Mini 1198 - Marketplace Mafia - Game Over


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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:52 pm

Post by Voidedmafia »

Oh, you sneaky little bastard, you.
2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;

coming back to Mafia...slowly. Keep an eye for me as a mod.
Also keep an eye for setup review requests.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:54 pm

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Setup spec never fails. Fuck.
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:54 pm

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Yeah, bulletproof OR Roleblocker it'll punch through, but not both :P

I never submitted a Night Kill on you, so the plan was for you to win and actually do a double kill night, then win without the thread ever reopeneing, but instead we kinda had that last abortion of a day. Sorry for that.

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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:55 pm

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Im gonna kick regs ass

How much did I scream GREY AND LLD GREY AND LLD GREY AND LLD

GRRRRRR

Oh well. I had you two backwards.

BUT GRRRR.
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:57 pm

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http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/sjechEvZB78p

That's my Quicktopic.

It'll explain an awful fucking lot. Especially those nitwits Ghostlin and Bobsnox claiming to each other day 1 where I could see them...
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:58 pm

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Spoiler: Setup
8 Entrepreneur
2 Mafia Cartel Member
2 Mafia Zaibatsu Member
1 Communist Saboteur

The Mafia Cartel and Mafia Zaibatsu were entirely identical, except for their name.

1.
IceGuy
- Mafia Cartel Member
2.
Voidedmafia
(
RedCoyote
)
- Entrepreneur
3.
Ethos
(
Regfan
)
- Entrepreneur
4.
Lady Lambdadelta
(
bobsnox
)
- Mafia Cartel Member
5.
PeregrineV
- Entrepreneur
6.
GreyICE
(
Midnight's Sorrow
)
- Communist Saboteur
7.
HellloooNewman
- Entrepreneur
8.
WeyounsLastClone
- Mafia Zaibatsu Member
9.
hiphop
- Entrepreneur
10.
Seacore
- Entrepreneur
11.
ChaosOmega
- Entrepreneur
12.
Ghostlin
- Mafia Zaibatsu Member
13.
malpascp
- Entrepreneur


Spoiler: Entrepreneur Role PM
You’ve done well for yourself in business. You’ve seen the market reward those (like yourself) who innovate, and punish those who stagnate. But lately, you’ve detected that all is not well in the market. Some of your fellow entrepreneurs have been winding up dead -- not the normal sort of hostile takeover. Someone’s attempting to corner the market, and you need to stop them.

You are an
Entrepreneur
.

Nest Egg:
You start the game with $100.
Wage:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $50.
Efficiency Bonus:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $5 for every full 24 hours that remained until deadline (since deadline is 14 real life days, this bonus will be between $65 and $0).
Grow Your Business:
Once per Night, if you activated no abilities during the previous Day and you activate no abilities during this Night, you may choose one ability you possess that has more than one use remaining; you gain another use of that ability.

You win with the
Town
: You win when all the players alive have the Town win condition, and there is at least one player alive.


Spoiler: Mafia Cartel Member Role PM
People like to talk about the Free Market and how it rewards the best. You know better. There’s strength in numbers, and there’s power in being a part of a cartel. That’s why you’ve teamed up with another likeminded individual; together, you’re going to put the screws to this market for all it’s worth...

You are a
Mafia Cartel Member
, along with your partner XXX.

Nest Egg:
You start the game with $150.
Wage:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $125. If you are the only member of your team alive, you will instead receive $200.
Efficiency Bonus:
You do not receive an efficiency bonus.
Daytalk:
You may speak with your partner in the Quicktopic here at any time.
Improved Transfer:
You may use the Transfer action (see Section IV) to transfer money to your partner and have it arrive immediately, instead of arriving the next Day. You may also do this at Night. All other normal rules of Transfer (specifically, the 5% fee) still apply.
Under The Table Dealings:
At any time, you may give the mod a message; it will be transmitted (anonymously) to all other players who do not have the Town win condition. You know that all win conditions in this game are mutually exclusive (there is no way you can draw or win with anyone else who receives this message).
There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch:
You do not possess a factional Night-kill. In order to kill that Night, you must win the Night-kill auction during the Day.
Fakeclaim:
The Entrepreneur Role PM is posted in the thread. If you give me specific game information, I will write the relevant PM for you incorporating those elements.

You win with the
Mafia Cartel
: You win when all the players alive are from your team (or nothing can prevent the same), and there is at least one player alive.


Spoiler: Mafia Zaibatsu Member Role PM
People like to talk about the Free Market and how it rewards the best. You know better. There’s strength in numbers, and there’s power in being a part of a zaibatsu. That’s why you’ve teamed up with another likeminded individual; together, you’re going to put the screws to this market for all it’s worth...

