Cultural Revolution is Over!

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"Down with Soviet revisionism!"

Vote:mmod

everyone loves random bandwagons!!!1.

unvote

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That is quite possible. It is also possible that I misinterpreted things that people just said for the fun of it as actual posting restrictions.

Mines a posting restriction. I also don't like twomz having miss spelled his quote.

Fos twomz

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I thought i would be mod killed if i didn't post something vaguely pro Republic of Chinaian... I'm thinking most of the "posting restrictions" have been just a play along, or based on something the mod said in one of his first posts... i'm not going to take them all that seriously right now.

Or perhaps you as mafia thought all town had posting restriction and after shamrock said otherwise you felt ok enough to say you just didnt want to get mod killed.

Vote:twomz

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I think the vote count showed that he votes for me, and instead of correcting the vote count, he corrected the game state.

Pretzel (or Fritzler, I don't care) did say he won't be here for a few days, but now that he's back he's voting for no reason.

Vote Fritzler

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There is but one flaw in your logic. Its fritzler.

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I don't like the bacde wagon. It's building too fast.

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I did a reread and chamber caught my eye.

unvote Twomz, vote chamber

Care to give me an example? It's hard to deffend against empty accusations.

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I still think twomz is the best lynch for today based on him pretending to have a psot restriction earlier. I don't think bacde is scum as I already stated, nor do I think the y scum for voting him.

Im going on vacation untill the 21 tomorrow feel free to replace me if my absence will have an effect on the game.

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I'm willing to give Unwritten the benefit of the doubt for now, i think its likely that one of him and frtiz are scum, but it can wait for another day

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ok w/e I probably shouldn't be doing this cause I don't know my sanity yet but : I have a guilty of fritz, this game has slowed and I don't see it going anywhere else today.

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ok w/e I probably shouldn't be doing this cause I don't know my sanity yet but : I have a guilty of fritz, this game has slowed and I don't see it going anywhere else today.

Do you have other results to compare this to? This is the sort of theme where I wouldn't trust cop results this early unless you were specifically told your sanity.

with only one night to investigate no I dont have anythign to compare to. And I wasn't outright told my sanity either, which is why I dont think it was the right move to comeforward but I did anyway. (At least now I have something to say in this thread :p)

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I geuss I should also do that

Vote:fritz

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The passing notes thing. They have the same ability.

@ Fritz: Well, technically, i don't think Chamber has said ANYTHING today... so i don't think that counts.

Also, at the beginning of the day he said

I'm willing to give Unwritten the benefit of the doubt for now, i think its likely that one of him and frtiz are scum, but it can wait for another day

Although it wasn't too obvious, he was probably waiting for another investigation to know what his sanity was.

Bingo.

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I geuss I should also do that

Vote:fritz

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I will make sure you die every game I can. You will be vigged, lynched, slaughtered, night killed, shot in the head, dishonored, ridiculed, bitch slapped, etc... until I feel we are even......and then I may kill you several times over just to feel like I have the upper hand.....funny how you try to play you're for the village. Polish up on your skillz because I will catch you. FUCK YOU! To all the others: If chamber gets killed by mafia ya'll might as well lynch me the following day cause I've never been so fucking pissed off by a fucknut ass crapy investegation in my entire time playing mafia. CHAMBER WILL DIE MANY TIMES OVER FOR THIS DAY!

que?

@yosarian I have no reason to doubt my sanity but in a game this size I wouldn't be suprised if there were a paranoid or insane cop. Im just being cautious.

@qoute above
I saw something like that when I was you in a scumchat upick game, there I saved myself from your wrath when I died, but the fact that you can pump out a nearly identical post makes me think you arn't nearly as raged as I'd otherwise think.

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I agree, Y does seem like a good start for today(I'll reveal my investigation result when it/if it becomes relevent).

Vote : Y

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Eh thats enough reactions ofr today, we can still have Y claim, but hes not the play pbug is sk.

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Eh thats enough reactions ofr today, we can still have Y claim, but hes not the play pbug is sk.

Note that should be pug not pbug

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yeah yeah

vote:pug89

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Wait wait wait. The first kill WAS a doc-kill right? Not a SK?

Yes, the first kill was a doc kill. None of the killings so far appear to have been made by a SK.

I don't want the day to end this quick. If he is another SK, then why the lack of kill on night 1? I actually want to know his answer.

If there was a serial killer why wouldn't they make a kill night 1? There is no reason for them not to have made a kill. Also, all of the kills besides thedocsalive, killed by the doc, appear to have been made by a group of people. There is more evidence pointing to there not being a SK than there is to there being one.

Also, chamber's sanity has not been confirmed; It appears that Fritzler was recruited. If Fritzler was not scum before night 1 how could chamber have know he was scum? It's possible he just got lucky and investigated someone recruited that night. Also, it seems highly unlikely in a game this size that he would find scum two nights in a row.

I want Pug to name claim/role claim before I put my vote on him.

I am Ye Jianying, he was part of the conspiracy that overthrew the gang of four. In the game I investigate each night to find the members of the Gang of Four.

