Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

[Neruz]

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I don't even...

[Ellibereth]

Beck

Someone Competent
Why are people calling hip an easy target and shit?
Like 1 or 2 quick points why he's the largest wagon.
I have a theory.

Fixed

[Thomith]

Also what is your theory?

[Ellibereth]

Shut up.
I'm done with you for now.

[Beck]

I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI

[Ellibereth]

As has been mentioned, his refusal to vote hiphop makes him not look scum, could be WIFOM of course but it would have been very tempting indeed as scum to vote hiphop.

As above, thoom had an easy target in hiphop, and didn’t go for that one.

Beck I think there's a fair chance Thomith is faking incompetence.
He wants an excuse to call a top wagon town so that when it does flip town he can go all "LOLLOOKIWASRIGHT".
The qualifier there is hip being town though, like I don't really care if he is easy or whateve, why do people think he's scum. Thomith's "because he wrote a case on me" is shit.

[Neruz]

I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI

The thing with hiplop is he is an experienced player and thom is scummy, clearly if I can make a wall on him, he is obviously scummy do

he is an easy target

if he is town. If he is scum, he won't last til end game.

Let's just agree that thom is scummy, but let him not be lynched d1

So question to hip, has anyone else garnished your attention as being scummy and you would be intersted in voting?

If yes, who and explain why they are scummy.

[Neruz]

Wait, ignore previous rage, i misread Beck's post.

[Thomith]

Thomith's "because he wrote a case on me" is shit.

I said he is town because he seems to be focusing souly on me, not because he wrote a case on me.

[Neruz]

Can we please start using the preview button to make sure all our tags are working properly so we don't get shit like that?

Fix'd

[Beck]

I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI

The thing with hiplop is he is an experienced player and thom is scummy, clearly if I can make a wall on him, he is obviously scummy do

he is an easy target

if he is town. If he is scum, he won't last til end game.

Let's just agree that thom is scummy, but let him not be lynched d1

So question to hip, has anyone else garnished your attention as being scummy and you would be intersted in voting?

If yes, who and explain why they are scummy.

Again with the reading, hip is attacking thom, cause THOM IS AN EASY TARGET

The HIM/HE is Thom, not hip

[Neruz]

I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI

The thing with hiplop is he is an experienced player and thom is scummy, clearly if I can make a wall on him, he is obviously scummy do

he is an easy target

if he is town. If he is scum, he won't last til end game.

Let's just agree that thom is scummy, but let him not be lynched d1

So question to hip, has anyone else garnished your attention as being scummy and you would be intersted in voting?

If yes, who and explain why they are scummy.

Again with the reading, hip is attacking thom, cause THOM IS AN EASY TARGET

The HIM/HE is Thom, not hip

*Cough*

Wait, ignore previous rage, i misread Beck's post.

[Beck]

oh lol

[Evil Bullet]

unvote, vote: Voided

I just replaced into [REDACTED] and noticed that voided again chose not to vote in RVS but he completely ignored that choice and just passed over it without a comment. So I was like ok he's scum either in this game or that game. I read more of his games and this is the only game I've seen where he attempted to justify his choice not to participate in RVS. So. Lynch plz

[Thomith]

You are really voting people who refuse to vote in RVS now?

[Beck]

You are really voting people who refuse to vote in RVS now?

Is void a scum or town read for you? And explain why

[Thomith]

Null leaning Town-
Hiphop

Although of course i find him scummy for starting the wagon on me i honestly don't think scum would lead a wagon on a mislynch on day one, as after the flip they would look scummy as hell.

Voided

I find admitting to mistakes a Town tell for some reason, although i also find sheeping a null tell but voided is leaning town because he seems to use his own logic in his posts.

Although it is more of a null read now.

[Beck]

Wait, what did he apologize for?

[Rainbowdash]

From work post so again no pony pictures. I am sure most of you will be crushed.

unvote
Vote Voided

Change of pace time. Will explain this after work, a forewarning, I work late today.

[Thomith]

Wait, what did he apologize for?

voting me with no reason

[Beck]

Wait, what did he apologize for?

voting me with no reason

This doesn't look like no reason to me, this was posted right before his vote. He votes you for defending neroz

See, the thing is, we actually have a good reason to suspect Neruz, and your defense of him is both indirectly implicating him as being scum and making you out to be a suspect as well.

Besides, I don't think you or Neruz have really explained why he would call you scummy and then vote someone else because coming up with a seemingly legit case (however small it was) and the trying to mask things under the guise of RVS smells REALLY fishy.

Another thing that bugs me

EBWOP: Not really substantial enough for a vote, but good enough for saying that in jest.