You are a
Mafia Zaibatsu Member
, along with your partner XXX.

Nest Egg:
You start the game with $150.
Wage:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $125. If you are the only member of your team alive, you will instead receive $200.
Efficiency Bonus:
You do not receive an efficiency bonus.
Daytalk:
You may speak with your partner in the Quicktopic here at any time.
Improved Transfer:
You may use the Transfer action (see Section IV) to transfer money to your partner and have it arrive immediately, instead of arriving the next Day. You may also do this at Night. All other normal rules of Transfer (specifically, the 5% fee) still apply.
Under The Table Dealings:
At any time, you may give the mod a message; it will be transmitted (anonymously) to all other players who do not have the Town win condition. You know that all win conditions in this game are mutually exclusive (there is no way you can draw or win with anyone else who receives this message).
There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch:
You do not possess a factional Night-kill. In order to kill that Night, you must win the Night-kill auction during the Day.
Fakeclaim:
The Entrepreneur Role PM is posted in the thread. If you give me specific game information, I will write the relevant PM for you incorporating those elements.

You win with the
Mafia Zaibatsu
: You win when all the players alive are from your team (or nothing can prevent the same), and there is at least one player alive.


Spoiler: Communist Saboteur Role PM
Kick it over, bourgeoisie pig! Smash the system! The proletariat is the source of all wealth, so all wealth to the proletariat! Destroy the capitalist fetters!

You are a
Communist Saboteur (Serial Killer)
.

Nest Egg:
You start the game with $50.
Wage:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $0 (no money).
Efficiency Bonus:
At the end of every Day, you will receive $5 for every full 24 hours that remained until deadline (since deadline is 14 real life days, this bonus will be between $65 and $0).
Quicktopic:
Although you do not have any partners, a Quicktopic is provided here as a convenience to communicate with the mod instead of using PMs. Use of this Quicktopic is entirely optional.
Strength of the Proletariat:
You are immune to the first kill attempt on you. You will be alerted when this occurs. This will happen automatically, and does not need to be activated. If something else would stop the kill anyway, this is not used up (it is the last line of defense, not the first).
The Fruits of Their Labor:
If the Day has an auction from Advertising (see Section V), you will receive one usage of that ability automatically. You may still win that auction as normal.
The Wages of Sin:
Once per Day, you may PM the mod the name of an auction that has not yet ended, and that you are not the current highest bidder on. You gain an amount of money equal to its current highest bid. You may not bid on this auction for its remainder. This will be announced in-thread (anonymously).
Outside the System:
You may not use the Invest action (see Section IV), and you may not spend money on Advertising (see Section V).
Under The Table Dealings:
At any time, you may give the mod a message; it will be transmitted (anonymously) to all other players who do not have the Town win condition. You know that all win conditions in this game are mutually exclusive (there is no way you can draw or win with anyone else who receives this message).
There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch:
You do not possess an innate Night-kill. In order to kill that Night, you must win the Night-kill auction during the Day.
Fakeclaim:
The Entrepreneur Role PM is posted in the thread. If you give me specific game information, I will write the relevant PM for you incorporating those elements.

You win as a
Serial Killer
: You win when you are the only player alive (or nothing can prevent the same), or when all players are dead.


Spoiler: Quicktopics


Spoiler: D1
Actions

hiphop
Invests
$20 at the beginning of D1 (will receive $30 at the start of D2)
HellloooNewman
Invests
$50 8 hours into D1 (will receive $75 8 hours into D2)
Midnight's Sorrow
uses
Wages of Sin
on 8. Night-kill x 1; gains $50
Ghostlin
Invests
$50 31 hours into D1 (will receive $75 31 hours into D2)
bobsnox
Transfers
$58 to
IceGuy
;
IceGuy
receives $55
ChaosOmega
Invests
$100 60 hours into D1 (will receive $150 60 hours into D2)
bobsnox
Invests
$92 62 hours into D1 (will receive $138 62 hours into D2)
Ghostlin
Advertises
Doctor for $10
HellloooNewman
uses
Oracle

WeyounsLastClone
Invests
$50 69 hours into D1 (will receive $75 69 hours into D2)
Ghostlin
Invests
$55 96 hours into D1 (will receive $82 96 hours into D2)
RedCoyote
Invests
$99 148 hours into D1 (will receive $147 148 hours into D2)