I get exact rolename of who I investigate I got the same line about fritz you got on his death, and got sk for you, I find it hard to imagine I'm anything but sane.

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Are you sure he's a SK, and not a neutral Chamber? If he was just neutral it would explain the lack of NKs. Also, a daykiller or cultishy role that was called SK would make sense too.

Hes an sk in our mods mind, weather thats the typical view or not I can't say.

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So were you explicitly told that Fritzler was a Red Guard?

I was told he was a red gaurd, and a maoist sympathizer, what wasnt added was that he was a recruit.

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Good morning to you all

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I was told to withhold info longer was I not?

Vote:bj

I agree with you guys.

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vote: Tamuz

That is unless I missed somethng totally obvious that makes him protown.

I don't really like the baby wagon today.

I, however, Like the bj wagon a lot.

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Unvote

Im satisfied for now.

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Oh, and for the record, I think chamber should reveal his innocent.

I intend to reveal it right before we go to night, or if I think its relevent during the day

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BJ should have been lynched by now, people.

I don't think bj is scum, for what its worth. How hes been playing since he was accused seems very townish for him.

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Ugh, Rereading SOS's posts I saw that he spelled my name "bacade".

Thats enough for a vote, if you include his annoying wagon-hopping and lurking.

Vote: SOS

Chamber, I'm serious when I say check one of the top suspects tonight.

I dont care what you are serious about, I will check who I wish to, trying to direct me is scummy as hell imo.

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Vote:SOS

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Has he even been on?

I'm Asian and I'd like to say I have a profound hatred (not really) of ipods and mp3s players.

gotta call BS on this one

He is asian, and I've never seen him with an ipod, he could be telling the truth...

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pooky = inocent as of last night

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Hm. Any guilty results?

If I have a guilty I'd like to hold off, i regret how quickly I gave it on the third day, valuable information can be had through observing interactions.

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BTW, I'm mulling over whether I believe Shamrock or not. His claim doesn't exactly fly in the face of everything CES and I had talked about, but I (naturally) find myself having a difficult time believing a guy who claims that he was sorta recruited, but declined and is a Red Guard that wins with the town. I'm really torn about this claim; I think we should let Sham slide for now, but he's probably not going to survive until the end of the game, one way or another.

I think shamrock would make a nice lynch, We have hit 4/4 so far, 2 of which were sks I think we can aford the risk of missing a lynch when the person practically claimed to be mafia, but not. (Disclaimer: This opinion wasn't made with consideration of my investigation result, whatever it may be)

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I would like to hear chamber's result....

it's not guilty and has no relevence to the current discussion, I'll reveal it later in the day like yesterday.

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I have an innocent on bacde.

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my second statement clearly says its not guilty. And although my first only adressed what I would do if i had a guilty, it doesnt say I have one.

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Hm. So we lynch Bacde, if he is scum then Shamrock and Chamber both are scum?

I obviously find this plan to be needless, but its better then lynching me...

So it still could be that Bacde was recruited by the other redguards, no?

He must be seeing as I know he's town, town wouldn't lie right? (I geuss he could be gf caught in a lie though)

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I'd be more then willing to glork. At night I can torture someone to find out about them.

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@glork
I torture people to get information from them.
My name is Commander Kun Pang.
@twomz
I'm suprised the people(as in person im investigatiing, not the people as in the town group in this game) don't know about it because I was told they would awake with wounds and/or bruises.

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Eh...come to think of it, Chamber's role-flavor probably isn't that big of a deal anyway; most likely he was a good guy when he gave us scum, the only question is is he STILL a good guy or has he been recruited, and his role-flavor shouldn't have much to do with that issue.

<3

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hahaha cause we can obv take your word for it

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Can we take yours chamber?

Mine should have more weight as I at least have caught a recruit and an sk. I have no way of proving I wasnt recrutied before now, but by all means lynch bacde.

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vote chamber

pretty sure he's recruited

I'm pretty sure I wasnt. Last night I investigated thok.

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Actually, that is a good point. Chamber, why would you investigate Thok last night? His voting record was pretty good, as he pushed the Y lynch hard, and was on the Fritz lynch. Was there any specific reason you were suspicious of him?

Past experiences have tought me that I should use my brain when trying to determin scum. He was giving me scummy vibes so I investigated him. also at M-m 2/5 is still a higher percentage then what statstics would expect in a standred mafia set-up.

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Chamber is currently my #1 suspect. I don't think anyone would investigate someone who didn't act real scummy. Very suspicious.

Vote: Chamber

I did find him scummy, I just didn’t use logic when deducing this. It is also very stupid to be going after my lynch at this point. Also I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you find someone scummy when they are town, its because you are faulty at detecting scum, not because they acted ‘scummy’.

@ twomz, I have now hit 1, yes 1 dead player, that’s not exactly a pattern is it?

I’m extremely suspect of everyone putting pressure on me when you have only strange suspicions and absolutely no facts.

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And that's a reason?

certanly is

vote: viper

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igota75, and I think the case against him is that BJ voted for him after both of them voted Chamber. Or something.

guy, if my brain wasn't wrong so often, I'd so be voting you instead.

