Open 320- Tit for Tat: Game Over!

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Don't worry, I'm here now. Let the bold notes of jazz accuse the mafia as we work to unravel the mystery of this murder.
/coolentry

Anyway, let me be the first to bring us into the RVS.

VOTE: Jilyenne1991

Because I can.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Yeah, I see you magna. Also for some reason I thought you and Jily were in my last game but now I remember you were in a game with me 2 games ago (for me at least).

So yeah.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

vote: darkcoffeejazz

Because the godot theme is now playing in my mind

You know you love it.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

1) Depends on how early in the game it is and if it'll benefit the town at all.
2) Normally I prefer to have inactives lynched or killed, but with MafiaScum's replacement mechanics it really doesn't matter too much to me.
3) I dunno. Not posting at all?

[Darkcoffeejazz]

I don't see how it's scummy to ask questions. Even questions like those.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Jilyenne's latest argument is giving me intense Deja Vu.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Yes, Jazz, we get it...you were in a game with Jilyenne before. Perhaps you could expand on your comment...maybe, explain why it gives you Deja Vu for the rest of us who weren't IN that game...instead of appearing to buddy with her right off the bat by sharing a little inside chuckle?

My, someone's bitter for no reason. I thought that was my job.
As for sharing an inside chuckle, please. Don't ASSume so much.

...Well, I was going to explain later why I'm having Deja Vu, but fuck it.
Oh, and, we get it... you're a no-nonsense guy who takes the game of mafia too fucking seriously. So instead of starting shit with someone you barely know, how about loosening up a bit, eh?

[Darkcoffeejazz]

...Sigh. I am playing the game. Basically your first post came across as you being an asshole to me. "Yeah we get it" is pretty asshole-ish.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

...Well, I was going to explain later why I'm having Deja Vu, but fuck it.

And for the record, I don't care if you explain it or not...was simply asking because I was interested. The fact that you're not willing to share is telling, especially when anyone can just go READ the game in question and find out for themselves. It's like you're leveraging information you don't control, and I don't like it.

It's more like you were being an asshole, so why should I fucking give you what you want when you didn't even respect me enough to ask politely.
It has nothing to do with the game itself.

At any rate, don't take anything too personally.

I usually don't. Unless someone insults me first.

I'm a pretty playful guy...I'm just....trying to feel out the crowd I guess. Clearly you don't like to be messed with, and that's cool. We're about to find out how Jilyenne likes to be poked. I'm about as far from asshole as one can get...but I also don't like to be messed with.

I'm just playin the game, man. Just playin the game.

Eh, just leave me alone.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

EBWOP: I'm going to bed, btw. Also don't bother responding since I'm not going to answer you until such a time as I'm not pissed off at you. Which could be days. Both real time and game time.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

It's more like you were being an asshole, so why should I fucking give you what you want when you didn't even respect me enough to ask politely.
It has nothing to do with the game itself.

So you are saying your post at 27, where you intimate that you have seen Jily post similarly in 1110, isn’t an alignment indication?

Jily was Mafia in that game. Please explain the Déjà vu comment if it isn’t game related then.

You misunderstand. Viscera said his 'joke' in such a way as to appear an asshole to me. That's what I was referring to. Whether I found him to be an ass or not wouldn't be game related. Saying things like "yeah we get it" just scream "You're irritating me now shut the fuck up, idiot" to me.
And normally I don't get offended by every little thing. I just wasn't in a good mood to begin with last night, so I went to bed.

As a result of last night, I'm going to be ignoring Eyes there. At least for a few days. It's for the best.

As for the Deja Vu comment, I was indeed indicating that the last time I was in a game with her, she flipped Scum. So my gut was trying to decide if she's being the same way as that game or not.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

EBWOP: As for the 'ragequit' comment regarding the game Jily and I were in... that wasn't a result of the game or how it was going. It was all because of Hiraki and Katsuki both. I'd had enough so I replaced out, because it wasn't fun anymore. And what's the point in playing if you can't have fun?

I just want to make that abundantly clear.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Yes, call me 3. I'm sure that makes me feel better.

Also, Generic, yes. FOR ALL.
Now explain. Though I think the reason is obvious.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

@Viscera

– I’m going to second Stephan’s request that you don’t answer directly within quotes when responding to players. Obviously it is not intended by you as a means of deception but it borders on quote tampering which is pretty consistently scummy. Also it is possible that people could easily misconstrue things you type into the quote as the words of the player you are quoting.

Thirded.

Thanks for clarifying.

Do you think Viscera, as scum, would be as openly insulting and abrasive as he has been so far?

Not knowing the guy, I dunno. He knows of EpicMafia, and I can second his views that there are a lot of trolls there, as well as the reluctance to lynch unless they can afford a mislynch, or it is Lylo. This may also explain some of his abrasiveness.
However, being a bit of a jerk at times myself, I know for a fact that inappropriate behavior (such as insults, etc.) doesn't necessarily mean that the person is scum. Just like with anything that's said, you have to view it in the context it is spoken. Obviously, insulting everyone on your wagon when you're getting lynched could be a scum, but more than likely I've found it to be a raging townie.
So really, without knowing the person themselves, I'm not sure I can make a judgment call on that one.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

...Lady reminds me of Katsuki. Which is very unfortunate.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

As much as it pains me to say this, I think it's much too early for any sort of lynch. Especially a VE lynch, who for the most part seems to be the easiest lynch out of everyone here (as of the moment anyway).