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
1Cop x 27 days5095
WeyounsLastClone
malpascp
($60),
malpascp
($90),
WeyounsLastClone
($99),
malpascp
($95)
2Doctor x 25 days4040
Seacore
Seacore
($49)
3Extra Vote x 23 days1040
IceGuy
malpascp
($25),
Ghostlin
($15),
Ghostlin
($30),
hiphop
($29),
malpascp
($35),
hiphop
($39),
IceGuy
($63)
4Governor x 15 days3031
Ethos
Midnight's Sorrow
($30),
Ethos
($40)
5Investigation Immunity x 45 days2525
IceGuy
hiphop
($38),
IceGuy
($43)
6Last Will x 33 days2529
Ghostlin
Ghostlin
($30),
RedCoyote
($29)
7Neighborizer x 35 days2020
Ethos
Ethos
($35)
8Night-kill x 17 days50100
IceGuy
PeregrineV
($99),
hiphop
($76),
IceGuy
($137)
9Oracle x 23 days1020
HellloooNewman
HellloooNewman
($24),
Midnight's Sorrow
($20)
10Setup Information x 33 days1041
Seacore
Seacore
($49),
HellloooNewman
($24),
Midnight's Sorrow
($25),
Midnight's Sorrow
($30),
HellloooNewman
($41)
11Vote Nullifier x 13 days2535
Midnight's Sorrow
Ghostlin
($25),
Midnight's Sorrow
($36),
Ghostlin
($35)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
IceGuy
$162Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Night-kill x 1
RedCoyote
$90Gains $147 148 hours into D2
Ethos
$137Governor x 1, Neighborizer x 3Replaces
Regfan
bobsnox
$125Gains $138 62 hours into D2
PeregrineV
$189
Midnight's Sorrow
$100Vote Nullifier x 1
HellloooNewman
$117Oracle x 1Gains $75 8 hours into D2
WeyounsLastClone
N/ACop x 2Gains $75 69 hours into D2
hiphop
$166Gains $30 D2
Seacore
$107Setup Information x 3, Doctor x 2
ChaosOmega
$90Gains $150 60 hours into D2
Ghostlin
$200Last Will x 3Gains $75 31 hours into D2, $82 96 hours into D2
malpascp
$185


Spoiler: N1
IceGuy
uses
Night-kill
on
RedCoyote
: Fails (Doctor protect)
Ethos
uses
Neighborizer
on
RedCoyote
: Success (QT created)
Seacore
uses
Doctor
on
RedCoyote
: Success (protects against kill)
Ghostlin
uses
Last Will
on
RedCoyote
: Success


Spoiler: D2
Actions

Midnight's Sorrow
uses
Fruits of Their Labor
, gains Doctor x 1
hiphop
gains $30 from D1 investment
Seacore
uses
Setup Information
, asks "Are there more than two different win conditions among the role PMs sent to players?", receives back "Yes"
HellloooNewman
gains $75 from D1 investment
Seacore
Invests
$106 12 hours into D2, will receive $159 12 hours into D3
Ghostlin
gains $75 from D1 investment
Midnight's Sorrow
uses
Wages of Sin
on 17. Night-kill x 1, gains $190
Ghostlin
Invests
$75 47 hours into D2, will receive $112 47 hours into D3
HellloooNewman
uses
Oracle

ChaosOmega
gains $150 from D1 investment
bobsnox
gains $138 from D1 investment
Ghostlin
gains $82 from D1 investment
Ghostlin
Invests
$82 105 hours into D2, will receive $123 105 hours into D3
Lady Lambdadelta
Invests
$127 121 hours into D2, will receive $190 121 hours into D3
RedCoyote
gains $147 from D1 investment
GreyICE
Transfers
$97 to
RedCoyote
, will receive $92 start of D3
Ghostlin
's
Last Will
activates,
RedCoyote
receives $99, Last Will x 2, Tracker x 2

