[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)

[kiwieagle]

/confirm

You would think that priests were some sort of doctor.

WRONGGGG

[kiwieagle]

I remember the last boss dropped a real nice shoulder, and this other boss had dogs.

Which one is whitemane?

[kiwieagle]

Why so much hate on RBT?

[kiwieagle]

VOTE: Fate

Its fun to see a Post Restricted Fate.
And I have never played with him, but still he has the most posts in MF

[kiwieagle]

MS*

[kiwieagle]

I just said its fun to see one.

Didnt say he had.

[kiwieagle]

seems like a ridiculously random comment to me unless you have inside information that we don't.

Lets just wait and see.

[kiwieagle]

I CAN CLAIM NAO.


IM A DWARF PRIEST WHICH IS JUST A LAME VT.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY ARE ROLEBLOCKING DOCTOR (This is not a breadcrumb) OR SOMETHING BUT THEY ARE NOT.

[kiwieagle]

I think Parama has a PostRestriction that has to do with RBT

[kiwieagle]

All the RBT-Hate is formatted in the same way!

[kiwieagle]

Reck. Ninjas or no ninjas?

/confirm

Also we're skipping RVS this game. I will explain once the game officially starts.

Wow Reck are you evil this time too?

Yeah playing as scum sucks. Always.

zzzzzzzzz

Why the flying slaxx do you think Fate has a post restriction?

Also DGB and farside still have more y'know.

seems like a ridiculously random comment to me unless you have inside information that we don't.

2nd post says Scarlet Saboteurs.

Reck: The vote steal in Deadmines is basically that same exact thing. Your point?

So nevermind. But I still find dayvig to be more protown then not. If RBT flips scum then Parama is 100% unquestionably confirmedtown. If not, oh well, back to basics

Again, you hammering Enigma in Deadmines

How the hell am I supposed to tell if I'm alliance or horde if I've never played the damn game?

Not claiming~

google'd it up, appears my race is alliance

inHim you're a slow mod you picked up that PM almost immediately and haven't done anything yet why

WORTH IT.

now please drop this fucking retarded theory

It was never meant to be taken seriously, but if you find it offensive : sure.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, despite real conversations going on about motivations, you choose to do noting but post a theory that

was never meant to be taken seriously

Really? Who are you trying to distract from? Fate, Reck or Val. I'm leaning Val given that it happened right after a surge of votes.

I think the Fate/Reck conversation is just noise that I'd expect from Fate/Other aggressive players. I'm not familiar with Reck, never played with him before.
I'm waiting to hear about his faction thing, but am content to wait until the last three claim. It's amusing me, when he posted his list of Alliance and horde I AGAIN read horde as scum and was about to type "What the hell is the case on me?" then I remembered again. I blame the stressful day, but hey, the interview is over, I hope I get to keep my job.

I'll read up again and post some thoughts on different players.

So my post was to distract people from Val?
Never thought about people thinking that from my post.
Hmm....
It makes sense, but too much WIFOM.

Also:
All the people in Scarlet Monastery are humans right?
So they are all alliance?

[kiwieagle]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

[kiwieagle]

Reck = sexy, understood.

Vote: Kiwieagle

, he also claimed VT with no pressure, do not like that, easy way to set up why he'll never get NK'd.

And if/when he flips scum, I'm coming after Val.

I think Parama has a PostRestriction that has to do with RBT

this gave you enough confidence for both my lynch and Vals?

--

and lets say im mafia, are you assuming theres a SK or Vig?
Because how else will I be NKed?


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Pedit: I think I already claimed Dwarf Priest?

[kiwieagle]

Also Also, what is the deal with all this talk about Post Restrictions?

Two unfounded comments about PRs, the first about Fate, the 2nd about Para. Please explain?

Neither were ment to say that they actually had.


And my above defence is:
Your reasoning is faulty, and your case is bad.
Make a better one.

[kiwieagle]

This is a good wagon. The role PM confusion thing is exactly the vibe I got from the question.

