Mini 1198 - Marketplace Mafia - Game Over
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malpascp Mafia Scum
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Breaking News
Midnight's Sorrow, Ghostlin have been prodded-
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Seacore Mafia Scum
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I do not think Newman's bidding is scummy.
I think it's dumb.
From now on, EVERYBODY checks the thread before they start throwing bids down. We need to be as organised as we can. Newman, your lack of checking has potentially cost the town $90. That's one person's entire pay from last night.
Nobody gets a free ride on that from here on in. Bidding without checking is from now on a scum claim.
Okay, so now that that's out of the way, I think Newman may be scum
Newman bid and won oracle yesterday. That is $20 +1 for bidding.
Newman made two claims today one of which was $189 +2 for bidding
So that is $222.
I'm going to go with the fact that Entrepreneurs start with 100 and then got another 90 last night. Where is your $32 coming from Newman?-
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HellloooNewman Goon
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Seacore Mafia Scum
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You invested money and bid on Oracle?
Given that you paid 21 to bid on oracle you would have had 79 to invest, giving you a maximum investment return of an additional 39.
So how early in the day did you invest? Before you bid on oracle? After? How did you know 20 was going to be enough to win oracle? Investing 64 of your left over 79 doesn't give you much room there.-
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hiphop Mafia Scum
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vote HellloooNewman
I would like a list of where all your money came from, being that we all know you have $189.
And yes, I still have the nk. Though I never expected to pay this much for it.ShowTown - 8/12
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Ghostlin Mafia Scum
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Acutally, I just read something I need to share immediately. I won the Cop ability last night and investigated Seacore last night and got the fact he was town. I wanted to make sure that the setup was in good hands, and it seems that it is. Another possiblity, Seacore: maybe more than two scum factions exist?
Going to pop for now, because I'm praying that I won't get disconnected within 15 of this post."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer-
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Seacore Mafia Scum
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Woohoo! Confirm town!
I won't be going for any abilities today, since I don't want an even larger target on my back and then to lose us abilities.
Two scum factions is definitely a possibility.
In a mini, the difference between 1 mafia team and 1 SK, and 2 small mafia teams is almost unimportant.
Of course it may just be that the win conditions are sufficiently different in wording that my question could never provide useful results... which would be a shame, but hey.
I'd really like some more info from Newman right now, but he's wandered off (to a scum QT?)-
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HellloooNewman Goon
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Good lord people, this is ridiculous.
- I bid $29 max on oracle.
- I won it @ $20.
- I bid on 2 other auctions, but did not beat the high bid (-$2)
- I invested $50.
- Day 2 started and I received $90 (wage + bonus)
- I then had $117
- I bid $116 on NK straightaway
- For a shirt time, I was high bidder
- 8 hours into Day 2, my CD matured and I received $75
- I was no longer high bidder
- I bid $190 on NK
- I was told I was not the high bidder
Now that everyone knows how much cash I have, are there any more questions?Irritating Jerry since 1991-
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Ethos Goon
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Sure, Newmans bid on NK was stupid and lazy however it's not scummy at all and the fact that he openely claimed that he attempted to bid on it and was constantly outbid is a massive town-tell furthermore his story of how he bid on it and spend his funds checks out competely. Remember when Hiphop stated he had it at $117, yeah that makes perfect sense considering Newmans CD investment and what it means is that mafia haven't bid on the item if the battle is just between Hiphop and Newman.
Ghostlin, I don't understand the check on Seacore, his hammer and actions yesterday made him incredibly obvious town so if you could elaborate into your reasoning for doing so apart from him holding setup information I would appreciate it. With that said the cop claim really really helps as it moves you from our possible scumlist to town. Both slaxx and myself believe we've PoE'ed the mafia and will have our reads up very soon, for now we'll start by voting one of the mafia.
Vote: IceyGuyThe price of freedom is eternal vigilance.-
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Midnight's Sorrow Mafia Scum
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And I say he is a liar, one way or another. He just said he bid $190, yet the auction is currently at $190. If he had bid $190, it should be at $191, for I had bid more than $190.ShowTown - 8/12
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hiphop Mafia Scum
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I added his money up, it came to 191. He bids 190, it should be 191. 1 dollar more then the second highest bidder, unless there is a tie, which there isn't. Would you like me to quote the rules?ShowTown - 8/12
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Magua wrote:the current bid will always be $1 more than the second highest bid,or, to put it another way, if you are winning the auction, you are always bidding the minimum amount required to do so. If another player bids higher than the current bid, but less than or equal to your maximum bid, you will remain the highest bidder and the current bid will be raised appropriately. [/*]
- In the event of tied maximum bids, the earlier bidder gets priority. The first PM from each player within the first 24 hours of a Day are given equal priority; in this case, random.org will provide a tiebreaker.
ShowTown - 8/12
Scum - 4/2
Never forget
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I colored hiphop kind of magenta, because he deserves a color of his own.~Gila-
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Ethos Goon
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Starting cash = $100.
Win of bid on oracle = $20 + $1 transaction fee. Remaining funds = $79.
Penalty for not having highest bid = $2. Remaining funds = $77.
Investment = $50. Remaining funds = $27.
Day two started and wage recievement = $90. Remaining funds = $117.
Bid on nightkill = $116 + $1 penatly fee. Remaning funds = $116
Recievement of investment = $75. Remaining funds = $191
Bid on nightkill = $190 + $1 fee.
It all adds up.The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.-
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HellloooNewman wrote:I bid a lesser amount, and was outbid. I then bid all that I had left available,, and was outbid.$189
HellloooNewman wrote:Good lord people, this is ridiculous.
- I bid $29 max on oracle.
- I won it @ $20.
- I bid on 2 other auctions, but did not beat the high bid (-$2)
- I invested $50.
- Day 2 started and I received $90 (wage + bonus)
- I then had $117
- I bid $116 on NK straightaway
- For a shirt time, I was high bidder
- 8 hours into Day 2, my CD matured and I received $75
- I was no longer high bidder
- I bidon NK$190
- I was told I was not the high bidder
Now that everyone knows how much cash I have, are there any more questions?
Newman has been inconsistent.
Let's look
He starts with $100
He bids $29 (+1 fee) on Oracle = $70 total
He bids on two more auctions unsuccessfully = $68
He deposits $50 = $18
He gets a refund of $9 when he wins Oracle = $27
He gets $90 during the night = 117
He bids $116 +1 fee) on NK = 0
That fails = $116
He gains his investment and proft +$75 = $191
He then, as he put it in his first statement "Bid all that he had left available"
Which should be $190 + $1 fee
But it wasn't, since then Hiphop would be winning at $191, not $190
Newman got the bid right in his first post, but realised he screwed up his fake maths and changed it to $190
Busted
Vote Newman-
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Ethos Goon
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I see what you're getting at but at the same time I fail to see Newman as mafia. I need to have a conversation with Slaxx asap, but the following are reasons I don't believe newman is mafia for:
1. I do not see mafia openely claiming that they're bidding nightkill in the thread.
2. I do not see mafia investing money in a CD to later announce that.
3. I do not see how his "I invested, bid my maximum and then when I recieved my investment back placed the rest of the funds on NK" is false in any way.
4. I do not see mafia aiming for oracle on day one while giving away multiple much stronger power roles.The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
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