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
12Auction Detective x 25 days2581
Lady Lambdadelta
malpascp
($80),
Lady Lambdadelta
($50),
Lady Lambdadelta
($75),
Lady Lambdadelta
($150),
Ethos
($51)
13Commuter x 25 days2551
PeregrineV
HellloooNewman
($50),
PeregrineV
($188)
14Doctor x 25 days4040
malpascp
malpascp
($100)
15Love Potion x 15 days2525
Midnight's Sorrow
Midnight's Sorrow
($40),
Midnight's Sorrow
($91)
16Medium x 35 days2525
HellloooNewman
HellloooNewman
($50)
17Night-kill x 17 days50190
hiphop
HellloooNewman
($116),
hiphop
($195),
HellloooNewman
($190)
18Ninja x 43 days2551
bobsnox
Midnight's Sorrow
($50),
bobsnox
($106)
19Roleblocker x 35 days5084
IceGuy
HellloooNewman
($75),
Ethos
($83),
IceGuy
($161)
20Tracker x 23 days1010
Ghostlin
Ghostlin
($99)
21Watcher x 17 days20100
Ethos
Ghostlin
($99),
Ethos
($51),
RedCoyote
($50),
Ethos
($68),
Ethos
($83),
Ethos
($101)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
IceGuy
$202Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Roleblocker x 3
RedCoyote
$410Last Will x 2, Tracker x 2Receives $92 transfer start of D3
Ethos
$106Governor x 1, Neighborizer x 2, Watcher x 1Replaces
Regfan
Lady Lambdadelta
$125Auction Detective x 2, Ninja x 4Replaces
bobsnox
, gains $190 121 hours into D3
PeregrineV
$212Commuter x 2
GreyICE
$190Doctor x 1, Love Potion x 1, Vote Nullifier x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
HellloooNewman
$237Medium x 3
hiphop
$80Night-kill x 1
Seacore
$76Doctor x 1, Setup Information x 2Gains $159 12 hours into D3
ChaosOmega
$315
Ghostlin
N/AGains $112 47 hours into D3, $133 74 hours into D3, $123 105 hours into D3
malpascp
$218Doctor x 2


Spoiler: N2
IceGuy
uses
Roleblock
on
Voidedmafia
: Success (blocks Tracker)
IceGuy
Transfers
$202 to
Lady Lambdadelta
:
Lady Lambdadelta
receives $191
Voidedmafia
uses
Tracker
on
IceGuy
: "Ability failed" (roleblocked)
Ethos
uses
Neighborizer
on
GreyICE
: Success (added to QT)
Ethos
uses
Watcher
on
hiphop
: "No one visited
hiphop
"
hiphop
uses
Night-kill
on
IceGuy
: Success (
IceGuy
dies)
Seacore
uses
Doctor
on
Ethos
: No effect
malpascp
uses
Doctor
on
Voidedmafia
: No effect


Spoiler: D3
Actions

Voidedmafia
receives $92 from D2 transfer (
GreyICE
)
Voidedmafia
Invests
$100, will receive $150 6 hours into D4
Seacore
uses
Setup Information
, asks "Do members of the Mafia Zaibatsu and/or Mafia Cartel factions have the ability to take money from the Marketplace?", gets back "No"
hiphop
Invests
$79, will receive $118 25 hours into D4
Seacore
gains $159 from D2 investment
ChaosOmega
Transfers
$315 to
hiphop
,
hiphop
will receive $299 D4
GreyICE
uses
Wages of Sin
on 28. Night-kill x 1, gains $212
Lady Lambdadelta
gains $190 from D2 investment

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
22Accountant x 33 days1082
GreyICE
hiphop
($79),
Ethos
($80),
GreyICE
($178),
Ethos
($82)
23Blind Bid x 15 days2525
Seacore
Seacore
($50)
24Bulletproof x 23 days4040
malpascp
malpascp
($60)
25Federal Reserve Chairman x 15 days1010
GreyICE
GreyICE
($10)
26Gravedigger x 17 days40116
GreyICE
Lady Lambdadelta
($115),
GreyICE
($210)
27Hitman x 25 days5050
Voidedmafia
Voidedmafia
($75)
28Night-kill x 17 days50212
Voidedmafia
Lady Lambdadelta
($200),
Voidedmafia
($150),
Voidedmafia
($175),
PeregrineV
($211),
Voidedmafia
($300)
29Vote Freezer x 15 days2525
Lady Lambdadelta
Lady Lambdadelta
($25)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
Voidedmafia
$241Hitman x 2, Last Will x 2, Night-kill x 1, Tracker x 1Replaces
RedCoyote
, gains $150 6 hours into D4
Ethos
$188Governor x 1, Neighborizer x 1Replaces
Regfan
Lady Lambdadelta
$678Auction Detective x 2, Ninja x 4, Vote Freezer x 1Replaces
bobsnox
PeregrineV
N/ACommuter x 2
GreyICE
$246Accountant x 3, Doctor x 1, Federal Reserve Chairman x 1, Gravedigger x 1, Love Potion x 1, Vote Nullifier x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
HellloooNewman
$342Medium x 3
hiphop
$105Gains $299 D4 from transfer (
ChaosOmega
), gains $118 25 hours into D4
Seacore
$314Blind Bid x 1, Setup Information x 1
ChaosOmega
$105
malpascp
$282Bulletproof x 2, Doctor x 1


