Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Katsuki]

1911, 1912. Tell me if you have as much trouble reading post numbers as you do reading the game.

Reading your posts, it feels like you're not bothering to read mine at all.

[Magister Ludi]

Flameaxe, how could Seraphim possibly know Yosarian was a targeting power role if its now been confirmed that when I jailkept Yosarian I roleblocked anyone actioning on Yosarian.

Plus your reads have changed from 'torn' to 'probably town' with no in between.

[Flameaxe]

1911, 1912. Tell me if you have as much trouble reading post numbers as you do reading the game.

Reading your posts, it feels like you're not bothering to read mine at all.

This is a helpful post.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, how could Seraphim possibly know Yosarian was a targeting power role if its now been confirmed that when I jailkept Yosarian I roleblocked anyone actioning on Yosarian.

Plus your reads have changed from 'torn' to 'probably town' with no in between.

What I'm saying is that he never said he did know Yos was a targeting power. He asked for a target but never claimed anything of his own.

I already addressed the torn to probably town argument...

[Flameaxe]

1911, 1912. Tell me if you have as much trouble reading post numbers as you do reading the game.

Reading your posts, it feels like you're not bothering to read mine at all.

This is a helpful post.

Pardon the triple post, but...This essentially means "I have no idea what you're on about, HALP."

[springlullaby]

Comment on Kinetic posts. Don't let scum disperse your focus. I personally think that another scumgroup is possible since I think that the only way to balance any cult game is to make them compete with night killing elements.

But

everyone, other scum group included if they exist, should get their priorities right: the focus should be to take down the cult one by one. That means taking out Kinetic first since he is down one member already. Personally, I'm totally OK with giving any other scum a free ride if they participate to this common goal.

Anyway, don't let scum manipulate you with more paranoia than necessary. Just look at Kinetic's last posts to give yourself a morale boost, the confirmed scum is squirming like fuck, desperation is written all over there, how cool is that. I must say watching him squirm is making the little saddist in me squee

BTW, I'm totally convinced Porochaz was Kinetic's recruit, look back at Kinetic post during the Porochaz wagon, it's written 'fuck my recruit is going down in flame' all over.

Also, if further explanation as to why I have been pestering Kinetic and sucking up to ABR is needed, I can provide if you can't make it out. But right now, I don't think it's necessary.

Also, I'd like to know why ABR think I'm kinetic's recruit too
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Now I think Kat looks bad, her trying to depict DGB as Kinetic's recruit is stretching, but I think someone said that they thought Kat wasn't scum so I have to reread that.

I also don't like tanarin, he has been making filler posts since day one.

@Seraphim, more explanation here please. Your story isn't adding up right now.

@Pop, could your answer my question to you please.

@DGB, what do you think of Seraphim?

I'll make a vote when people have replied, and I have reread the thread.

[Yosarian2]

Flameaxe, how could Seraphim possibly know Yosarian was a targeting power role if its now been confirmed that when I jailkept Yosarian I roleblocked anyone actioning on Yosarian.

Plus your reads have changed from 'torn' to 'probably town' with no in between.

What I'm saying is that he never said he did know Yos was a targeting power. He asked for a target but never claimed anything of his own.

Do you think it's ok to demand to know who someone targeted last night if you don't have any role information?

The question implies information that he now claims he didn't have. If you want to split hairs, you can say he "wasn't lying", but he was certainly being dishonest.

[Zdenek]

I'll be back to my normal level of activity tomorrow. Sorry for the lack of posting, but the Internet where I've been is slow when it's working and down regularly.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB, what do you think of Seraphim?

Katsuki is scum.

[Cobblerfone]

Also, if further explanation as to why I have been pestering Kinetic and sucking up to ABR is needed, I can provide if you can't make it out. But right now, I don't think it's necessary.

Is it because you're one of their recruits?

[bvoigt]

Cobbler wagon has slim to no chance of coming to fruition today, so how about this

bv, flame- If I dayvig cobbler and he flips as town aligned, and the day doesn't end right there, who would you think is scum?

xvart: The points I made here still apply.

Katsuki: He's pushing a pretty lousy case on DGB; I'm pretty sure she is town. Actually:

UNVOTE: Cobblerfone
VOTE: Katsuki

[populartajo]

Posting from phone, big post tonight.

[Herodotus]

I believe ML's role claim, and do not have any information . Weather that says anything about his alignment or not is another question.

Serephim, if you got a "no result" from me on night 1, then why did demand to know what I was doing? That just forced me to claim information for no good reason.

I agree with this post.
But ooba's defense gives me pause. ooba, do you acknowledge how odd it appears that Seraphim requested for Yos2 to claim his target, and semi-stated that he had information about Yos2, but then said he was roleblocked? And you are saying that you know enough about Seraphim's role that this apparent contradiction is not, in fact, a contradiction?

Porochaz was without a doubt Kinetic's recruit. Meaning that our priority should be to take out Kinetic's faction, as such I'm personally totally okay with giving suspected ABR recruits a free ride for the moment,

unless

Kinetic or his recruits are

especially

helpful and give the town something really worthwhile.

Also, if further explanation as to why I have been pestering Kinetic and sucking up to ABR is needed, I can provide if you can't make it out. But right now, I don't think it's necessary.

