Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Mr. Flay]

Third Vote Count of Day Three:

Katsuki - 4 (DrippingGoofball, bvoigt, Nobody Special, Battousai)
Seraphim - 3 (Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, Yosarian2)
DrippingGoofball - 3 (populartajo, Katsuki, Tanarin)
Cobblerfone - 1 (Flameaxe)
Tanarin - 1 (ooba)
populartajo - 1 (Herodotus)
springlullaby - 1 (Cobblerfone)
bunnylover - 1 (Seraphim)

Not Voting: Bunnylover, Fritzler, springlullaby, xvart, Zdenek

With 20 voters present, it will take 11 votes to lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote; Vote: Katsuki

[springlullaby]

It's not House. Springlullaby knows who it is.

Yes, it's a sexy bastard c:
ABR, why do you think I am Kinetic's recruit?

[DrippingGoofball]

Was that Metrotropolis or whatever with Inner IC and stuff like that?

Yep. I self-voted in a setup where votes were permanent.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DGB, that setup was a broken piece of shut anyway.

Anyway, Katsuki is being weird...

And DGB is town~

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: tanarin

[Cobblerfone]

@Cobbler, I expect an answer from you too.

What else could you've been hinting at?

Anyone else notice the drastic change in LLD's play since day one?

Yes. On Day Two actually.

Anyway, Katsuki is being weird...

GEE. What changed from yesterday?!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've been on vacation~

I just got prodded :3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, and Cobbler is still scum. Even if you guys won't lynch him >.>

[DrippingGoofball]

Anyone else notice the drastic change in LLD's play since day one?

This is good stuff. ^^^

DGB's argument against Katsuki is that she seems to not be paying attention to anything and wants her lynched as a Kinetic recruit. I don't have very strong feelings about this. I'll have to look harder at Katsuki.

The "not paying attention" isn't the main case, it

supports

the main case.

Kinetic tried to frame me and failed.

Next up, Porochaz tunneled on me and nothing else. He was Kinetic's recruit. By tunneling on me, he gave away that the Kinetic cult is after me. They really have a bee in their bonnet about ME. Which means that there is definitely ONE (and much less probably TWO) player today that is a Kinetic recruit carrying on with the Kinetic-cult plan that I need to be lynched at all cost.

Katsuki and tajo are the two possible candidates for this. The fact that Katsuki isn't paying attention to anything at all, except what I believe is following Kinetic's orders, strongly point to Katsuki being culted. Just like he would if he'd be recruited by what he might perceive to be a star player.

"Oh yes Mr. Kinetic, Sir, yes, I will give a DGB lynch my all, at your service Sir."

Katsuki didn't have a problem with me all of Day 1.

Then on June 24:

HOLY HELL
THOSE DGB/CR INTERACTIONS ARE TERRIBAD.
WE HAVE CULT HERE FOLKS.

VOTE: DGB

That was late in the day that Kinetic tried to frame me (day 2). Kinetic tried to frame me right off the bat at daybreak, on June 18.

Tajo.

Tajo had me firmly as town on June 5. But after Kinetic tried to frame me, tajo REACTS to Kinetic's post (as evidenced by the sadface emoticon):

VOTE: DGB

Then minutes later, he distances himself from Kinetic.

FTR, MY REASON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KINETIC

SECRET SCUMTELL FROM DGB

TIMELINE

Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:25 am FLAY OPEND THREAD for Day 2.
Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:56 am TAJO votes Yosarian.
Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:53 pm Porochaz's first post, and vote of the day.
Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:05 pm Kinetic starts to frame me with lies.
Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:09 am Ludi votes me "(

plus whatever the heck Kinetic is talking about, but don't factor that into anything

)".

ThaD, Tanarin, Yosarin, bvoigt, SL, weren't Kinetic cultists on Day 2.

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What are the chances that Kinetic had two recruits (Porochaz + X) and failed to recruit me by Day 2?