SO im confused whether the humans in Scarlet Monastery are accounted as alliance ingame?

That makes me seem a confused scum?

I had already claimed.
Im not asking about classes and races ffs.

[kiwieagle]

I dont buy the "lets misrep kiwi" attack.

[kiwieagle]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

I understand you're confusion Kiwi, we've been given role PMs that state our Race and Class. Making it clear that we're actual toons inside WoW.

You've been given a Role PM like this one:

Here you are implying im asking a question about class and race

Players

: xRECKONERx, smargaret, Enigma

Races

: Various

Class

: Defias Saboteur

Abilities

• Chaos in the Foundry
  – As long as three of you are alive, you may secretly move any player’s vote to the voted player of your choice one time each Day.
  
• Mr. Smite’s Improvisation
  – As long as two of you are alive, one of the Saboteurs may roleblock one player’s Night actions.
  
• Lapdogs, all of you!
  – As long as one of you is alive, one of the Saboteurs may kill one player at Night and force them to ragequit.
  
• Patrol!
  – As long as one of you is alive, you may use the provided QuickTopic to talk at ANY time. http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FACjCCatwSVJj
  
• Red Wool Bandanas
  – you have disguised yourself in the ranks of this group and know the following:
  • There are no Dwarves in this group.
    Dwarves can be Warriors, Shaman, Hunters, Rogues, Priests, Mages, Paladins, and Warlocks.
    
    
  • There are no Rogues in this group.
    Rogues can be played by Orcs, Trolls, Undead, Goblins, Blood Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, Night Elves, and Worgen.
    
    
  • There are both Alliance and Horde in the group, though there are more Alliance.
  
  
• Fake Claim, Please!
  – Send me a Race/Class combination and I’ll send you some possible Abilities and Actions that Race/Class combo might have in this game.

Win Condition

: You win when it is no longer possible for the group to hold a majority over you, the Defias Saboteurs.

This Rolepm doesn't make it clear what you are, so you're getting confused. It doesn't have a race, and you can't very well claim the class it says.

That's okay, it's a confusing game when you're scum and don't know the source material.

Here you imply my question has to do with me being confused about my race

and in that post you just made your implying that I stated your faking because your scum.



Stop implying fake crap, and start posting real attacks.

[kiwieagle]

whats a lowhanging fruit?

[kiwieagle]

whats a lowhanging fruit?

(answer this)

and if im town then what?

[kiwieagle]

PEDIT:
someone alreadys answered the fruit question.

[kiwieagle]

Points against Kiwi

1. Early VT claim under no pressure

This is scummy to you?

2. Random comment about Fate having a PR

This is scummy to you?

3. Another comment about Para having a PR -> possibly a distraction for the rapid Val wagon

This is scummy to you?

4. "getting confused" about the set up.

Misrep

5. guilty defence of my initial case.

Guilty case? Do tell. Cause I dont find any.

So far he's answered none of it satisfactorily. Apparently he didn't mean to post the Fate PR. The Para PR comment wasn't serious (which doesn't stop it from being a distraction).
Also, he claimed alliance, then he started to realise that Reck's power may uncover him, so he's trying to muddy the waters, through feigned confusion about what it means to be alliance or horde.

Heh, I know I'm reaching slightly with some of the above, but stack it all together and it gives me a stronger scum read than I've had D1 for a while.

[kiwieagle]

If you're town then any connection case to Val no longer applies.

and what happens to you?

[kiwieagle]

Premature VT claims are definitely scummy. There's no town motivation for doing them.

And he didn't say Fate has a PR because he's only been talking about Reck. He said Fate has a PR and then didn't explain it.

He didn't say Para has a PR because he's only been talking about RBT he said that Para had a PR because all of the RBT-Hate was "formatted" in the same way. And then didn't explain that except to say it wasn't serious. So this is what happened.
You posted.
People reacted to your post and declared you scummy for it
2 votes landed on you.
Almost straight after that, kiwi posts a PR comment.
Reck dismisses it as stupid
Kiwi defends it
Kiwi then says it wasn't serious.