This reads it's not serious enough to vote you but good enough to joke about, so maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.

Void, can you explain better what you meant exactly by that comment because to me, it doesn't make sense.

[Voidedmafia]

As far as i am aware, while daytalk is not uncommon on MS, it's not the norm.

That's what I was getting at, there.

I was referring to it looked like coaching(in-game) to me because void just seems to accept what rainbow says with no other response back, just "ok" and moved on

What's so odd about it?

I asked a question for clarification, and I misused a tell in trying to point it how it could be used in the opposite direction (as in, being a scumtell instead of a towntell or vice-versa) (implying that I didn't know what it meant). Rainbow answered me/corrected me, I saw it to be logical, reasonable, and not anything to fret about, and I left it at that.

who coached who in game?

It looked like rainbow spoke, and void listened and accepted her posts with no real feedback. Maybe coaching was the wrong phrase but void's responses just didn't feel natural to me.

...Actually, I think coaching could apply here. I'm fairly sure it's not a scummy kind of coaching, though.

And again, I saw no reason to go further with that, even if I didn't say as much.

If a player says something and a second player just mindlessly agrees with the first player without adding anything to the discussion, that's sheeping. At least that's the definition i've always used.

Um, Neruz. "Accepting an answer" isn't the same as "mindlessly agreeing with someone". You CAN just say "ok" without sheeping, yknow.

yea

Vote: Voided

Why?

Why is hip the largest wagon.

assumingly because he made a case on me which others think is scummy, i however don't know why people think he is scum because i don't see scum motivation behind creating a mislynch wagon day 1.

Oh, god, don't be the VI this game, even if it's intentional...

(breaking up this catch up post. Pt.2 coming soon)

[Voidedmafia]

and why aren't you attacking me for voting Voided?

Why would i be?
also you miss my point, he has basically focused only on me, yes i have done some scummy things which he could use as a defense but i don't see why scum would be so strong in only focusing on one person the whole time unless it is a bus, which obviously i know it isn't.

You'd be surprised. Scum can be just as vehement about pushing a wagon as town is (of course, they kinda have to be, but I'm talking about the unnecessary tunneling-like kind of pushing, not the "push to a lynch" kind).

Town don't usually vote for no reasoning apart from in RVS, why would town vote for someone who they can't prove are scum? Wouldn't town want to find evidence before actually voting?

Not quite sure which of THomith's posts/points this is replying to. Mostly because it seems unrelated to Thomith's post just above this one.

Thomith's "because he wrote a case on me" is shit.

I said he is town because he seems to be focusing soley on me, not because he wrote a case on me.

FTFY. Also, tunneling is null in my book because town do it just as often as scum do. And more often than not, from what I've seen, it's either scum pushing a mislynch or town attacking the wrong person.

unvote, vote: Voided

I just replaced into [REDACTED] and noticed that voided again chose not to vote in RVS but he completely ignored that choice and just passed over it without a comment. So I was like ok he's scum either in this game or that game. I read more of his games and this is the only game I've seen where he attempted to justify his choice not to participate in RVS. So. Lynch plz

As I said, if you hadn't noticed I've gotten flak for just blatantly ignoring RVS (either literally not joining it or throwing out a basic "I'm not joining statement), so I'm trying to explain why I'm not before people get on my case for it, rather than explaining afterwards.

Actually, why are you even attacking this point at all? Kinda flimsy.

Also, do note that in most games where I haven't participated in RVS (only games I started, since most of my replace games were far enough past RVS for me to not be able to participate), I've been town.

From work post so again no pony pictures. I am sure most of you will be crushed.

unvote
Vote Voided

Change of pace time. Will explain this after work, a forewarning, I work late today.

I hope you will.

This is surprising largely because you actually haven't expressed interest in voting me before. What changed your mind?

Wait, what did he apologize for?

voting me with no reason

Clarification: No

original

reason. Both of my votes on you and Neruz had reasons for them, don't try to deny that.

Another thing that bugs me

EBWOP: Not really substantial enough for a vote, but good enough for saying that in jest.

This reads it's not serious enough to vote you but good enough to joke about, so maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.

Void, can you explain better what you meant exactly by that comment because to me, it doesn't make sense.

That's exactly what I meant. I was mainly making a joking comment about that line, hence that was good enough to say in jest, but I wasn't really trying to push anything or vote him, hence why it's not serious enough for a vote.

[Beck]

Voided, why not turn that "jest" into an rvs vote

You could have said something like "vote thom, cause this could be time number 5"

Instead your "jest" actually helped end rvs in a way because of neuruz's comments that came later.

Why joke but not joke vote?

[Beck]

And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody