Evil Bullet wrote:Beck wrote:Evil Bullet wrote:Beck wrote:did somepony say parasprite?
This is the most vile form of buddying.
Or it's somebody who wanted to make a joke.
All posts lean in a certain direction. Even the ones that aren't intentionally serious.
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Beck =/= The band
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Season 8 soon. Can't wait... Although it may be a bit gimmicky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Vicodinsilverbullet999 and evilpacman18 hydra-
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I can show you a more accurate example of buddying, let's see how dismissive you can be
Look at it, RD. You're obvtown. I'm obvtown. We have a good thing going.
now THIS is blantant buddying
I posted a video I found when I googled what parasprite was
there is obvious difference between what I did and what you did.Beck =/= The band
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Evil Bullet wrote:Season 8 soon. Can't wait... Although it may be a bit gimmicky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Vicodin
I stopped watching last season cause it conflicted with something else, but I agree it is a good showBeck =/= The band
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Beck wrote:I can show you a more accurate example of buddying, let's see how dismissive you can be
Look at it, RD. You're obvtown. I'm obvtown. We have a good thing going.
now THIS is blantant buddying
I posted a video I found when I googled what parasprite was
there is obvious difference between what I did and what you did.
Not only posting the video. The "somepony." There's a difference between blatant buddying and vile buddying. And blatant and vile buddying. Yours is that one.silverbullet999 and evilpacman18 hydra-
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Evil Bullet wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:There are nottwo scum teams. There is not aSK. There is nocult.There is noboogeyman,santa orparasprite infestation.
Bolded is what we can be sure does not exist.
Yeah now thats right. I will explain all right before we actually lynch, and why its a slight town tell for Neruz to drop a few lines.
Will summarize the VM thing later, haven't had a chance to read much yet since last post and now look like im going to be busy for a few more hours.
For parasprites that episode should have everything that anypony needs to know about them and is quite a good one, despite the lack of that much of my presence in it. Also of course buddying works against me, you should all try it more. It also gets me more into a game, so I like it when it does happen.You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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Evil Bullet wrote:Voidedmafia wrote:Evil Bullet wrote:Voided responding to every point against him in the way he is is also a form of flailing.
How so?
You are desperate for acceptance and survival and you're not bothering to look for scum anymore.
Well, yes, I do shift to a more defensive stance when I'm getting attacked. Allows me to better focus on my defense.
Sorry if you're disappointed I can't easily defend and attack at the same time. One or the other works better for me.
Rainbowdash wrote:Yeah now thats right. I will explain all right before we actually lynch, and why its a slight town tell for Neruz to drop a few lines.
You mean, if he does drop a few lines, it's a towntell? Lines about what roles are in the game?
Rainbowdash wrote:Will summarize the VM thing later, haven't had a chance to read much yet since last post and now look like im going to be busy for a few more hours.
Phah. Try leaving for 9 hours and coming back to 2-3 pages every Mon-Thurs. THAT'S a pain.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Voidedmafia wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:Yeah now thats right. I will explain all right before we actually lynch, and why its a slight town tell for Neruz to drop a few lines.
You mean, if he does drop a few lines, it's a towntell? Lines about what roles are in the game?
Now now, no rolefishing. Its a minor tell though I think, may be putting too much stock in it, but its something I was looking to see if it would come up or not. All this gets explained before somepony gets lynched. Anypony who hammers without me saying I am ready for them to hammer I would be willing to wagon the next day just for that.
@VM - Humor me here, make a case on hiphop. If you want to draw from what I have said in the past but feel free too. I really haven't mentioned that pony as scum in the last ten or so pages so it would be nice to see what else you think has occured there. If you could elaborate on my push of him latching onto the one point against Thomith while ignoring others I would like that as well, since I was more or less torn on what that really ment when you broke it down.
I want implosion and Ellibereth to help me figure out exactly what we are doing here, especially regarding VM since I think im to attached to this decision when he has sheeped me so fully. I am used to ponies agreeing with me, but this much is not something I tend to be able to deal with and its hard to tackle from my standpoint.You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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Voided is at L-3, so there is no danger of that happening.
hiphop wrote:Evil Bullet wrote:Bolded 2: Because... their interactions... are just not... correct... for that to be... plausible.