[DrippingGoofball]

This is an important question. I don't want it lost in the big post above.

What are the chances that Kinetic had two recruits (Porochaz + X) and failed to recruit me by Day 2?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, considering that it's almost 90% certain that someone tried to cult recruit Andrius N1 and FAILED, it's not likely.

[Cobblerfone]

@DGB: But why would they try to recruit you when you asked for anti-recruitment protection?

@LadyLambdadelta:

Anyway, Katsuki is being weird...

GEE. What changed from yesterday?!

Well, considering that it's almost 90% certain that someone tried to cult recruit Andrius N1 and FAILED, it's not likely.

Refresh my memory. When was this brought up? How do you know someone tried to recruit Andrius?

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: But why would they try to recruit you when you asked for anti-recruitment protection?

I dunno. They didn't believe in anti-recruiters? Maybe there is another reason? I have no idea why they're digging their heels that I'm an ABR recruit. No idea. Could be anything. I was thinking they tried to recruit me and failed, which is possible if they didn't believe in the existence of anti-recruitment protection, maybe they're doing it for the WIFOM, maybe for a distraction. I doubt it's a distraction, because after I flip town filthy whore, and

not cult

, Kinetic's credibility will be 100% shot for the rest of the game, and he knows that. He has to truly believe that I'm ABR's recruit, but he's not saying why, instead, he makes up rubbish. That's why I don't mind dying (though I'm clearly frustrated), my death will be the end of Kinetic.

[DrippingGoofball]

Well, considering that it's almost 90% certain that someone tried to cult recruit Andrius N1 and FAILED, it's not likely.

If that's true, could be ABR. ABR is going for quality recruits, Kinetic is scraping the bottom of the barrel? Maybe players have a choice to die as town, or join the cult? Andrius would die as town.

[Magister Ludi]

@ML, why did you target Yosarian last night, when your scumlist of yesterday did not include him?

I protected him night one, and did so again night two because I hoped my protections prevent recruitment and didn't want him to be recruited. I didn't think he was scum, just the opposite, I thought he was town.

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I still don't see how DGB and Seraphim aren't getting more votes here. Nonsence questions like this prove to me she is recruited

What are the chances that Kinetic had two recruits (Porochaz + X) and failed to recruit me by Day 2?

For one thing, why would they fail to recruit you? You've denied you are unrecruitable (or if you have thats incredibly anti-town because your play day one was to call for the cult doctors to protect you) so I don't understand why you think they would have failed to recruit you. And I'm not even sure how you got to your numbers.

If night zero for Kinetic was X/poro
Day one
and night one was the other one of x/poro
Day Two

Where was the failed chance they had to recruit you?

There was none. This question makes no sense, and the fact you're trying to use it to disprove anything at all is hilarious and quite anti-town I find.

The most logical explanation is that you are in fact recruited by Albert B. Rampage, and you're cult.

[DrippingGoofball]

Where was the failed chance they had to recruit you?

That's exactly what I've been trying to say in my posts, on this very page. I put down my scum hunting calculations, and that's when I realized that if Kinetic tried to recruit me and failed, then Poro might have been his only recruit, unless they can recruit on N0 and have a limited number of possible recruits? I don't know. I also said, I don't know anymore why Kinetic thinks I'm ABR's recruit, it may or may not be a failed recruitment attempt. If it did come from failed recruitment, then there is some weirdness in the recruitment mechanism.

[Kinetic]

Where was the failed chance they had to recruit you?

That's exactly what I've been trying to say in my posts, on this very page. I put down my scum hunting calculations, and that's when I realized that if Kinetic tried to recruit me and failed, then Poro might have been his only recruit, unless they can recruit on N0 and have a limited number of possible recruits? I don't know. I also said, I don't know anymore why Kinetic thinks I'm ABR's recruit, it may or may not be a failed recruitment attempt. If it did come from failed recruitment, then there is some weirdness in the recruitment mechanism.

