Beck wrote:And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody
But this seems to be the lone reason of the voided wagon, i don't see how it is stable.
Beck wrote:And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody
Thomith wrote:Beck wrote:And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody
But this seems to be the lone reason of the voided wagon, i don't see how it is stable.
Thomith wrote:It is what most people are saying what they find Voided scummy for.
Beck wrote:And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody
Beck wrote:Voided, why not turn that "jest" into an rvs vote
Beck wrote:You could have said something like "vote thom, cause this could be time number 5"
Beck wrote:Instead your "jest" actually helped end rvs in a way because of neuruz's comments that came later.
Beck wrote:Why joke but not joke vote?
Beck wrote:Thomith wrote:Beck wrote:And for the record, I don't care if you RVS'd or not, that alone is never enough to lynch somebody
But this seems to be the lone reason of the voided wagon, i don't see how it is stable.
Are you sure about that?
hiphop wrote:I disagree with that completely.weirdvoigts wrote:For the most part, I agree with Alex that Rainbowdash is town, but it strikes me as very odd that she noticed Thomith's "softclaim." It's the kind of thing that townies aren't looking for, but scum are. In this game, mikemike778, a Mafia Goon, was the only one who noticed a Mason softclaim, and he brought it up because he thought everyone else had seen it too.
In this game, town-[Low Key] named all 3 masons day 2, and scum didn't have a clue before then.
Rainbowdash wrote:there are so few possibilites to go with Thomith well (outside of Beck, Parama, Ellibereth and VM who is there?)
But both you and Hiphop have good points regarding Thomith. Could be scum bussing a partner, or town getting a bit too defensive, but I'm willing to go out on a limb about it.
See, the thing is, we actually have a good reason to suspect Neruz, and your defense of him is both indirectly implicating him as being scum and making you out to be a suspect as well.
Besides, I don't think you or Neruz have really explained why he would call you scummy and then vote someone else because coming up with a seemingly legit case (however small it was) and the trying to mask things under the guise of RVS smells REALLY fishy.
Unvote, Vote: Thomith
Hip: I suppose that's also a point. Thomith is certainly digging a hole with his posts.
Oh, right, if I think you're scum. Had a post on that, then stupidly got it deleted by clicking on a bookmark. But anyways, I checked through the first couple pages up to when I switched to you, and I didn't really see much reason for me to vote you, so I'm gonnaUnvote.
I still hold Neruz in suspicion, but Evil Bullet is right in that we probably need to either look at things from a different angle or find another place to go to.
Perhaps if you phrase that into a question, instead of an assertion...Rainbowdash wrote: I really don't have much against him except for that one quote which he actually is still ignoring and he needs to answer. That is the one about "dirt work" and for deselby is the reason that the two of you are likely not going to be scum together on top of other stuff.
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hiphop wrote:Perhaps if you phrase that into a question, instead of an assertion...Rainbowdash wrote: I really don't have much against him except for that one quote which he actually is still ignoring and he needs to answer. That is the one about "dirt work" and for deselby is the reason that the two of you are likely not going to be scum together on top of other stuff.
I guess my terms don't fit your picture. My dad raises pigs, so you will just have to live with it.Rainbowdash wrote:Ehhh... not sure you are using that saying correctly. Dirty work implies somepony accomplishing something bad usually, not getting work done.
The first part I will have to think on. Though, I believe you may have hit the nail on the head on that one. And as for the second, I wouldn't say he is scum for that, just cautious. Even you were cautious as to who was town and who was scum here. And Eb, when he voted me, said your alliance is bound to have Poison in it. I would say that Deselby is more poking and prodding to see if scum would let him in.Rainbowdash wrote:I also read implosion and deselby. Implosion is still probably town for poking hornet nests, and would require Thomith-town and probably WV-scum to fit as scum, maybe not WV-scum but for sure Thomith-town, which you disagree with so he should be town to you. I see him as town regardless, but those are the scenarios needed to change that read. Deselby has some weird posts regarding third party WHICH THERE IS NONE OF, and is attacking my "one of two" posts in an odd way but essentially is trying to stop me from being able to call certain ponies town in light of others flipping scum, which I dislike quite a bit.
Rainbowdash wrote:I want implosion to come back here and say something.
How many contradictions can scum post in a day?Thomith wrote:@hiphop it wasn't him OMGUSing that was scummy, it was him not even reading the thread then deciding to OMGUS that was scummy.
also i voted you then realised that i was being an idiot and unvoted, because ihad you as a town read. Althoughi am not so sure on that read anymore, butyou are still a town read.
hiphop wrote:I just came up to the neselby thing, and I disagree with you Rainbow, just because he doesn't want to join your alliance, because he doesn't like your town reads, does not make him scum. In fact, the fact that he doesn't want to join your group, (a sure way for scum to advance in the game), makes him more townie than scum.
Makes sense,Rainbowdash wrote:Not my point against him. I was talking about a few pairings where its one or the other as scum, and he responded by pressuring for both to be scum without any reasoning. That just makes me feel like somepony who doesn't want others to ever be labled as town. Now that really only hold true if one of the two (hiphop/Neruz I think?) are scum, but it made me uncomforatable.
The smiley face I believe refers to this. A picture does say a thousand words. And think about it, if everyone else is lynched, and it comes down to you, deselby and Eb. Does he really want to come to that situation, especially when he couldn't do anything before then?Rainbowdash wrote:For attacking the alliance, he just said its a bad idea to make one of them. And used a simley face, supplemental tell. He is attacking the alliance because it might have scum in it, while the only pony in the alliance he really has any issue with appear to be EB whos "posts have been pretty good" and maybe Neruz? This appears to be more of an attempt to stop the alliance from actually forming then having a concrete reason that he distrusts the members of it.
You realize that I was trying for the opposite. I really wish you would consider Thomith.Rainbowdash wrote:I think you just singlehandedly may have convinced me to put delesby on the death list.
Right now im thinking - VoidedMafia + delesby + Sleuth
This is just scummy. Giving away meta, makes the meta null, because you recognize the fact that you do this as town, therefore you try to duplicate it as scum. And the fact that this is exactly what is happening makes you even more likely scum(if that is possible), then before.Voidedmafia wrote:Also, do note that in most games where I haven't participated in RVS (only games I started, since most of my replace games were far enough past RVS for me to not be able to participate), I've been town.