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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:16 am

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hiphop wrote:
Magua wrote:
  • Cop (Targeted):
    Choose another player. You will receive back a report of “Mafia” or “Not Mafia”. You are guaranteed sane; however, other abilities may modify the result of the report.
  • Also, when I read something it sticks.




    Point taken.

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    Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:19 am

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    With that in mind, how likely is voided the sk?
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    Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:51 am

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    Not likely.

    Also, I used Forensic Accountant on IceGuy last night. The results are:

    D1, obtained Double Vote x2 and Investigation Immune x4.
    D2, obtained Roleblocker x3
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    Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:00 am

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    Interesting timing.

    I would like to point out, that with Gravedigger also being used on IG, that whoever had Gravedigger is most likely scum. So not only did scum get Investigation Immune(cops are worthless now), doublevote(scum cannot reach lylo), and Roleblocker (well there goes the nk). Also, LLd was outbid on Gravedigger. Or was she?
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    Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:05 am

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    She claims as such, anyways

    Also, Hitman+NK can break through one of II or RB, but not both. So the NKer'd just have to hope he/she only has to deal with one.
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    Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:20 am

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    Taking that into account, I like Voided as the SK a hell of a lot more than I like Ethos as either scum or SK.

    Here are my current reads.

    100% town - Hiphop, Seacore, myself
    80% town - GreyIce, Ethos

    99% scum/sk - LLD

    100% "not scum" - Voided
    60% sk - Voided


    I suppose by process of elimination that leaves us with Voided, cause I have stronger reads on everyone else. I say we get LLD out of the way now, as I believe she got gravedigger and now has a shit ton of power.
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    Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:42 am

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    I am extremely skeptic, about LLd being the scum. And the scum is the most dangerous of the 2. LLd can you provide a list like the above, or at least your scum reads?
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    Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:17 am

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    Why have you singled out LLD not being scum? I assume you mean that she could be the sk. How did you come to that conclusion?
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    Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:36 am

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    It comes down to gravedigger. Did she, or did she not get outbid?
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    Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:04 pm

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    Hitman + NK = GreyICE
    Tracker=Void
    Last Will +Doctor = Seacore

    This is all self explanatory, but if you need why's just ask. As far as reads:

    Seacore-Town-Attitude revolving around auctions/bidding, saved RedCoyote (Void) N1 preventing the kill, near-mod-confirmation via mod stating that certain questions can't be asked.

    RC/Void-Town-Saved Night 1, attitude.

    LLD/bobsnox-Leaning Town-Her claim is what is keeping her here.

    GreyICE/MS-Leaning Town-Reg has full town, slaxx isn't as sure (explain later if need be). Feels a lot like town-Grey to Reg, his claim also helps.

    Scum read: Hiphop (Yes, we think he shot his own partner, will elaborate into it later)

    Robber read: Newman (Gah, it makes a lot of sense but everytime I read his ISO I doubt this read)
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    Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:04 pm

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    Also, we are going to invest unless town can think of something useful for us to bid on.
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    Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:10 pm

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    Please explain the logic of giving the NK to somebody other than the most town player?

    I'm not saying I disagree, I'd just like to know why.
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    Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:12 pm

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    Fyi- Iceguy has already bid everything he has on NK, and did not get it. Also I have over $700, where and how could I get that much money, if I had won nk yesterday? If you want me to prove it, I could take Nk right now, just to validate I have the funds for it. And further more, it was I who sent IceGuy $100 yesterday, keeping in mind that is evident that everyone else already thought I was town. I really want to hear your explanations.

    And Seacore, Iceguy is more town than you.
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    Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:13 pm

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    GREYICE!
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    Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:14 pm

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    Sigh, apparently.
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    Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:16 pm

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    However, GreyIce is not more town than me. I am mod-confirmed town. There is no way that the mod posts a rules clarification otherwise.
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    Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:24 pm

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    Seacore, tomorrow nights-night-kill will effectively be a lylo kill if we mslynch today and I'd rather have someone I completely trust controlling that which is why you accumulating funds and saving for it is a good idea.
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    Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:34 pm

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    From the $520 I had bid on Nk yesterday. I immediately had bid on Accountant for $100(to prove that voided had bid on it instead of bidding the minumum and still have the nk. Outbid

    Bid on RB for $150, and Peace Treaty for $100.
    Transferred $106 to GreyIce-Rounds down to $100
    Invested $100
    3 pms all before the mod responded.
    And then after all this GI(yes GI, not Ig) activated Fr. So I was unable to increase my bid on Nk.
    Increase Rb bid to $400, without being outbid.
    Then I increased it to $509, without being outbid
    $85 for eff and wage bonus.

    So 54 hous into day 5 I will have $744.

    And Seacore, I believe someone who is not part of the neighborhood, tried to Nk last night. For the neighborhood knew Hn had the Peace Treaty. And also the mod confirmed would not have been you. If you are the mafia member, it would be in your best interest to have the robber dead, for that is one step closer to winning the game, without have some random coincidence stopping it. So if there was only 1 Pr, bingo there is the SK. The guy that needs to win on his own. I don't believe you are the Sk, because you confirmed the existence. And thinking you are the mafia member is a lot more saner then me shooting my buddy, especially being it was he who had II, double voter, and Roleblocker. He could have confirmed his innocence by a cop investigation. And even Voided thinks I am more town than you.
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    Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:37 pm

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    I will have more money than you at some stage of today. just FYI

    But I'm cool for getting doc and last will now, and getting NK tomorrow.
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    Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:38 pm

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    I already have Hitman, mind. Wouldn't garaunteed doc be better than garaunteed track?
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    Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:39 pm

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    Hitman isn't Strongman, it only guarantees kills.
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    Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:39 pm

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    Oh and I was outbid on Peace Treaty and Roleblocker before the day ended. And yes right there, proves that I did not have Nk last night, unless I had over $1000. And that I would have had to have that after winning Nk day 2. And Ethos thinks Hn could not had have the Nk because he bid on cop and Peace treaty.(I don't believe it either), and yet I would had to have more money than that. Someone needs to do a reread.
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    Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:40 pm

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    Seacore if you have more than $700, I would believe there wouldn't be a chance that you are the mafia member.
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    Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:41 pm

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    Seacore wrote:Hitman isn't Strongman, it only guarantees kills.

    True, but he already put a majority of his funds on doc.
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    Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:43 pm

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    I don't understand why having non-standard town-roles (ie LLD and GI) is a point in their favour.

    Particularly for LLD. I mean, if you were going to need to explain why you have different money to the town, then you'd come up with a different way to accumulate that money.

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    Sigh, people should wait for discussion before bidding. And people shouldn't bid on multiple things because that just forces town to pay more money.

    And I don't have over 700 now, but I will some hours in.

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