Spoiler: N3
Voidedmafia
uses
Night-kill
on
ChaosOmega
: Success (
ChaosOmega
dies)
Voidedmafia
uses
Tracker
on
HellloooNewman
: "
HellloooNewman
visited
ChaosOmega
"
Ethos
uses
Neighborizer
on
hiphop
: Success (added to QT)
HellloooNewman
uses
Medium
on
ChaosOmega
: Success (Ghost QT created)
malpascp
uses
Grow Your Business
on Bulletproof: Gains extra Bulletproof usage


Spoiler: D4
Actions

hiphop
gains $299 from D3 transfer (
ChaosOmega
)
GreyICE
uses
Fruits of Their Labor
, gains Cop x 1
Voidedmafia
gains $150 from D3 investment
hiphop
gains $118 from D3 investment
Seacore
uses
Setup Information
, asks "Is there a win condition not shared by Zaibatsu, Cartel or Entrepreneurs?", receives "Yes"
hiphop
Invests
$100, will receive $150 54 hours into D5
hiphop
Transfers
$106 to
GreyICE
,
GreyICE
will receive $100 at the start of D5
GreyICE
uses
Federal Reserve Chairman
, everyone gains $200
Seacore
Invests
$514, will receive $771 71 hours into D5
GreyICE
uses
Wages of Sin
on 32. Night-kill x 1, gains $520

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
30Cop x 27 days50350
Ethos
Ethos
($121),
HellloooNewman
($349),
Ethos
($310),
Ethos
($385)
31Forensic Accountant x 25 days25100
Voidedmafia
Voidedmafia
($150),
hiphop
($100),
Voidedmafia
($350)
32Night-kill x 17 days50520
Lady Lambdadelta
Lady Lambdadelta
($550),
hiphop
($300),
HellloooNewman
($341),
hiphop
($520),
Lady Lambdadelta
($750)
33Peace Treaty x 15 days25300
HellloooNewman
Voidedmafia
($50),
hiphop
($100),
HellloooNewman
($190),
GreyICE
($151),
GreyICE
($215),
HellloooNewman
($538),
GreyICE
($300)
34Roleblocker x 35 days50510
GreyICE
Lady Lambdadelta
($100),
hiphop
($150),
Lady Lambdadelta
($124),
hiphop
($400),
hiphop
($509),
GreyICE
($435),
GreyICE
($649)
35Wage Freeze x 13 days1011
GreyICE
Voidedmafia
($10),
GreyICE
($49)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
Voidedmafia
$572Forensic Accountant x 2, Hitman x 2, Last Will x 2Replaces
RedCoyote
Ethos
$120Cop x 2, Governor x 1Replaces
Regfan
Lady Lambdadelta
$554Auction Detective x 2, Night-kill x 1, Ninja x 4, Vote Freezer x 1Replaces
bobsnox
GreyICE
$474Accountant x 3, Cop x 1, Doctor x 1, Gravedigger x 1, Love Potion x 1, Roleblocker x 3, Vote Nullifier x 1, Wage Freeze x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
, receives $100 transfer (
hiphop
)
HellloooNewman
$323Medium x 2, Peace Treaty x 1
hiphop
$594Gains $150 54 hours into D5
Seacore
$85Blind Bid x 1Gains $771 71 hours into D5
malpascp
N/ABulletproof x 3, Doctor x 1


Spoiler: N4
Voidedmafia
uses
Forensic Accountant
on
IceGuy
: "
IceGuy
won the following auctions: D1: 3. Extra Vote x 2, D1: 5. Investigation Immunity x 4,
D1: 8. Night-kill x 1,
D2: 19. Roleblocker x 3" (text in red was originally omitted due to moderation error)
Ethos
uses
Cop
on
Lady Lambdadelta
: "Ability failed" (roleblocked)
GreyICE
uses
Accountant
on
Lady Lambdadelta
: "$554"
GreyICE
uses
Cop
on
Ethos
: "Not Mafia"
GreyICE
uses
Gravedigger
on
IceGuy
: Received Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Roleblocker x 2
GreyICE
uses
Roleblocker
on
Ethos
: Success (blocks Cop report)


Spoiler: D5
Actions

GreyICE
receives $100 from D4 transfer (
hiphop
)
hiphop
receives $150 from D4 investment
Seacore
receives $771 from D4 investment
hiphop
Invests
$300, will receive $450 84 hours into D6