You're an Albert recruit, then, and not a kinetic recruit?
If so, we can work out a deal. Otherwise, be prepared to join your buddy in federal custody.

kinetic is funny. The player with the Hope avatar is trying to demoralize. There is no non-cult scum. In fact, I'd sooner believe that there is only one cult, and Albert and kinetic are working together -- though Mr. Flay did mention the game was double-cult.

[Battousai]

Bv and flame... They haven't done anything that has made me think they are town, but they aren't scummy enough to warrant voting them over Katsuki/Seraphim. As I said, that last part was pointed.

Seraphim- Yos declines giving his location, and most of the town is thinking you are lying, backtracking, or hurt town with your claim. I believe you should claim first as Yos is more likely town than you, as seems the consensus of the town. And since you have posted elsewhere (including multiple games) since he told you no, I'm more inclined to believe you are trying to ride out the backfall by hiding right now.




Looking at last night, there seems to be 2 different killing roles due to different killing flavor. One person has a gun and killed thAd while the other killed Andrius and Inhim melee style. I think there might be a 3rd party group who killed thAd as gun doesn't seem vig, more SK/mafia. Though poro was obv recruit and not mafia.

[Seraphim]

No, that's not true at all. I've been trying to mod my game, thank you very much.

I tracked Magister Ludi last night and only received a location. I am willing to claim this location if people want to. Yes, I am a tracker but I think something is funky with my role. For example, my night 1 PM was probably no result but the flavor heavily hinted that I was roleblocked but that I had received partial information. However, I do not think this is the case: I think the problem is on my end or I receive bad results. I did not get a target, only a location from Magister Ludi's travels.

I don't know if the other junkie(ooba, right?) has had similar problems if he has a PR.

[ooba]

No, that's not true at all. I've been trying to mod my game, thank you very much.

I tracked Magister Ludi last night and only received a location. I am willing to claim this location if people want to. Yes, I am a tracker but I think something is funky with my role. For example, my night 1 PM was probably no result but the flavor heavily hinted that I was roleblocked but that I had received partial information. However, I do not think this is the case: I think the problem is on my end or I receive bad results. I did not get a target, only a location from Magister Ludi's travels.

I don't know if the other junkie(ooba, right?) has had similar problems if he has a PR.

That *definitely* was not what I was expecting.

So N1, you're claiming to have tracked Yos - yes?. Can you paraphrase the flavor you got?

[Nobody Special]

@DGB, what do you think of Seraphim?

Katsuki is scum.

Whenever you feel like actually BEING HELPFUL, please do let us know.

Thanks, ever so.

[Battousai]

1) So those two other games you posted in are games you are modding?
2) below
3) Yes, lets out another PR in ooba...

Seraphim wants Yos to claim his target in 1321
ML first mentions Yos in 1322
Sera claims he targeted Yos in 1570
Sera claims he received no result in 1796
Claims he tracked ML and received a location in 1939

But 1939 contradicts 1570 where Seraphim says he targeted Yos

A. Targeted Yos last night and
B. Found out information

I can confirm A and mostly confirm B. There is the off-chance I was roleblocked but I don't think I was.

So, Seraphim is lying scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seraphim

[Battousai]

Review edit: Got nights mixed up

UNVOTE:

for now.

[ooba]

1570 is about N1
The first two lines in 1939 is about N2

[Yosarian2]

No, that's not true at all. I've been trying to mod my game, thank you very much.

I tracked Magister Ludi last night and only received a location. I am willing to claim this location if people want to. Yes, I am a tracker but I think something is funky with my role. For example, my night 1 PM was probably no result but the flavor heavily hinted that I was roleblocked but that I had received partial information. However, I do not think this is the case: I think the problem is on my end or I receive bad results. I did not get a target, only a location from Magister Ludi's travels.

I don't know if the other junkie(ooba, right?) has had similar problems if he has a PR.

Interesting.

Mm. The problem is is that if I claim location first, and then you say that ML either was or wasn't in that place, then we don't have any reason to believe you. I already think you're likely to be scum, so even if you do claim information that implies ML was lying, I won't trust you with it.

I was trying to think if there is a way we can simulclaim, but with this rule:

No strong cryptography or steganography in this game thread. Questions about what qualifies should be directed to me by PM.

I'm thinking probably not.

I think, at this point, you should probably claim where you saw ML go first. If that happens to be where I am, then I can confirm at least part of both your and ML claims at once (although, of course, it confirms neither of your alignments.)

[ooba]

Mm. The problem is is that if I claim location first, and then you say that ML either was or wasn't in that place, then we don't have any reason to believe you. I already think you're likely to be scum, so even if you do claim information that implies ML was lying, I won't trust you with it.

So if I have it right - two things to clear up:
- What happened N1 - Need sera to claim the flavor
- N2: Checking if ML is telling the truth about JKing you via Sera.
-- If Sera claims your base location correctly, ML is telling the truth
-- If Sera claims something other than your base location, then either Sera is lying or ML is lying

So Sera needs to claim flavor for N1 and the location result for N2 ..

[Magister Ludi]

I know/was told where Yosarian was last night as well.

[DrippingGoofball]

Whenever you feel like actually BEING HELPFUL, please do let us know.

Have you bothered?

There

is

a case.

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[DrippingGoofball]

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