So what was the purpose of the defence and then dismissal of his own theory? I put forward that the purpose was to move the spotlight.

Ugh.


When did I say Fate had a post restriction?

QUOTE IT.

[kiwieagle]

Sigh
1. Yes, and I've explained why.

Badly.

2. Not on it's own, but you've still not explained why you said it and that is odd

I did.

3. Yes, and I've explained why

Badly

4. You are stating that you now understand which faction Scarlet Crusaders will show up as?

When did I state that? STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH

5. I've explained why, your immediate reaction to my first case stank of "how did I get caught already?"

Reread then.

PEDIT:

If you are town I continue scum hunting just like I would if you flipped scum.

[kiwieagle]

Also also, what the hell

In #166 you are denying that you ever said Fate has a post restriction

In #168 you are saying that you explained why you said Fate has a post restriction

What? How can you have explained something you never did?

NO.
NO.
NO.

STOP
STOP
STOP

THIS IS GETTING SO STUPID.


I SAID "ITS FUN TO SEE A PR FATE""

I DIDNT SAY FATE HAS A PR.

I JUST READ A GAME WHERE HIS PR IS HE HAS TO CHANGE COLORS

like

this

NOW

STOP

MISSREPING ME

[kiwieagle]

Faction: Horde

Seacore, I think you're reaching. Kiwi doesn't sound scum, he sounds confused town. He's reacting poorly to pressure, which is interesting, but also doesn't mean that much given his join date. I just don't see how he could claim properly and then think everyone in the game was human - I think there's some misinterpreting/misrepping going on, and I think Seacore is really reaching with the deflection from Valern argument.

Kiwi, why do you keep bringing up post restrictions (you've done so twice, that's not just idle joking)? Did you read the previous game? And would you please put your comments outside of the quote box; it makes it very difficult to follow the conversation back and forth.

VOTE: Seacore

And p-edit, did Fate just try to clear Seacore on his history of random outcomes continuing to be town? Fate, I thought you were math something or other! I'll look at Reck, but I'm more interested in Seacore right now. Besides, Reck thinking he can clear himself and saying so doesn't feel like Reckscum to me.

EBWOP again: Ugh so much capslock.

To your question:

I sincerely have no idea why I have mentioned post restrictions twice.
I just did.

[kiwieagle]

and fuck it, I quit with trying to keep up with the ninjas. Kiwi, you had no reason to say that in this game.

I KNOW.
MY BAD.
MOVE ON

[kiwieagle]

Finally lets approach my case again

1. Early VT claim is scummy because it's an attempt to look harmless and a set up to explain away the fact that you haven't been NK'd. Please explain the town reason for declaring you are a VT and thereby helping the scum narrow down on hitting town that have PRs.

2. You declared that it is fun to see a post restricted fate. If I came home and said to my wife "Iceskating on a lunch break is fun" and she said "Really? Did you go ice skating on your lunchbreak?" and then I replied "no, I never said I did, I just just said it was fun". Then I am being a dick who was intentionally trying to mislead her with my original statement. She is fully entitled to think I went ice skating based on my original statement.
This is what you did. I would like to know why you did it, you have not explained why you did it.

3. You then declared, even more forthrightly, that Para had a PR. When Reck dismissed that as a stupid idea you then defended it. Later you pretended that the whole thing was not a serious comment. Why? Why did you defend it if it wasn't serious? Why did you say it wasn't serious if it was worth defending? I also find the timing of it suspicious. You seemed to all but admit that yourself in your first reply to my case when you said "It makes sense, but too much WIFOM" So my explanation then was fine, but since then when I've explained it even more clearly, it's now a bad explanation... interesting.

