Mini 1211: Murder in Sicily [Over]

[bobsnox]

/confirm

love that avatar ^

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VOTE: crappy

cause... you're crappy

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haha this is funny. I forgot what game this was... went to the newest post and did a typical RVS. hhaha I'm a little ashamed.

UNVOTE: Crappy

Let me actually consider context now

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Panacea - I removed it because it was purely RVS when I didn't realize what game this was and the fact that RVS was done with. I should be voting someone who I think is scummy.

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bobsnox, why didn't you post anything while the pregame daykill shenanigans were going on?

I was way too busy and the game hadn't technically started.

Friend - let me get back to you this weekend. I need to read all the pregame stuff that I basically ignored <_<

Panacea - yes. I didn't make the connection obviously. I got the PM and was like oh yeah I'm in that one game that was supposed to start soon... guess I'll go post.

Sorry guys.

[bobsnox]

Going to a wedding in another city today. Will post more tonight.

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Didn't have internet for most of today. I am going to make good on my promise now though.

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52+ hours in which he has made 23 posts onsite outside of this game, too. I guess he forgot about us again.

Nope just wanted to make sure my next post in this game was worthwhile. ISOing everyone right now

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Friend

- leaning town

I don't have much to say other than I like his style. Seems genuine and focused.

iamausername

- leaning town

Seems to be putting genuine effort into this game.

LTP Mafia

- null

I need to see more than his one content post. Voting Whiskers because Whiskers stands out is either scummy or a VT who doesn't care a ton. Maybe that's his play style.

monk

- leaning town

I rarely see scum call someone else out for not scumhunting. Usually they find something else to harp on.

MusicNinja

- leaning town

Seems levelheaded, tries to consider all angles with regards to Whiskers.

Noramp

- leaning scum

Feels disingenuous with all those questions. Could just be his playing style, but that stuff always pings my scumdar. He doesn't seem to touch on the Whiskers stuff other than saying he doesn't like the speed of the wagon. But what about the play of Whiskers? Possible buddy or possible scum trying to avoid what he knows to be a mislynch? Not sure, but his monk vote doesn't sit right with me in context.

Panacea

- null

Can't tell if she's genuine or not. Honestly, I have a hard time reading female players. Some of her analysis is good but I agree that her reluctance to vote is odd.

scumhunter

- null

where is he? I know it's hypocritical but really... he has tried less than I have, which is saying something. null until he says something

substrike22

- town

he's just obvtown. scum don't call that kind of attention to themselves, and I don't get any scumvibes from his posts.

tovarish

- leaning town

I don't like his unvote on Whiskers, but 118 seems genuine.

Whiskers

- leaning scum

I agree with the scumreads people are getting on her, but the fact that she is trying keeps her on the leaning side instead of obvscum. Not a protown attitude generally speaking. Good that she recognizes the scumminess of only defending herself and not scumhunting. Analysis seems forced though.

Summary

: Not sure if Whiskers is the best place for my vote yet. If the deadline were soon I would vote her, but I need to look at her wagon more closely. Leaning scum on Noramp.

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Speaking of artificial, take a closer look at bob's reads. In an obvious display of attempting to placate his attackers in the hopes of persuading them away, he calls me town for "putting genuine effort into this game". If all you had to do to find scum was lynch the people not putting in effort, I think town winrates would be a lot higher than they are. But, more to the point, if bob thinks putting effort in is a town tell, how does he end up with Whiskers as one of his only two scumpicks?

I have a policy against lynching people who try hard early on. If they're scum they will catch themselves up. Scum can't lead the game and avoid being caught.

Whiskers's efforts, however, don't seem to have the right motivation behind them. You'll notice I'm not voting her (yet) because I do generally follow the policy above. But she's very tempting.

He also says Panacea is null because "her reluctance to vote is odd" and yet makes no vote himself. He dislikes Tovarish unvoting Whiskers because the wagon is building too quick, but then MusicNinja being reluctant to vote because the wagon is building too quick makes him town because he "tries to consider all angles with regards to Whiskers."

Panacea seemed to have strong reads but refrained from voting. My case is not the same as hers.

Tovarish/MusicNinja stuff is taken out of context to be sure.

I was about to vote bob. I'm not super conf. he's scum, let the feeling I get ferment for a few hours, then I'll vote him.

someone please explain to me how this isn't akin to claiming scum

"I'll vote him later when I feel more like it."

VOTE: Whiskers

[bobsnox]

Wow OMGUS at this stage? Do you want to die tomorrow?

[bobsnox]

because you'll explode and kill your attacker or what?

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Also, I could support a bob lynch today, but not yet. We need more evidence. Always good to start the game off with a scum lynch.

Hey bobsnox, what do you think of this post?

scummy

maybe he knows I'm town and wants more of an excuse to mislynch me

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whiskers - MusicNinja is scum. he's making it clear

VOTE: Musicninja

[bobsnox]

Wait, wait, I thought

I

was scum. Why the switch, bob?

Vote: MusicNinja[/i]

Bob, if you are wrong about Me and Noramp, who are your NEXT scum reads?

MN jumped above you two. Why is that so scummy?

[bobsnox]

I'm at L-2 apparently. Look I don't have the time to make a solid enough post to persuade you guys against lynching me, and I won't be on much tomorrow, so I'll just claim. I'm the Town Cop. I play this way when I have an investigative role in an effort to go unnoticed and stay alive. But obviously I haven't come across as protown so it backfired in this particular game.

Now can we please lynch someone non-bobsnox? <_<

I'm still good with MusicNinja.

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I guess I really have been scummy to generate this much doubt even post-claim. but this is how i play as cop until I have good evidence to use.

I'm surprised Substrike came back and went straight at Whiskers. I'm also surprised MusicNinja is still alive.

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However, Bobsnox lynch won't happen today (probably), because he made a bullshit PR claim.

Your logic is poopy. If it's a bad claim I would be lynched. But it's not. So I'm wondering why you're insinuating that it's bad but you're not willing to lynch me. Don't want to mislynch the cop, eh scum?

I was sorta writing you off as overly aggressive town but now I'm really wondering if substrike's not right.

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UNVOTE: music
VOTE: whiskers

noramp - ^

panacea - yep

It's time for a lynching. I know who I'm investigating tonight if I live/don't get roleblocked, etc.

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I know who I'm investigating tonight if I live/don't get roleblocked, etc.

In my experience, it is NEVER a good idea to tell the town who you are using your night action on, the night before you use it. I'm not sure if MafiaScum has a mafia role equivalent of a Framer (makes an innocent party look guilty), but if it does, and there just so happens to be a Framer i nthis game? Well now Whiskers is gettin framed tonight.

Well aware, which is why I didn't use any names.

I don't understand your Whiskers statement though...

Panacea - you asked if I thought I might be quickhammered. I figured there was a good chance.

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I said that because of the deadline.

That's extremely antitown to push to lynch a claimed, non-CCed cop on day one. Just think about what you're suggesting...

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Wow this is crap. Of course scum would CC and trade 1-1 for the cop. He might even be a bomb. This is ridiculous and it was horribly timed/opportunistic.

Oh well

[bobsnox]

My defense is that your claim makes no sense