Mini 1193: Hacker's Panic mafia. (Game Over)

[Haschel Cedricson]

/confirm

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wait, we've got a hydra in the game? Not too pleased about that.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wait, we've got a hydra in the game? Not too pleased about that.

yes actually. I believe I made it very clear in the queue that this is a hydra. If you are very much apposed to it (after talking to bub) we could easily replace out.

Nah, I can suck it up and deal with it. To tell the truth, I didn't read any of the Queue, I just typed "/in for next". I have a bit of trouble reading hydras because of my scumhunting style, so don't be surprised if later in the game I do something like ask a question and demand that one specific head answer.

Anyhoo, let's get down to business.

Vote: Surye

. He knows why.

[Haschel Cedricson]

[Haschel Cedricson]

Surye, any thoughts on Hrezs?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Mod: I should be voting for Surye, not Beck.

*There's a long standing tradition that the first votecount has to be fixed once in order to have a fun game and I didn't want to break that. =P
- HP

[Haschel Cedricson]

Heads up: I am limited to dial-up Internet for the next 18 hours or so. I'll try to get caught up before then, but no promises.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Alright, this thread opened just as I'm about to step out for a wedding rehearsal, but I'll have plenty to say when I get back. You fuckers lynched an easily-confirmable powerrole way too quickly yesterday. and you all ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Right, I'm out til later this evening.

[Haschel Cedricson]

First off, Bob, what do you think of Celebloki's hammer?

Parama, why are you voting for Hrezs?

Vote: Parama

[Haschel Cedricson]

didn't like it but I thought his reaction to my FoS was townie so he's a null read for me.

What didn't you like about it?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Sorry, guys, found myself up in Portland with significantly less Internet access than I expected. Getting caught up now.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Alright, first off, everybody needs to stop saying that Beck was a VI, because he wasn't. Second, I 100% agree with Beck's initial stance on not letting the town direct the vig kill. Beck was the town's biggest target; from his perspective he had absolutely no reason to trust everybody else's scumdar. People arguing that Beck was being anti-town here are scummy.

In context, Beck's reversal after people made it clear that he would get lynched makes perfect sense. Powerroles can't do shit if they get lynched before they can use their power. It occasionally behooves the vanilla townie to accept their lynch as an inevitability, but rarely the powerrole. People who are claiming to not understand that are scummy.

I did not like Celebloki's hammer at all, for obvious reasons. I don't care for Bob's response to my question about the hammer, though. I expected I would get an opinion about how quickly the hammer came, especially since several people like myself, Hrezs, and deselby hadn't adequately discussed the Beckwagon. Instead bob repeated an earlier feeling he had about the comment Celebloki made prior to hammering. I acknowledge that with the way I phrased the question bobsnox technically did not dodge my question, but I find it odd that he had no opinion on the speed of the hammer either way.

don_johnson is obvtown and should not be lynched today.

The case on deselby is incredibly weak, and deselby is acting appropriately. This, in turn, makes bob's continued pushing of deselby bizarre.

Bob has posited a scumteam with CooLskins and deselby. Parama has posited a scumteam with CooLskins and Hrezs. Each of them is voting for the non-CooLskins partner. This strikes me as odd; assuming each of them is town, they should think that they have an opportunity to convince another player to lynch one of their scumreads, and a CooLskins wagon should start. I'm sensing a scumteam with Parama and bob that is trying to probe the town's opinion before making a move.

I'm going to

Unvote, Vote: bobsnox

based on my feelings after the reread, but Parama is a close second.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Old argument is old. Dude said fuck you guys if you think I'm letting you direct my kill. That's blatantly anti-town.

"Hmm, the town is performing so poorly that either their scumdar is horrible or the scum are managing to lead the town. I'm sure their choice of night target will be an excellent one!"

Beck had every reason to tell you guys to fuck yourselves; he knew 100% that he couldn't trust the groups' judgment. I would have either done the same thing, or maybe said "I will kill (SPECIFIC PLAYER) tonight.

[Haschel Cedricson]

That only works in hindsight knowing he was the OSV.

HE knew he was the OSV, and he acted accordingly.

[Haschel Cedricson]

That was helpful

WE thought he was SCUM and acted accordingly. He was only going to be alive for one night after he claimed and we gave him an appropriate manner in which to use his shot. That was his only option as far as I was concerned. He could have chosen a better way to convince us otherwise but he reacted with craptastic anti-town rage and paid for it. Now you're trying to blame the rest of us for not believing Beck's claim after his retarded reaction? Good old hindsight bias and finger pointing.

I'm blaming Parama for not considering the claim at all and the rest of you for thinking his reaction was retarded. You yourself pointed out his claim was testable; there is literally no reason Beck should have been lynched as quickly as he was.

I'm reviewing everyone's ISO to see what I've missed. Would you guys look over Zodiark's ISO and tell me what you see in 181 and 242? There is something very inconsistent that I completely missed before ISOing.

I see it and wholeheartedly endorse this avenue of query. Explain yourself, Zodiark.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I'm down for an Hrez wagon.

VOTE: Hrezs

Why?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Heads up: Tomorrow I have to pick my in-laws up at the airport, and will then be driving down to California, so don't expect me to post until Sunday.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Prod received, but I do not have time to stay on the Internet long enough to reread.

I will be travelling back to Oregon tomorrow, so I will post tomorrow night.