I'll get to try to use it.

[tarsonisocelot]

King of the Emps has now confirmed it is one-shot.

[earworm]

@Hoppster: Because Vezo town is 90% of the time not very helpful besides having a nigh confirmed player slot.

There's something I don't like about the way you post, and it feels bad to me. Let's just leave at that and get back to scumhunting.

So, in that regard, why did you want to no lynch?

[Hoppster]

Let's just leave at that and get back to scumhunting.

So, in that regard, why did you want to no lynch?

Say again?

When do I say I want to No Lynch?

I was considering it due to the weird mechanics, and thought I'd hear what people thought. Also turned out to be a good way of testing for reactions to the idea.

And why is my interest in No Lynch worthy of scum-hunting from you, yet vezok's persistent "LYNCH NAO!!!!" is not?

Both revolve around lynches, which we don't know the effect of.

So how can you not press into vezok's frame of mind, but press into mine?

I am against No Lynching, especially on the first day. It's stupid and it helps us in absolutely no way.

How do you know that in this setup where nobody is removed from the game anyway, it won't help us?


@ split: Anything to say about monk? Or anybody apart from jilynne?

[inHimshallibe]

I'm pretty certain there's going to be another gun Day 2.

Listen, everyone. Think about the theme, about what Emp has told us about the theme. My guess is that whatever actions we might be able to use, it's all going to reset after our first attempt today, unless of course we are successful.

Everything has to be done perfectly by the last attempt for us to win.

[vezokpiraka]

If one scum and one lynch + vig in a day that means there is a 3/4 chance for the town to win.

[Hoppster]

If one scum and one lynch + vig in a day that means there is a 3/4 chance for the town to win.

We don't necessarily know that:

a) The Vig isn't scum
b) Lynching the scum means town wins
c) Vig'ing the scum means town wins

[Empking]

Splitfarvle is being replaced

[monk]

If one scum and one lynch + vig in a day that means there is a 3/4 chance for the town to win.

We don't necessarily know that:

a) The Vig isn't scum
b) Lynching the scum means town wins
c) Vig'ing the scum means town wins

My thoughts on your problems:
a) we can make sure the gun goes to an innocent bystander the next day
b+c) you'd hope so considering this is mafia

[jilynne1991]

I will be unable to reach a computer until maybe the 5th or possibly sixth, because of a math competition, I will catch up as quickly as possible.

[Empking]

Elliberith replaces Split effective immediately.