4. Your "confusion" over factions. I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was giving you another option. Please clarify. Are you : a) Confused about what alliance and horde means? or b) Now understanding what alliance and horde means? If it is a) I'm saying that your confusion that you exhibited is an attempt to shirk responsibility for what's going on. If it's b) why were you pretending to be confused earlier?

5. This was your first comment after my case on you

this gave you enough confidence for both my lynch and Vals?

This is not "your case is weak" this is not "I'm not scum, because...." this is "holy crap, I'm busted"

Your repeating and repeating the same shit hoping someone actually reads.

[kiwieagle]

Also:


Does Fate usually push a wagon with caps lock and telling whoever doesnt vote who he thinks is scum is his scumbuddy?

[kiwieagle]

tbh, if Reck is lynched alot of info can be gathered:


IF hes town ---> Fate is gonna get suspicion
IF hes mafia ---> We can agree with fate and lynch hindu (does scumFate buss alot?)

If anything, I wouldnt like a scumFate in lylo.
Lets atleast clear him.

[kiwieagle]

Also:


I dont like the point was so quick to shoot.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: i dont like the point Parama was so quick to dayvig

[kiwieagle]

Unvote. Vote Reck

Fine, Fate. I'm willing to go with you on this. I still think Kiwi is bad scum flailing. But you regularly out scum hunt me. If Reck's claim is decent I might jump back.

PEDIT
Kiwi, really? Stop posting. Just pick another player and sheep their vote. Reck town does not make Fate any more scummy than he is right now. If Reck's scum it doesn't clear Fate at all.

If scumFate likes to bus, it doesnt clear him at all. (I didnt know fate liked to bus until he said)

and

if Reck's town I would be suspicious of Fate, because he tried so hard to push that lynch as if tho reck was modconfirmed scum.

[kiwieagle]

Also:

Seacore why are you misrepping everything I say?

Is it a hobby of yours?


IT WAS A WAY TO SAY:

WOW FATE IS SO CONFIDENT HES CAUGHT SCUM
IM NOT SAYING HES A DAY COP

[kiwieagle]

Can you please answer my question?

[kiwieagle]

Seacore why are you misrepping everything I say?

[kiwieagle]

Also:

Seacore why are you misrepping everything I say?

Is it a hobby of yours?


IT WAS A WAY TO SAY:

WOW FATE IS SO CONFIDENT HES CAUGHT SCUM
IM NOT SAYING HES A DAY COP

Well you didn't say that.
What you said was "

Fate is really confident of his case on Reck, so confident it must be mod confirmed. So if it turns out that Reck is not town, Fate is more likely to be scum for being that confident and being wrong.

My counter argument is "the only way for Reck's alignment to be mod confirmed to a town-Fate is if Fate is a Day Cop." Since that is obviously not the case, then Fate clearly doesn't have Reck as mod confirmed scum. Therefore you cannot base your evaluation on Fate's alignment on the outcome of the case but you should be basing it on the case itself.

Actually, forget this, I'm not wasting my breathe on you any more. I apologise, I do not mean to be rude, but you do not have the basics of mafia understood and you don't appear open to understanding it.

Its tiring to misrep isnt it?

Heres what I ACTUALLY said:

Wow, Fate is pushing that wagon real hard, its as if though Fate has modconfirmed scum ... (Its a way to say: Wow fate is real confident)

Your counter argument is BS cause I never said that.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi

You are hereby banned from the following

1. Saying that you "don't like" things
2. Saying anything in thread that doesn't involve this game
3. Talking about players without saying whether you find them scummy or towny.

"I don't like" is the same as "that's interesting" "this gives me information" it's a way to look like you're forming cases but aren't

Is Parama scummy for the quick kill. Yes or no, with reasons.

mmk smargaret.


but heres the thing:
1. When you dont like something = you find it scummy for me. Do I say "bad vibes" instead?
2. I stopped
3. When did I do that?

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, just say "I find X scummy because" it saves time and confusion.

So you find Parama scummy for the early shot?

If you hate him, then fine.

But no reason to kill him when the game hasnt even "started"?

