TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:vezokpiraka wrote:I'm way more awesome than you.
A. Given you are vezok, no you aren't.
B. Your character cannot be possibly as cool as mine. Period.
Interesting.
Because I GOT THE COOLEST CHARACTER EVARR.
Mass name claim? I don't know how that can hurt.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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killerjester wrote:Vifam wrote:How does that make name claiming non-optimal play? If it's not the standard Good vs Bad Guy scenario, what is the problem?
Trying to guess out the PR's in the town. For instance, House M.D. (if used) would more likely than not be a doctor or some saving role. To fit the character.
That is complete bulshit.
Last game every single role was randomized. Spider man was a neighbourizer.
I suggest a mass name claim because it starts discussion because I like to be in character.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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Holy crap wtf is wrong with this game????
MoI seems like the only player who thinks before he posts.
We have jylly who got a lot of votes in a short period. Not scum.
We have marco who is incredibly scummy. He didn't vote in RVS because he doesn't want to upset anyone because he is scum.
As for Jyl defending me: Stop with the REDACTED shit.
Diddin and hoppster are also quite townie.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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If you think I am scum do you think I'll succumb to pressure?
Anyone who thought that why did you thought that?
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Classic: (Why are you voting me? This guy does the same thing but it's not me ) scum
@Pappms: I've been quicklynched in less than 24 hours before I posted.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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Zinger2099 wrote:
It is hardly ridiculous at all. Look at the facts: ZeL1nK claimed he would kill me Night 1 before I had said ANYTHING in this game what-so-ever. Therefor, the only motivation for him having said that MUST be something from a previous game, because there was nothing in this game as of yet to bring him to that decision.MagnaofIllusion wrote:Zinger wrote:ZeL1nk is clearly holding grudges across from a previous game. He really shouldn't do that, and it is definitely not helpful to the town if he carries on with that behavior.
That’s a pretty ridiculous premise … if anyone has reason to hold a grudge from Superhero Mafia it is me not Zel1nk who directly benefitted from your play.
I see no other explanation, and ZeL1nK has yet to offer up one.
Also,unvote.
Something doesn't sit right with you.
In the last game you tunnel visioned MoI like hell. In this game your doing nothing. Why?Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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Zinger2099 wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:marco1610 wrote:Jil hasn't been replaced yet, right?
MOD: no, I have been having problems with finding replacements in games lately.
*gasp* JT! YOU'RE ALLIVE?!
*snicker*
Do you have some kind of post restriction? Or are you some kind of troll that didn't get a vig and now is trolling by posting?Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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I know both zinger and meransiel post on day 1 and make cases.
Right now neither of them does that and just says they are bored. Something is afoot. I believe meran because even if he posts he doesn't post that much on day 1 , but zinger does.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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vollkan wrote:vezokpiraka wrote:unvote
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I know both zinger and meransiel post on day 1 and make cases.
Right now neither of them does that and just says they are bored. Something is afoot. I believe meran because even if he posts he doesn't post that much on day 1 , but zinger does.
You just contradicted yourself.
First you said meransiel does "post on day 1 and make cases". Then you say "even if he posts he doesn't post that much on day 1"
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ThAdmiral wrote:Junpei wrote:Oh yeah also ThAdmiral, just to respond to that one bit in your post, waiting for L-1 would have been dangerous. I knew that I was tracker and that there is no way this BW was going tot turn around just because I replaced in. People were going v/la and it was very close to a lynch.
I generally give replacements who are being heavily bandwagoned a bit of leeway. I'm not sure about everyone else though.
Zinger2099 wrote:@Junpei, it's Day 1. Gimme a break. I see nothing that isn't just people jumping to conclusions or circumstantial.
Day 1 cases are almost always a flop. All that really matters is that we keep people talking so there is something to look back at during the following days.
I used to be like you and think day 1 was basically useless. I know think it is the most important day in a mafia game (apart from lylo).
Junpei wrote:Zlinger what you're doing is 100% anti-town. We are wasting energy/posts on you and that is bad. I won't take role-excuses for an answer as it seems like a really cheap way to get out of jail free. Could someone please confirm that there is a likely mechanic that implies that what Zlinger is doing is smart? If there is then Zlinger is an idiot or mafia for softclaiming it. If not than Zlinger is mafia or we have an unlikely scenario.
This.
And to answer your question: no, there is no role that would require him to besomewhatsuspected. Him softclaiming is him being an idiot, and that applies if he's town or scum.
@ mod: can we get meransiel replaced for not playing to their win condition?
Pappums Leather Jacket wrote:Zinger townslipped. He's town.
I think I see what you are talking about, but I don't necessarily agree. I don't think the mod confirmed one way or the other.
Why meran? Zinger is doing the same thing.
I would gladly have him replaced.
On the other hand MoI come back here and solve this clusterfuck.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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vollkan wrote:ZeL1nK wrote:killer wrote:Dear God. Do people want to give more input than, "KJ is being silly, he should just believe Leon is town like the rest of us."?
killer, I personally don't care whether you agree with my read, but your case on Leon is stretching.
- Scum fabricate excuses to claim that they find someone suspicious.
- Scum uses manipulation and deceit to achieve their nefarious ends.
- Scum try to look suspicious of someone that is in no danger of being lynched so they are uninvolved with the lynch of a townie.
- Scum need to look like they are trying to catch scum.
Like yeah, these are valid points in general, but trying to apply them to Leon is stretching.
The main reason I think he's probably town is mostly to do with nuances in his posts that give me town vibes. He's also done nothing that really stands out and makes me think he's scum, so bonus points there, considering how many people are begging to be lynched right now.