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weird wrote:For one thing, a scumflip from Thomith makes hiphop pretty clear town.
And when i flip town?
hiphop wrote: Voided is at L-3, so there is no danger of that happening.
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Rainbowdash wrote:Voidedmafia wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:Yeah now thats right. I will explain all right before we actually lynch, and why its a slight town tell for Neruz to drop a few lines.
You mean, if he does drop a few lines, it's a towntell? Lines about what roles are in the game?
Now now, no rolefishing. Its a minor tell though I think, may be putting too much stock in it, but its something I was looking to see if it would come up or not.
I just wasn't sure what you wanted Neruz to drop a few lines on.
Rainbowdash wrote:@VM - Humor me here, make a case on hiphop. If you want to draw from what I have said in the past but feel free too. I really haven't mentioned that pony as scum in the last ten or so pages so it would be nice to see what else you think has occured there.
Oh, fine, a more in-depth case, then.
While most of the early stuff is town (catching on to the same slip most of us did with Neruz, making a good point about one of Thomith's attempted defenses toward Neruz), he first starts to slip here, claiming that Thomith already knows Neruz's alignment. It was called out on soon after (by Beck first, as seen here). Now, while his argument about why Thomith is trying to defend againstthescummiest action at this point in the game holds merit, trying to say that THomith is scum because of his blatant defense just isn't right. As Beck points out, town blatantly defend just as much as scum do. There is very little merit in trying to say that here, and it just makes Hiphop look bad.
Hiphop then spends posts 58 and 60 trying to draw Thomith's attention to the whole "you just claimed lol" part of it. While I can agree that Thomith isn't the most competent player here, I find it unlikely he missed that, and was most likely just working with the other part of the argument instead. Not to mention that trying to draw attention to this is kinda like the bad kind of tunneling. The kind that's more like you're trying to find any speck of evidence to blame them with instead of zoning in on cornered scum.
Next up is Hip again trying to pin the scumpin on Thomith, along with exaggerating Thomith's intentions (escalating Thomith's stance from "Not really convinced about the argument to "Hey i'm fencesitting!" is the obvious one). While it is true that town can do this as well as scum, town don't exaggerate this openly or this extremely.
here, Hip again tries to claim THomith is scum with the same "he already knows Neruz's alignment, when there's still been no clear proof. For all we know, Thom could just be town defending someone hes sees as a townread (Yes, I know that's the obvious answer). This constant pushing without anything to back it up (either with is own or someone else's) pushes him into scum territory.
Again Hip tries to say Thomith is scum because he's trying to say that Neruz is town with nothing to show. That doesn't make him scum, instantly, just a bit free with his townreads (and maybe a little stupid). He continues on to counter another of your points by saying that his lack of pushing elsewhere means scum, but I often have trouble pushing other people without something sturdy to work of off, so that's more of a playstyle tell than a scumtell. He also fails to respond to the other part of that quote, which illustrates how Thomith could be town. Furthermore, he tries to belittle your townread on him because there are four people pushing his lynch, but that doesn't mean he's not town. Just means that four people are pushing his lynch.
Rainbowdash wrote:If you could elaborate on my push of him latching onto the one point against Thomith while ignoring others I would like that as well, since I was more or less torn on what that really ment when you broke it down.
May just be because my brain kinda turns to mush this late at night, but I'm not sure what this is referring to.
Thomith wrote:weird wrote:For one thing, a scumflip from Thomith makes hiphop pretty clear town.
And when i flip town?
Makes him pretty clear scum, most likely.
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Evil Bullet wrote:Beck wrote:Evil Bullet wrote:Beck wrote:did somepony say parasprite?
This is the most vile form of buddying.
Or it's somebody who wanted to make a joke.
All posts lean in a certain direction. Even the ones that aren't intentionally serious.
This seems like you are taking some things a little too seriously EB.-
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@Beck - EB is likely town (teir 1.5) because of how much he said what I was thinking before I even said it early in the game. That tends to be a sign of somepony who is town from past experience. Think at this point T1 is implosion and Ellibereth, T1.5 is EB and T2 is Neruz.