Why would you randomly kill someone if you could accidently shoot a Power Role?

Its antitown.

[kiwieagle]

Yeah, I'm steadily agreeing with you Fate. I will still listen for us claim though, just as you will despite your CAPS and claims to the contrary. Players have yet to even post so we can be patient, but I'm agreeing with you.

PEDIT
Okay, so lets examine what you've said.

Fate is pushing that wagon real hard he must be really confident he's caught scum.

Do you agree that that is what you're trying to say? For fear of 'misrepping' you, I will wait until I continue.

Pretty Much.


Look at post #229

[kiwieagle]

Seacore I seriously will NOT listen to the claim unless it is a mason claim, an innocent child claim, or a friendly neighbor.

Reck has said "A 1v1 WITH ME IS DUM CUZ ILL FLIP TOWN HAR HAR"

That is NOT coming from someone with a power role. No way in HELL. I know you fucks won't hammer him without the claim, and we're PROBABLY going to spend another 10 pages bullshitting about WHY Reck's claim should/shouldn't be lynched (he's claimed cop as scum before and fuckign LIVED till endgame with no questions asked, which is why I want him dead TODAY before I'm NK'd)

Reck is L-1?

oh shit

I was about to vote.

[kiwieagle]

Also:


Why is that ICing fate?

Misrepping your posts and then calling you a bad player is not "ICing".

And

This is what I gathered from your post:

"yes your right seacore, now shut up and vote reck"


And now because you agreed with Seacore about me being a bad player, Seacore will feel he owes it to you by sheeping reck.


And even now when seacore believes the claim he doesnt un vote.

And fate, reck being scum does not clear you.

[kiwieagle]

Firstly,

unvote Valern

. Random vote is over, let's get srs.

Holy crap Fate, do you really thinking talking in all caps all the time and and swearing and being an asshole is going to convince people you're right?

Unvote. Vote Reck

Fine, Fate. I'm willing to go with you on this.

Well shit, I guess it does work. I pity those agreeing with you because you're loud, not because they think you're right. Nevertheless, you can't spend all game attacking someone and then try to use "look, all they do is defend themselves" as justification.

You're being ridiculously single-minded. You're saying you're willing to lynch yourself if you're wrong, which is bull, because I can already see the Day2 all-caps lock "IT'S RETARDED TO WANT TO LYNCH ME FOR THAT YOU ASSHATS YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM TOO" etc. etc. Saying you're willing to stake your life on it doesn't make you any more right.

Fate, other than Reck, name one person you think is scummy,

and why

. And if that reason is "because he's not voting for Reck" or "he's defending Reck", it doesn't count. And by "doesn't count" I mean I will lynch you. Stop tunneling off of nothing, and be the scumhunter you're demanding Reck should be. Your hyper-aggressive play is letting the scum sit quiet while you draw attention to yourself and Reck. Even if Reck is scum, you're letting his buddies hide.

Regardless of your alignment, your play is dangerous to the town.

--

Kiwi, do you understand why an early VT claim for no reason looks scummy? Simple yes or no question. Do you understand why talking about another game in this game is confusing and misleading? Do you also understand that if you keep saying "misrep" over and over (and over) it's going to lose all meaning?

To your 1st question:
Depends on the person / null point.

2nd question:
Yeah I get it. My bad.

3rd question:
Do you feel Seacore is misrepping me (y/n)?

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi's claim with no pressure feels very odd to me. Parama really should have used his dayvig on this dude instead of RBT. He's seriously maiming my brain with his posts.

Holy crap, who is Seacore??? You, sir, are a comedic genius! I'm laughing my ass off at Post 138.

SO im confused whether the humans in Scarlet Monastery are accounted as alliance ingame?

A simple Google search could pull up the many sites that have Warcraft lore and databases to answer your question. Why not try and do some research?

Your repeating and repeating the same shit hoping someone actually reads.

Saying things like this does not help your case at all. How about responding to what he says rather than going with stupid quips like this?