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
36Doctor x 25 days4061
GreyICE
Voidedmafia
($60),
GreyICE
($220)
37Hitman x 25 days5050
Seacore
Seacore
($855)
38Last Will x 33 days2525
HellloooNewman
HellloooNewman
($299)
39Night-kill x 17 days5050
GreyICE
GreyICE
($350),
Voidedmafia
($50)
40Tracker x 23 days1070
hiphop
Voidedmafia
($30),
hiphop
($500),
Voidedmafia
($70)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
Voidedmafia
$668Forensic Accountant x 1, Hitman x 2, Last Will x 2Replaces
RedCoyote
Ethos
$220Cop x 1, Governor x 1Replaces
Regfan
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N/AAuction Detective x 2, Night-kill x 1, Ninja x 4, Vote Freezer x 1Replaces
bobsnox
GreyICE
$511Accountant x 2, Doctor x 3, Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Love Potion x 1, Night-kill x 1, Roleblocker x 5, Vote Nullifier x 1, Wage Freeze x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
HellloooNewman
$397Last Will x 3, Medium x 2
hiphop
$473Tracker x 2Receives $450 84 hours into D6
Seacore
$905Blind Bid x 1, Hitman x 2


Spoiler: N5
Voidedmafia
uses
Forensic Accountant
on
Lady Lambdadelta
: "
Lady Lambdadelta
won the following auctions: D2: 12. Auction Detective x 2, D2: 18. Ninja x 4, D3: 29. Vote Freezer x 1, D4: 32. Night-kill x 1"
HellloooNewman
uses
Last Will
on
hiphop

hiphop
uses
Tracker
on
Voidedmafia
: "
Voidedmafia
visited
Lady Lambdadelta
"


Spoiler: D6
Actions

Ethos
uses
Governor
on
Seacore

Ethos
Advertises
Tracker for $19
hiphop
Transfers
$449 to
GreyICE
;
GreyICE
will receive $426 D7
hiphop
Transfers
$25 to
GreyICE
;
GreyICE
will receive $22 D7 ($448 total)
hiphop
gains $450 from D5 investment
Ethos
Transfers
$200 to
Seacore
;
Seacore
will receive $190 D7
HellloooNewman
Transfers
$397 to
Seacore
;
Seacore
will receive $377 D7 ($567 total)

Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
41Commuter x 25 days2525
Voidedmafia
Voidedmafia
($35)
42Gravedigger x 17 days4040
Seacore
Seacore
($700)
43Night-kill x 17 days50101
GreyICE
Voidedmafia
($100),
GreyICE
($357)
44Watcher x 17 days20200
hiphop
hiphop
($449),
GreyICE
($200)


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
Voidedmafia
$726Commuter x 2, Hitman x 2, Last Will x 2Replaces
RedCoyote
Ethos
$85Cop x 1Replaces
Regfan
GreyICE
$443Accountant x 2, Doctor x 3, Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Love Potion x 1, Night-kill x 2, Roleblocker x 4, Vote Nullifier x 1, Wage Freeze x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
, gains $448 D7 from transfer (
hiphop
)
HellloooNewman
$85Last Will x 2, Medium x 2
hiphop
$N/ATracker x 1, Watcher x 1
Seacore
$949Blind Bid x 1, Gravedigger x 1, Hitman x 2Gains $567 D7 from transfer (
Ethos
,
HellloooNewman
)


Spoiler: N6
Voidedmafia
uses
Commuter

GreyICE
uses
Accountant
on
Voidedmafia
: "Ability failed" (Commuter)
GreyICE
uses
Love Potion
on
Voidedmafia
: Failed (Commuter)
GreyICE
uses
Night-kill
on
Seacore
:
Seacore
dies
HellloooNewman
uses
Last Will
on
Seacore
: No effect (
Seacore
dies)
HellloooNewman
uses
Medium
on
Ethos
: No effect (
Ethos
did not die)
Seacore
uses
Gravedigger
on
Lady Lambdadelta
: Receives Auction Detective x 2, Night-kill x 1, Ninja x 4, Vote Freezer x 1


Spoiler: D7
Actions

GreyICE
receives
Tracker x 1
from
Fruit of Their Labor

GreyICE
receives $449 from
Transfer
(
hiphop
)
GreyICE
activates
Extra Vote


Auctions

#NameLengthMinimum BidWinning BidWinnerBid History
43Night-kill x 17 days50151
GreyICE
Voidedmafia
($150),
GreyICE
($892)
44Tracker x 23 days10---


End State

NameMoneyAbilitiesNotes
Voidedmafia
$725Commuter x 1, Hitman x 2, Last Will x 2Replaces
RedCoyote
GreyICE
$740Accountant x 1, Doctor x 3, Extra Vote x 2, Investigation Immunity x 4, Night-kill x 1, Roleblocker x 4, Tracker x 1, Vote Nullifier x 1, Wage Freeze x 1Replaces
Midnight's Sorrow
HellloooNewman
$85Last Will x 1, Medium x 1
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:58 pm

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Voidedmafia wrote:Though, I don't see why we couldn't have had a night phase, since there was still a chance to kill the last guy.


GreyICE outbid you on the Nightkill. He had the only Nightkills in the game, so no chance of him dying.

GreyICE wrote:In case you were wondering, there was a love potion that prevented Voidedmafia for voting for me on the last day, so I was actually entirely unlynchable.


There was no Love Potion on Voidedmafia; his Commuter had roleblocked it. You could've been lynched the last Day. =P
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:01 pm

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In case it's not blindingly clear, here are the QTs (they're posted in one of the many spoilers up above):

Mafia Cartel QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/kptyV5mF8wtP
Mafia Zaibatsu QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TuCWZB8wncGG
Serial killer QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/jechEvZB78p
Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/uDhXNYFLCdBMS

Neighbor (
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,
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:02 pm

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Magua, great idea, great setup, great everything. I am so proud.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:03 pm

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Also, Grey, great play. Seriously.
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:06 pm

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Moral of this game: ALWAYS SUSPECT GREYICE NO MATTER WHAT.
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:17 pm

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I'm pretty sure I was the one who went "you know the Communist's chances of winning aren't that high" in the setup phase.
Regardless, it was awesome to watch this game unfold.
Mafia got rolled just like last time.

And I have NO IDEA why you guys claimed to each other.
That just had BAD MOVE written all over it.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:20 pm

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Mod thoughts:

Under the Table Dealings:
So all of the antitown roles could communicate anonymously. The idea was that they could use this to maneuver around any breaking strategies the Town might come up with. Actually usage was a little different: bobsnox and Ghostlin both claimed who they were via UTTD messages D1. This proved particularly problematic for Ghostlin because after WeyounsLastClone was lynched, he was still outted to the other mafia. This meant that Lady Lambdadelta (who replaced bobsnox) and GreyICE both actually knew that Ghostlin was mafia D2, and GreyICE knew that Lady Lambdadelta was mafia after that. GreyICE and LLD do use the UTTD messages to collaborate D4/D5ish in terms of who does what, but it's a pretty one-sided relationship since LLD knows that she's outted.

Setup Information:
Yeah, this sucked. I never figured that it'd make it to massclaim, and the gamebreaking of it at that point was pretty obvious. I talked with Andrius about changes to it as early as D3, IIRC, but did not actually step in to do anything until it was *actually* used to try to break the game. I guess I figured if I waited, maybe Seacore would've asked a non-breaking question like he did on D4. I like the idea of town being able to glean parts of the setup, but in future versions it would need to be a lot more limited -- maybe to specific pre-determined pieces of information or something.

Investment:
Oh, boy, 50% return was broken. Although it was intended that some people would do nothing but invest, it wasn't the intention that *so many* people would do this thing, and the investment returns just became obscene at the end -- Seacore wins for investing $514 D4, getting him $771 D5. Similarly, had Ghostlin (who invested most of his money D2), lived to D3 instead of being lynched, he would've had more than $600, more than double the next leading player. This needed to be much lower or removed entirely.

Advertising:
I'm still surprised this got so little used. Even when GreyICE pushed for things to be Advertised (because he'd get a free usage of that ability), it never really happened. This was put in so that the Town could play around the unpredictability of the marketplace, or that the mafia could drain Town's money by Advertising things like "Investigation Immunity" or "Ninja" and then forcing Town to counter-Advertise. Just mostly got ignored, though.

Moderation Error:
If you missed it, when Voidedmafia used Forensic Accountant on IceGuy, I had omitted that IceGuy won the Night-kill auction from D1. There was a second moderation error when GreyICE Gravedigger'ed IceGuy and I gave him one too many Roleblocker usages, but I didn't announce that one publicly (but you can see it in the Communist Saboteur QT).

Overall:

A
BIG THANK YOU
to my replacements. I'm glad I only ever had to find three, and I'm glad each and every one of you stepped up. I seriously owe you.

D1 through N2 was just complete and total town domination. I have to say, kudos to the town here, because you really took the scum to task during this period.

A stunning turnaround for GreyICE, who replaced into "a challenging slot" only to discover he was a Serial Killer without a kill who was at L-1.