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Does that look like a sufficient case against me? No evidence?

Its sufficient.

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So, no evidence is a sufficient case.

I didnt agree that there was no evidence.

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I think I kill sometimes and protect other times. That seems like it.

Should I just not use my night action from now on? (if I live?)

You wont so it doesnt matter.

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Well, I claimed, yet you still think I'm scum. What's the point of claiming if you get lynched anyway?

I never asked you to claim. we should really finish lynching you.

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he should only claim when you ask?
God thats a horrid horrid statement.

no, I'm saying I didnt expect a claim to save him and would pretty much be willing to lynch him right now regardles of what he claimed.

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True... we can't just assume that he's town just because he's an ineffective doc.

Your ass must hurt, with all the fence sitting you do that is.

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I know why peopel do it but its pointless. The fact that you don't unvote says enough about where you stand.

Let's just lurker lynch. Everyone vote vaughn.

I dont really think much of vaughn either way, and Id say its scummy to lurker lynch when we have someone much better to lynch (viper) but vaughn is vaughn, so Id be willing to lynch him.

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vote Pooky

wouldn't mind lynching chamber either, I find it hard to believe neither side recruited him, as early as he came out.

Thats what they want you to think!!

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I have no intention of revealing my result yet.

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vote: chamber

that is not helpful.

If my result was currently relevent I'd reveal it. I know my result, you dont. Right now it is of almost no help to the town.

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vote: chamber

to follow up on my suspicions in previous days.

Thats all you have, suspicioins. This late in the game you should be able to pull mroe on me then that.

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Why do you want chamber's result so badly?

Well, if I trusted him, I wouldn't mind letting him wait and letting him reveal his results when he wanted to.

However, because there seems to be chance that chamber is now scum, then letting him wait and only reveal results when he choses could let him hide his identiry and manipulate the town without giving us useful information; he could say he got a guilty on someone we were going to lynch anyway to make himself look better, or he could wait until someone dies and then say he got an innocent on them so as to not give the town any real information, or any number of other thigns.

I fully intened, as with pass days, to reveal the result before the day ends. Also its not guilty, if it were Id say it were relevent.

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It also helps us not spin our wheels on someone who might be confirmed.

But I would enjoy seeing such a wagon before i come in to stop it.

Also the only reason you have to doubt me that I see, is that Id be a good cult recruit, but that’s complete wifom. Back it with behavioral evidence if you want to suggest I’m not town.

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Also the only reason you have to doubt me that I see, is that Id be a good cult recruit, but that’s complete wifom.

Well, I'm not sure if it really is a WIFOM issue. You were clearly a threat to the cult, as soon as you got Fritzer lynched that was made clear. If they couldn't kill you because of doc protection or whatever, and if they could recruit you, I would expect them to try, to neutralize the threat you posed to them if nothing else.

Now, that dosn't mean you have been recruited, but you must admit you'd be a very logical target.

but because im such an appealing target the town would of course lynch me assuming i was recruited so why recruit me (see wifom)

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Also the only reason you have to doubt me that I see, is that Id be a good cult recruit, but that’s complete wifom.

Well, I'm not sure if it really is a WIFOM issue. You were clearly a threat to the cult, as soon as you got Fritzer lynched that was made clear. If they couldn't kill you because of doc protection or whatever, and if they could recruit you, I would expect them to try, to neutralize the threat you posed to them if nothing else.

Now, that dosn't mean you have been recruited, but you must admit you'd be a very logical target.

but because im such an appealing target the town would of course lynch me assuming i was recruited so why recruit me (see wifom)

I'm tempted just to vote you for using "wifom" as a defense. That's weak, weak, weak. You can't dismiss arguments you don;t like by saying that.

I can and I just did. If you want to build a real case on me feel free.

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chamber with the deadline so close now and you having some votes, you probably need to go with the consensus here and reveal your results.

I'm a site full person you see, and at this point would rather take them to the grave.

@coron You're right, getting the town to lynch me is strictly better.

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@baby spiteful yes I suck at times

@vis You're lynching me before you force me to reveal anything.

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Yea. bu t I dont get why you dont want to spill?

As I said Im spiteful. If you are going to lynch me because of a THEORY then I'm not helping you, I'd rather lose.

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Back it with behavioral evidence if you want to suggest I’m not town

Well, I have some now.

You're lynching me before you force me to reveal anything.

That's not the way a real pro-town cop would, or at least should, ever act.

vote:chamber

I act how I act. The role I get is usually a very limited factor in how I act, and I never give in to pressure.

@bj lynching me to confirm who i've cleared is stupid. Of the two you know of, pooky could have been recrutied since then, so you're lynching me to clear 1 person, nice.

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off memory(though I'll need to check) it went something like fritz n1, sk guy whos name i forget n2, pooky n3, bacde n4, thok n5, BLANK n6

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Because of the deadline, and only because of the deadline, not because of fear of being lynched. vaughn is inoccent.

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Vote yosarian

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Vote yosarian

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mm is so scum, really.

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boo

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Erm... why were there millers and GFs if there weren't any cops?

I was a cop, he clearly didnt finish posting all the roles.