As of late, it seems that the only contributions you've had are "No, you!!!" to Seacore. Some actual content rather than the whining that I'm reading would be much appreciated.

Oh shit, I thought the whisper command was /r. My bad.

Don't be sorry. You aren't wrong. When someone whispers you, you can type /r to reply.

Do you also understand that if you keep saying "misrep" over and over (and over) it's going to lose all meaning?

QFTxINFINITY

I need to read the ReckvFate more in depth.

Hmmm....


To your first quote:
I did.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Scarlet_Crusade
There wasnt an exact answer.

To your second quote:
So I have not defended myself, is what your saying right?
Hmm
ISO me, if you wish.
I believe I have defended myself with something other than "no you"

[kiwieagle]

Oh :3


Thats why you asked me in Reverse Mafia

[kiwieagle]

Forgot why playing with the CAPS LOCKERS is such a bummer.

My thoughts exactly. I feel like there's an actual case buried in the caps-locked, swear-filled posts, but my brain hurts just trying to read them. But here's my attempt at translating Fate's case against Reck (please feel free to correct me, Fate, if I've misinterpreted)

(1) Reck is not playing to his town meta of starting off the game picking town reads.
(2) Reck unvoted Kiwieagle when (in Fate's words) he realized the wagon would make him look bad.
(3) Reck is not playing to his town meta by putting more emphasis on night actions
(4) Reck is not playing as a PR would be playing. (again here)
(5) Reck is trying to sound townly without actually hunting scum
(6) Reck is voting for me (BMQ), and I know I am town.

Firstly, I'm not a player that plays off meta. You can play that way if you like, and I won't hold it against you, but it's not something that will convince me personally. So I won't buy into (1) and (3).

(2) is a reasonable claim. I think the case against Kiwi is weak, and Reck unvoted Kiwi. You can read whatever motivation you'd like to into that (is it a weak wagon? or does he not want to make himself look bad by voting Kiwi?)

Likewise, (5) is another reasonable claim, but heavily based on opinion. I wouldn't hold this against Fate, but you either agree that Reck is trying to sound townly or you don't.

For (6), voting for me does not automatically make you scum. Townies vote for townies, it happens.

However, (4) is where the meat is. Fate's case that Reck isn't playing to the role he claims to be is an argument that has merit. Reck stirred up a full faction-claim from the town for what... a one-shot messenger role that can only interact with a small section of the town. I'd estimate 3 scum in the setup, leaving 10 town. It's a reasonable guess that those 10 town would be 5 Alliance and 5 Horde, give or take 1 person either way. Not including himself, that means there are 4-5 people that he can one-shot neighbor with, which is (a) a one-shot use of (b) a restricted target ability that (c) neighbors, which is a fundamentally weak ability. Reck says he wants to use it in a way to turn it into a pseudo-investigation. But as a role, it just seems very underpowered, hurting its legitimacy.

Reck, you know how I would have played your claimed role, if I had it? I would've kept my mouth shut, attempted a /w, and then based on my result (communication went through, blocked, whatever), I could then, the next day, openly ask that player "hey, are you Alliance or Horde?". If their answer contradicted the information I received, whammo, we've got a scum. I honestly don't see why you've dragged faction information out of everyone and drawn so much attention to yourself in an "investigative" role. You're trying to set yourself up like a pseudo-cop, but you're not playing like a cop. I have a sinking feeling that you're scum, and one of your powers is related to player faction.

The flavor of your claim ("/w") doesn't fit the flavor of other powers in the game. The claim itself seems so weak that it's hard to believe. And you're not playing to the investigative style you're claiming. Even if, on your best day, you're a one-shot cop, cops don't claim for no reason D1.

this is what I would do:

Your blocked to horde only or scarlet aswell?
If your blocked to both then:

Neighborize an alliance so then he can become confirmed townie, but neighborize someone you feel confident will make it to lylo.
If your blocked when neighborizing an alliance, then yay! you caught scum.

