Flameaxe wrote:But the point is you never once said anything to suggest this until you were asked to claim. You just kept plugging along, even saying "well we are mass claiming, who is next? Oh yeah, this person. Claim.
So what is scummy about it then? Obviously it must be pretty damn scummy to vote for the player you have rarely mentioned all game.
Give me a night that I was recruited. Humor me.
It is not scummy to not want to claim. It is scummy to not say anything about not mass claiming unless everyone agreeable and willing until it is your turn to claim. You were cheerleading the claiming the entire time and never once qualified it with "wait, is everyone on board" but instead saying "come on, we're claiming, tajo is next." That is the scummy part, and the fact that you only voiced your alleged opinion after the damage had already been done. Need more scum motivation? You let the claiming go on long enough to know power roles and then said "this is so anti town to claim if not everyone is going to do it."
And finally, the last scum motivation that you seem to dismiss without saying anything about (or are ignoring) is that maybe you are using your original town power (if you have one) for scummy purposes and you don't know how to claim it; or, if cult members can only commit one action per night maybe you have been killing instead of using a power and don't have results for those nights and can't fake claim them.
Bunnylover, 3148 wrote:"You have something to hide and maybe you didn't talk about what to fake claim in your QT."
- From Xvart.
So are you assuming that he is going to fake claim instead of using his real role?
I really don't how this is so difficult to understand. If he is a bodyguard and didn't guard a claimed power role and instead guarded someone on his team; if he is a redirector and redirected a cult doctor or cop; a roleblocker blocking a cult doctor or cop; etc. etc. With the flavor in this game it is a little more difficult to fake claim results or actions.
Magister Ludi, 3173 wrote:Pings me. Seems cultish when mentioning on day two, when this is quite possible to have happened
Not really sure how this makes me Cult since I commented on something you think was quite possible to have occurred.
Magister Ludi, 3173 wrote:3. Act stupids and asks for clarification around the triangle of Yosarian me and Seraphim claims, also doesn't appear to interested in the results. Is on both of the ABR lynches, but other than that, not much.
I see the point you are trying to make but it isn't really valid since I wasn't asking for the purposes of moving my vote; I just wanted a concise chronology of the events that occurred over multiple multiple pages. Plus, I did reference it later on when talking about Seraphim and how his behavior was suspicious due to him trying to pull the same thing again.
Magister Ludi, 3173 wrote:4.
I'm still processing the Scumputer results but based on my preliminary understanding of DGBs thought process I could probably swing for a Darox lynch.
Seems to deflect thinking off himself, also plans to vote Darox weakly here.
What "thinking" was I deflecting off myself?
Cobblerfone, 3175 wrote:It only relies on the cult-docs (bvoigt has been confirmed by Lady.), the corrupt cops (solid townread on Ludi + Hero confirmed town by him) and the vigs (NS is definitely town I think. Batt I'm less sure which is why he can be Hero's first target in the plan.) to all be town. If anything goes funny (like no protection on a cult-doc or hero where there's supposed to be) then we lynch the person that failed. It only doesn't work if the cult has a roleblocker.
What's scummy is it relies on all those power roles you listed being town already (which is nearly half the town), not to mention directing all of our power roles to doing something else. The classic "look at my left hand while I steal your wallet with my right hand" sort of scam.
Cobblerfone, 3175 wrote:xvart's lynch is reasonable if only because there's not really that many people to choose from in my plan.
Vote: xvart
This is quite the turnaround from your previous commentary on my alignment, and similarly, contingent on everyone that must be town for your plan to work
to actually be town
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With Cobbler's proposed plan I'm most confident about him being Cult when looking at the sum of his play over the course of the game. Claiming unrecruitable, unclaiming unrecruitable, his scummy plan, and his claim being unbelievable and most likely completely made up. I see the outcome pattern of Cobbler's claims getting people to not target him or that he is untargetable.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cobblerfone
Once he flips cult we'll have to go back and judge the legitimacy of Flameaxe's vote on him and see if it was a bus on a wagon going nowhere or an actual town vote.