Overall, a game I am happy to have modded for all of you.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:25 pm

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As I've said before, keep Investment.
Lower the rate of return though.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:28 pm

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What were the mafia thinking when they claimed scum to one another?
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:36 pm

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Lost Butterfly wrote:What were the mafia thinking when they claimed scum to one another?


That;s what I WANNA KNOW.

Iceguy/Bob/WLC/Ghostlin lost this game for themselves >.>
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:36 pm

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Also, this from N1:

IceGuy uses Night-kill on RedCoyote: Fails (Doctor protect)
Ethos uses Neighborizer on RedCoyote: Success (QT created)
Seacore uses Doctor on RedCoyote: Success (protects against kill)
Ghostlin usesLast Will on RedCoyote: Success

RedCoyote is one popular mofo.

IceGuy was originally going to kill Ethos. I was sad when he changed his mind. =P
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:11 am

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Just... well, it was probabilly the most exciting game I ever played. I continued following it like I would if I were alive.

Congratz to Magua, this is just awesome. I'm defenitivelly /in for the next one.

Also congratz to town, who did a good job early on the game (we started loosing when you lynched me :D)

Obviouslly, congratz to GreyICE YOU BASTARD ;)
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:35 am

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GI, that was some SLICK play from you bro. Congrats, you deserve the win.

Magua, well modded game, and it was TREMENDOUSLY fun to play. Pre in me if you do another. Well done.

The suspicion on me was my own damn fault. I learned a great lesson from this game (re: the fiasco about what I spent my money on, etc). NEVER LIE AS TOWN!! Fuck me, my laziness really screwed me over.
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:29 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Lost Butterfly wrote:What were the mafia thinking when they claimed scum to one another?


That;s what I WANNA KNOW.

Iceguy/Bob/WLC/Ghostlin lost this game for themselves >.>


And I want to know why the fuck you didn't read the scum QT when replacing in, spent the money earmarked for the NK on Auction Detective, and generally broke our strategy making a Cartel win practically impossible.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:47 am

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Grey, you played outstandingly, you really did. There were a lot of points where Slaxx and I would consider you being mafia but your play was good enough to make us always list you as town and move on to looking elsewhere. Congrats on the win, especially after the position you were in upon replacing in.

Wasn't mine or Slaxxs best game but at the end of the day but I wouldn't consider it my worst either. There's not too much about my play that I regret, the only thing I wish I did more was insist upon no one voting and hammering more often though I'll learn from that I'm sure.

Magua, you are a troll and I never will join your games again. What sort of mod gives me a win condition that lets me only win if I am last alive with money when I get no income!
Thanks for the game though, it was a blast overall.
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:55 am

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Wow, great play GreyIce! And Magua, thanks for this great set-up and modding, although I could only play a little part in it. I wasn't too big a fan of outing ourselves to the other team, but I'm too easily convinced :-)

I do feel the lynch on me was a bit lucky, but I guess I could've participated more/better to prevent that.
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:18 am

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The biggest gamble for me was day 2. MS had already claimed to bid on an auction he clearly couldn't have bid on, and thus was obviously scum. He also wanted a ninja for no comprehensible reason. Furthermore, I was pretty much at L-1, and if I wasn't lynched, was going to die.

The 1v1 with Ghostlin was my big gamble. I knew from the UTTD that the last will would toss it to RC/Voided, and that the cop was actually on WLC. With the cop NOT showing up on the scumbag, my claim of 'shenanigans' regarding the cop bid did make it look like scum 'sekret powahs,' especially since NO ONE SANE would claim to bid $97 on an auction that went for $95, scum or town. Claiming I didn't bid on the Ninja he bid on (He really did bid on it) made his play look even MORE skitzo, and helped sell the 'he didn't immediately counterclaim scum' insanity. I had to gamble Ghostlin would react exactly like scum, but he had no idea what was going on (since the mysterious scum power I claimed obviously didn't exist, so he was like 'waaaaaaaa'), and reacted exactly like caught scum.

Throw in me shipping 'all my money' to Voided, and I had my fingers crossed I'd move from day 2 as 'L-1, lets lynch him' to 'nigh-confirmed town.' Or, well, get lynched, but if I didn't do something dramatic that would happen ANYWAY. After that it was a matter of doing exactly what Ghostlin accused me of in the QT (bussing LLD without voting for her or trying to get her lynched in any strong way) and letting the town drag me to weird places.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:21 am

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Everything after that was fairly typical scumplay :P
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:31 am

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I repeat: ALWAYS SUSPECT GREYICE, NO MATTER WHAT!

YOU WILL THANK ME FOR MAKING YOU PROPERLY PARANOID!
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