Will I be sad if we lynch him anyway? No, not really. But I wouldn't be surprised if he flips town.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Also, I'm going to resent the Katsuki comparison. I don't flake out of games.

He/She/It didn't flake out of the game Jily and I were in last time together. They wanted a lynch on Hiraki so badly that they not only fake claimed Cop as a Vanilla Townie, but faked a guilty report on Hiraki as well, who ended up flipping as the Town Jailkeeper.

Basically they threw the game I was in. It was also due to the fact that they were rather abusive during the game that I replaced out.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

But you ARE coming across as highly aggressive to me.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Sigh.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Stefan, I'm not gonna lie.
Your posts give me a slight headache. Sorry.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Stefan, I'm not gonna lie.
Your posts give me a slight headache. Sorry.

Tell me, is that because you're actually trying to use your brain, however futile the effort may be?

It's actually the grammar and spelling issues, Katsuki, but I suppose that doesn't matter so much as who we're going to lynch, yes?

[Darkcoffeejazz]

I just realized that the mod is still counting my random vote on JILYENNE1991.

UNVOTE: Jilyenne/Lady Lambda Delta or whatever

Seriously, if a person replaces out, my vote should automatically count as, erm, not counted anymore. Seriously.

Also, I intend to hammer, so I suggest claiming, Viscera.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

I would really like to help you with that, Darkcoffee, but English is my second language and I had it at school unfortunatly a long time ago. I am trying to do my best.
If enough people have a problem with it, I can only offer to replace out. I don't want to do that, but I don't see a easy solution.
Darkcoffee what can I do to help?

Well it's not THAT bad. :/
As long as there's a reason for it I'm not too bothered by a few mistakes here and there.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

I just realized that the mod is still counting my random vote on JILYENNE1991.

UNVOTE: Jilyenne/Lady Lambda Delta or whatever

Seriously, if a person replaces out, my vote should automatically count as, erm, not counted anymore. Seriously.

Also, I intend to hammer, so I suggest claiming, Viscera.

I should also mention that if anyone EXCEPT myself hammers before a claim occurs, I will view them as 100% confirmed scum and will settle for nothing less than their death... if VE flips town anyway.
But even if VE flips town, I'll still be a bit suspicious.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

EBWOP: Even if VE flips scum*
I fail at keyboards sometimes.
*goes to play Sims 3*

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Nice double standard there. You expect to survive scrutiny if you hammer, but if anyone else does, they're confirmed scum in your book?

You forgot to read the part "before VE claims". If they hammer after VE claims it hardly matters.
Hooray for reading non-existent things into other people's posts.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

The point is, you emphasized the word "except." That implies that you specifically want to hammer. Any particular reason?

I've never hammered before on this site. Or any forum for that matter.
Sue me.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

EBWOP: Besides, someone has to state their intention to hammer at L-1 to get a claim out of the lynchee. By stating that I will hammer, I'm pre-empting any quickhammers scum may make if Viscera is indeed town.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Are you guys fucking serious? If VE flips town, you are ALL on my shit list. I will go through and ISO each of you because its guaranteed that scum is on this wagon. There is absolutely no need to put someone at L-1 and rolefish this early in the game.

For shame, all of you.

I'm not rolefishing. If he doesn't post by the end of today I'm hammering regardless.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

EBWOP: And obviously if VE flips town, there is scum on this wagon. There may still be scum on this wagon even if VE flips scum himself.

It's all WIFOM.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Ok, you're so overly willing to hammer, and yet after reading you in ISO, you have gave NO argument for why. You and VE have obviously had some back and forth aggressiveness, but you have not fully explained WHY you're voting him. Your hammer vote seems VERY opportunistic.

A lynch provides more information than no lynch at all. I am merely seeking information, nothing more.
And seeing as how VE lives in the United States, he's had plenty of time to post.

I'm voting you because you're acting VERY scummy.

Get used to it, Kiddo. This is me every game.

You've said that you're going to hammer regardless, so even if VE role claims, he's fucked.

This is incorrect. I suggest you actually read what I said, instead of making up a lie.

This behavior is VERY anti-town,

Such as misquoting another player, for instance?

and since you're leading this hammer movement, you get my vote.

Yes, vote for the man who's actually trying to get shit done. How very pro-town of you.

But I'm FoSing everyone else on this wagon, and if you haven't gave a good reason why you're voting VE, I WILL be calling you out shortly.

Hit me with your best shot, Susan.
And would you be so kind as to Stop? Because it's Hammer Time.
Yes, 6 PM is end of the day for me.

VOTE: VisceraEyes

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Now, whether I'm damned or not will be made public soon as the mod gets on.
Oh well. I'm resigned to any fate I may suffer Day 2.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

If you really are town, sorry Visc. But I wasn't about to settle for 2 or 3 weeks of getting nothing done, again.

Suffice it to say, your lynch will provide us more information, at the very least.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Wow, if you just lynched a townie, I URGE everyone to vote for you in day 2. You are probably the most anti-town player I've EVER encountered.

Douche.

If you are town at all, you will realize that his bandwagon formed rather quickly. You'd be calling whoever hammered him a douche, so instead of Appealing to Emotion, go take a break.

It's obvious you're taking this game 100% too seriously.

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Good luck just indiscriminately killing based on who pisses you off. I'm sure that strategy is going to win you a lot of games.

That's not why I hammered on you.
I gave you plenty of time to claim and respond.
You didn't, despite being not more than 1 or 2 hours in time difference to me.

And to be honest, you got yourself into this situation in the first place.
Your fault.