I made my reasons for suspecting Leon fairly clear -I don't see how you could seriously think that town "vibes" (a word which really discredits you right there) can overcome that
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@ volkan: I know you've addressed this before in another game but how does your number system deal with lurkers? They wouldn't get points as they aren't saying anything.
Short answer: It doesn't.
Longer answer: I don't think lurking is a scumtell, so it isn't really a problem. In practice, of course, in an endgame or near-endgame scenario when the uncertainty around lurkers had become a serious and immediately pressing issue, I'd weigh up that uncertainty against scumminess. For example: somebody who had lurked all game probably would not get voted over somebody at 70+, but might well be voted over somebody at 55-60. I admit that I have no clear rules on this point, because, despite being an obvious theoretical problem, it rarely arises in practice, and it isn't the sort of thing that really can be dealt with mechanistically.
silver wrote:vollkan wrote:
@Silver: you still haven't explained why Pine is scum. Your "case" on him seems to just basically be that he is a lurker
*stares at vollkan angrily*
*again expresses general disdain towards Pine*
*suggests you move your vote to Pine*
*farts in your general direction*
vezokpiraka wrote:vollkan wrote:vezokpiraka wrote:unvote
vote zinger
I know both zinger and meransiel post on day 1 and make cases.
Right now neither of them does that and just says they are bored. Something is afoot. I believe meran because even if he posts he doesn't post that much on day 1 , but zinger does.
You just contradicted yourself.
First you said meransiel does "post on day 1 and make cases". Then you say "even if he posts he doesn't post that much on day 1"
I have no idea what I meant to say there.
In the case of somebody as "special" (but for mod rule 2, I would have useda different adjectiveseveral different adjectives ) as you, I'd normally buy this.
However, if you didn't mean that, then your post simply doesn't make sense. You anchor yourself to choosing either zinger or meran (problematic in and of itself) because, you say, they both post cases on D1. But then, you choose zinger over meran precisely because, you say, merandoesn'tpost much on D1.
zinger wrote:
Chevre's wall post strikes me as the kind of wall post a lurker scum would make after her scumbuddies prodded her and said "hey, you're lurking too much!"
Obvious question - How do you think it differs from the kind of post a lurker-town would make?
Leon wrote:
I considered his stalling scummy enough to raise the bar.
Do you have any meta evidence for you taking into account wagon size as being somehow proportionate to your suspicion? It's an unusual way to play
pinky wrote:
Cognitive dissonance from joking about jesters and then calling people stupid for talking about jesters. Probably caused by me (correctly) calling out his intent behind his first post (see I).
What's "I"?
I think I remember what the fuck I wanted to say.
Well I think both meran and zinger aren't doing anything, but I saw meran do nothing before, but sometimes he does stuff. On the other hand this is the first time zinger doesn't do a thing.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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WTF is with people and meran?
Chevre really has a problem. Meran did much better than you. The last 3 posts had you saying meran needs replacing. Wow and behold. You are actually doing more nothing than meran.
Third party lynch on day 1 is great. Especially a non claimed third party.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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Junpei wrote:Chevre wrote:Junpei wrote:Lynch all Liars is a bad thing to think.
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Can you explain this? It always seems in my experience that the majority of people believe this is a good idea.
Town lie. They have reason to lie at some times. For instance, a gambit (which is perfectly legitimate in some cases, Zingers not one of them) is a lie to the rest of town that may be performed by town. Also perhaps some wifom in other scenarios in which town isn't straight to town in order to fool mafia. It's a silly assumption that town never lies and that is bad.
pedit: David I'll reread it.
It's still important not to lie.
I've seen few good gambits. Most of them turned on themselves.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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@Volkan:
The comment to Rodion was because he asked me what happened if the player was scum.
At least on day 1 I consider the Experienced player to which I buddy town. If he is scum he's probably not scum hunting so the gain for me to buddy to them is because I don't get killed.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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Castle Bravo wrote:MagnaofIllusion wrote:Castle Bravo wrote:Huh? Are you saying they can recruit scum?
Neigbhorizors recruit players to a Neighborhood. No-one in the Neighborhood is alignment confirmed. Town and scum both are fully capable of having a Neighborizor role. I can link to tons of examples as necessary.
Oh well that's a stupid role then. They should both recruit someone in each other's neighborhood to prove they're not cult leaders. But cults always lose so who cares? Town can get a lot of silly bad roles.
Let's lynch rodion. He's scummy.
Cults always lose????
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Castle Bravo wrote:vezokpiraka wrote:This game doesn't make sense to me at all.
Who are we lynching today and why?
Cease voting for Zel1nk, vote for Rodion.
We are lynching him because his response to attacks is to divert attention onto other players, make stuff up, not even bother to think about what people are saying, and attempt to call them scummy for attacking him, in that order.
You are voting for him because you are town.
What you just said sounds like a newbie town. Are you sure he is the right lynch? Give me the quote you find scummiest of him.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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izakthegoomba wrote:Wow. The scummies should have a "biggest dumbass" award.
I have blacklisted Castle Bravo and his alt, GreyICE. People shouldn't forget the latter.
VOTE: drmyshottyizsik
There is nothing more to be said.
GI is the main. CB is the alt.
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In post 3043, izakthegoomba wrote:Vezok, you really shouldn't claim out of turn. A big point of popcorn claiming is that we can use interactions that occur during it to find scum.
NOBODY ELSE CLAIM UNLESS CALLED UPON BY A POPCORN CLAIMER.
Misteryo, Banshee are the only ones that didn't claim. What interactions do you get from it?Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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