[kiwieagle]

Reck:

Claim seems honest.. Leaning town/null

Fate:

His attacks make sense, but seem forced. And
hes way too relentless and stubborn.

Brian:

I dont know... he hasnt posted much....

Seacore:

HE MISREPS ME!

Hmm.... his sheeping on fate gives me bad vibes ... but lots of people have sheeped fate.... ehhh .....

[kiwieagle]

ACTUALLY don't race claim in case scum can use that to their advantage

Horde is Orc/Goblin/Troll/Undead(Forsaken)/Tauren/Blood Elf

Alliance is Human/Night Elf/Dranei/Dwarf/Gnome/Worgen

PREDIT: yeah just say faction

Then your lying to us or what?

I understand you're confusion Kiwi, we've been given role PMs that state our Race and Class. Making it clear that we're actual toons inside WoW.

You've been given a Role PM like this one:

Here you are implying im asking a question about class and race

Players

: xRECKONERx, smargaret, Enigma

Races

: Various

Class

: Defias Saboteur

Abilities

• Chaos in the Foundry
  – As long as three of you are alive, you may secretly move any player’s vote to the voted player of your choice one time each Day.
  
• Mr. Smite’s Improvisation
  – As long as two of you are alive, one of the Saboteurs may roleblock one player’s Night actions.
  
• Lapdogs, all of you!
  – As long as one of you is alive, one of the Saboteurs may kill one player at Night and force them to ragequit.
  
• Patrol!
  – As long as one of you is alive, you may use the provided QuickTopic to talk at ANY time. http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FACjCCatwSVJj
  
• Red Wool Bandanas
  – you have disguised yourself in the ranks of this group and know the following:
  • There are no Dwarves in this group.
    Dwarves can be Warriors, Shaman, Hunters, Rogues, Priests, Mages, Paladins, and Warlocks.
    
    
  • There are no Rogues in this group.
    Rogues can be played by Orcs, Trolls, Undead, Goblins, Blood Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, Night Elves, and Worgen.
    
    
  • There are both Alliance and Horde in the group, though there are more Alliance.
  
  
• Fake Claim, Please!
  – Send me a Race/Class combination and I’ll send you some possible Abilities and Actions that Race/Class combo might have in this game.

Win Condition

: You win when it is no longer possible for the group to hold a majority over you, the Defias Saboteurs.

This Rolepm doesn't make it clear what you are, so you're getting confused. It doesn't have a race, and you can't very well claim the class it says.

That's okay, it's a confusing game when you're scum and don't know the source material.

Here you imply my question has to do with me being confused about my race

and in that post you just made your implying that I stated your faking because your scum.



Stop implying fake crap, and start posting real attacks.

happy?

[kiwieagle]

seacore-smargaret-Fate


CALLING IT NOW!

[kiwieagle]

So is it a hammer or not?

[kiwieagle]

Seacore your vote already was on reck

[kiwieagle]

Seriously, if I get to L-1, I'm self-hammering. This town is fucking retarded.

[kiwieagle]

I want a Seacore lynch tommorow....

not fate though....


(this is me assuming Reck will flip town, if not....
Im gonna do quite some rereading)

[kiwieagle]

Um, I was voting for Brian prior to my recent vote.

You were?

Oh.

Inhim should update the votecount

[kiwieagle]

I want a Seacore lynch tommorow....

not fate though....


(this is me assuming Reck will flip town, if not....
Im gonna do quite some rereading)

die in a fire

are you that mad at fate?

[kiwieagle]

Vote Count 1.4

or "GY down, anyone for Library?"

12 players remain; 7 votes needed for a lynch.

12 players remain; 7 votes needed for a lynch.

xRECKONERx (3)

- Fate, Seacore, Friend

Seacore (3)

- Valern, smargaret, Hinduragi

BrianMcQueso (3)

- Parama, Ellibereth, xRECKONERx

Fate (1)

- kiwieagle

Yet to vote (2): Starbuck, BrianMcQueso

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, you get that actions taken AFTER a vote count aren't reflected in that vote count, right?