I want someponies I have trust in helping me with VM here since I actually like that last post of his but really don't know where to go if that read is going to change on me.You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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rainbow wrote:but really don't know where to go if that read is going to change on me.
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Thomith wrote:rainbow wrote:but really don't know where to go if that read is going to change on me.
If you don't mind can you rephrase this? Thanks.
"I don't really know what I'm going to do if my read on VM changes on me."
If not me, then most likely it's referring to you or Hiphop.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Beck wrote:Rainbow, when you call EB town, he posted 5 times. Can you point out to which post(s) in these 5, where he says what you are thinking.
Look. If you want to call EB scum just come flat out and make a case instead of beating around the bush when we only have about a week left in this day and as I said, next weekend I might lose access, and if there are any problems with surgery, I may disappear even moreso. Odds of both those are super low, but im not going to take risks on those types of things.
I like his first few posts a whole lot though, after that he has become more meh, which is why he is now downgraded to tier 1.5
VM is right too about what I was saying. I really am not sure what to do next if I start calling VM town. I almost want to wagon Sleuth though, but he has flaked at this point.You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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I'm not sure if he is, I'm just wondering how you can declare people town when I don't see what they have done.
I'm still trying to rule you out as not being scum too so don't get pissy when I ask you to explain your reads, on how you can declare people like that.Beck =/= The band
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I don't like his first 10 posts (essentially focused on pushing neruz/thomith). I feel like they exaggerate how scummy some events have been (example: post 32's "why the hell aren't you pushing that suspicion?") which is scummy for obvious reasons.
Post 76 (response to EB's case) reads as okay to me. There's really nothing wrong with it, but nothing that makes me think town either.
From post 79:
This is one of those things that I should be reading as either really scummy or really towny, but I'm not entirely sure which. I think I think it's scummy. I'm not sure if that's what I think. ~Or maybe that's their plan, to keep independent and throw us off?
Okay, I'm gonna stop there before I talk myself into oblivion.
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Meh. Voided's hiphop push feels... right. for some reason. I don't know.
Thomith is obvtown.
Neruz is town, RainbowPony is town.
EB, I don't feel as strongly as PonyDash, but I'll defer.
Ellibereth has 61 posts, of which I've read maybe two?
On brief read of deselby, I don't like deselby. Actually, ireallydon't like deselby. I, in fact, dislike deselby to the point where I think deselby is aligned with the mafia. His ISOs 0-6 just feel... fake. The scumhunting doesn't feel legitimate. It feels more like argumentation and arguments and reasoning for the sake of argumentation and arguments and reasoning than for the sake of genuinely trying to determine who the crazy snow monster alien thingies are. And then we get to ISO 7... he unvotes Thomith, presumably because Thomith claims to be at L-1. But deselby's vote on Thomithwas the L-2 vote. So, let's look at this psychologically from town and scum standpoints:
TOWN- He voted Thomith to pressure him, but then at L-1 unvoted to prevent a lynch. Perfectly reasonable. But think for a second - if you're going to put someone at L-2, then IDK, i think it's pretty damn likely that someone else will put them at L-1. Unvoting at that point seems to defeat the original purpose of L-2'ing.
SCUM- Psychologically speaking. The L-2 vote was an attempt to push a mislynch. The L-2 unvote (since his unvote placed Thomith back at L-2) was an attempt to gain town-cred, or perhaps just overcautiousness. This just makes more sense as scum. I don't see why anyone would put someone at L-2 just to unvote them once the wagon gets to L-1.
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Beck wrote:I'm still trying to rule you out as not being scum too so don't get pissy when I ask you to explain your reads, on how you can declare people like that.
Well I am not a fan of people being indirect that much. Gambity/Trickey go for it, but when a point needs to be made it needs to be made. Your post was worded as if you were going to say "I think he is scum because of X" afterwords, so reacted as such. Which of his posts make you think he is scum if any?
Side note regarding EB, if deselby or Beck are scum, EB is back to tier one town.
I could do a deselby quick wagon.
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