Or Poro wasn't my recruit (as I've been saying all along), and he was Albert's recruit, and you're scum with him and are starting to see why my case is flawless?

Let me put it simply: There is a possibility of up to 3 recruits for each faction, Night 0, Night 1, and Night 2.

Poro was a recruit. At the very least we can agree on that, right?

That means, at most, one of the groups has only 2 members, assuming everything went hunky dory.

It is possible that there could be a mis-recruit for a number of reasons.

I claim that Poro was not my recruit, and further, that I have PROOF (that you don't believe) that DGB is Albert's recruit.

Thus, the reason I'm HAMMERING this point home, and not backing off it, is because I TRULY BELIEVE that DGB is Albert's LAST RECRUIT and that he will lose the game if she dies. I don't frankly CARE what I give away to get her lynched. If I am right, which I'm fairly sure that I am, then I can pretty much leave the game and let my recruits win it. There might be another faction, but once Albert is gone there is little that I can do to effect the game at all.

Frankly, after DGB is lynched, unless Albert miraculously has another recruit (which is possible) I'm pretty much useless. If I'm wrong, you won't listen to me. If I'm right, but Albert is gone, you have no reason to listen to me.

But I am THAT DAMN SURE she is scumscumscumscumscum that I'm OK with that.

LYNCH HER!

[bvoigt]

Where was the failed chance they had to recruit you?

That's exactly what I've been trying to say in my posts, on this very page. I put down my scum hunting calculations, and that's when I realized that if Kinetic tried to recruit me and failed, then Poro might have been his only recruit, unless they can recruit on N0 and have a limited number of possible recruits? I don't know. I also said, I don't know anymore why Kinetic thinks I'm ABR's recruit, it may or may not be a failed recruitment attempt. If it did come from failed recruitment, then there is some weirdness in the recruitment mechanism.

This reads as an uninformed townie to me. Not a cultist pretending to scumhunt.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What is your proof, Kinetic...?

[Kinetic]

Welcome back Albert, just in time to protect your recruit too! Iso me, you'll see it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's your word vs. the word of DGB, and you're confirmed scum. Guess who will win?

[DrippingGoofball]

If there was N0 recruiting, then Katsuki or tajo is still scum.

I can't decide which, though.

Tajo's pretty contaminated upon re-reading.

Can I have opinions from the rest of you, regarding tajo vs. Katsuki?

I can't see the forest from the trees. One of these two is scum. Maybe even both.

[Kinetic]

It's your word vs. the word of DGB, and you're confirmed scum. Guess who will win?

You?

[Bunnylover]

If there was N0 recruiting, then Katsuki or tajo is still scum.

I can't decide which, though.

Tajo's pretty contaminated upon re-reading.

Can I have opinions from the rest of you, regarding tajo vs. Katsuki?

I can't see the forest from the trees. One of these two is scum. Maybe even both.

Bah.
I'm starting to rethink my town read on Katsuki.
But Tajo been tunneling you pretty hard.
I would say Tajo.

@Kinetic: Each recuiter should have a possibly 3 recruits (N0, N1, N2). We eliminated one recruit putting one of you at 2-3 possibility. Where is the logic in listening to you (who is confirmed scum) when the possiblity of you just trying to get a mislynch to happen so we end up in a situation where (town) can't win?
Even if DGB is ABR recuit, don't think so, lynching her would leave ABR with 1 recruit and therefore he's still alive.
Now the reason you want DGB to be lynch is because if she flips ABR recruit, THEN YOUR VICTORY IS CONFIRMED AGAINST HIM, assuming Poro was ABR recruit. You no longer have to worry about ABR as he will be down 2 recruits from you. You can even afford to lose one recruit. Now all you have to worry about is Town, while town is still worrying about ABR and yourself.
Now, unless you want to reveal how your cult recruiting work and explain to us how ABR will be gone forever if we lynch DGB, then I suggest you stop posting.