Anyway, I just did a count, and Reck isn't lynched yet, I believe he's at L-1 now.

I think it's

xRECKONERx (6) - Fate, Friend, smargaret, Brian, Seacore, Parama

[kiwieagle]

The VC post wasnt even directed to you Seacore.


It was about my vote.

[kiwieagle]

I think he already unbookmarked this thread and all

[kiwieagle]

I was expecting that at any moment. ^^

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: seacore

This was gonna be my 1st post day 2.

[kiwieagle]

Answering questions dont refute a case

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: Reck

[kiwieagle]

i think hes L-1 again.

so dont vote until...

something happens?

[kiwieagle]

Fate is that friend list PM you sent to the mod in your outbox?

[kiwieagle]

^^
thats why I asked.

[kiwieagle]

unvote

I think Fate is a lyncher

[kiwieagle]

Its possible.

You dont mind being called scum, because you achieve your wincon anyways.

[kiwieagle]

How could you even SPECULATE that if you were town?

Real question, 2mins to answer:

Are you an alt?

How old is your main?

No





Why is it possible not to speculate it?

VOTE: reck

but if im right im gonna say "I told you so"

[kiwieagle]

Ehh

Im bacj gimme a second

[kiwieagle]

How long have you been playing mafia, what other sites have you played on?

3 days before i joined this site i guess.
None

[kiwieagle]

kiwi get in here so Fate can capslockraeg on you
you freaking deserve it

Is this because of reverse mafia?

And why does lyncher sound like such a bad idea?

[kiwieagle]

Last chance:

Where did you hear about the Lyncher role? How are you familiar with it?

The game about chinese warriors, forgot the name. Deitykabuto was a lyncher, didnt know what it was read in the wiki. I guess its someone whom is told he has to lynch someone else so he achieves his wincon.


Im i wrong in that or something ?

[kiwieagle]

kiwi get in here so Fate can capslockraeg on you
you freaking deserve it

Is this because of reverse mafia?

And why does lyncher sound like such a bad idea?

Oh my bad.

Could mod please delete this?

Im so stupid.

Ugh sorry its past midnight.

[kiwieagle]

Anyways going to sleep.


Why does thinking your a lyncher scum?

[kiwieagle]

Ehhh meh


Im a dwarf priest.

Just a townie.



And if this lynch go through it would be my first lynch in mafiascum. Do you veterans still remember yours?


This lynch is scum driven most probably.

Also when im L-1 can I do the honors?
Or is hammering town blacklistable?

If yoy guys could lynch smarg tommorow im fine.

Because in everyones predictions of scum, smarg always appears.

Uhhhh

Anyways im going to work, so yeah.

[kiwieagle]

When i flip town who will you guys lynch tommorow? Just curious

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: smargaret

why is speculating on lynchers so scummy?
No one has answered

[kiwieagle]

Starbuck is town! Woop!

vote: Reck

fate your logic makes no sense. if one of you/reck is conf. scum, and kiwi is scum only if reck is town, then your vote should be on the one who you know to be scum right?
but WAIT!
you're getting one step ahead of yourself

you're slipping

falling

failing
























you will


























































die

vote: Fate

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: kiwieagle

Meh.
Fate wont stop caps lock raging until im lynched, so im doing you guys a favor.

Im a dwarf priest.

Nothing has changed.

[kiwieagle]

ok so what now.


Friend is active lurking.
Smarg is scum.
Seacore likes to call me scum.
Fate is not scum anymore unless Parama is scum.
Parama (look up)
Brian . idk.
Reck is pissed town.
Starbuck doesnt post much.
Elliberth is on the right track.
Has Valern posted?

[kiwieagle]

also:

this was a fun game, despite what other say (atleast D1)

[kiwieagle]

also lol at Fate buddying with Reck

[kiwieagle]

Heh.

I knew Seacore was scum.