Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

[Rainbowdash]

why do you have neruz as town again

WIFOM over cult speculation. Scum would probably be able to realize that there is no cult, at least I think it would be simpler for them to realize it over most town roles. I mean, I can see him as scum but his insistance on there being a cult makes me think otherwise. I do want a Thomith voter/No lyncher dead though today. At most one scum not in that group.

Mafia has just as much motivation as town to find cult, if there was one so that's horrible logic

There should be roles you can look at, Paranoid Gun Owner for instance, and go "There cannot be cult in this game". There are also ones that should give you no good sign one way or another about there being a cult. If you got a scum role though, and assuming there are three which seems to be standard for this size game and would be easy to balance, that should also be a sign that there is no cult. Which is why I think it comes down to if Neruz is somepony who actually can balance a game or not. If he can do a good job creating a setup, they are probably town. If they are not too good, then the tell is bunk.

@Ellibereth - You see what I have been having to deal with from these ponies? Cult discussion. I mean, this is what I have to deal with here, not only from Neruz but I think a couple other ponies as well.

[Rainbowdash]

Tick

About three hours left for passes

Tock

[Evil Bullet]

Do you dislike deselby for any reason besides the fact that the only thing he's done is hate on your town reads?

[Rainbowdash]

Oh believe me I will have my case or my "Its a trap!" statements all ready when time expires on those free passes. She said as she lays out more WV bait.

WV needs to talk about delesby more.

[Sleuth]

...

VOTE: Deselby

[Evil Bullet]

^too easy

[Rainbowdash]

...

VOTE: Deselby

Once WV gives a solid stance on delesby, which he WILL under penalty of lynch in his next post even if its just one head saying what they think, this post WILL also occur in the next 24 hours, we will move on with results on this little experiment.

*Lays out more WV bait*

*Lays out some hiphop bait*

[Evil Bullet]

if there's more than one scum on this wagon Sleuth can be the second. But I think there's only one. I don't feel like bothering with doubting implosion. But like... everyone needs to get back on voided, he's clearly the oportunistic scum in this scenario. And quit trying to add WIFOM to your WIFOM.

[Voidedmafia]

if there's more than one scum on this wagon Sleuth can be the second. But I think there's only one. I don't feel like bothering with doubting implosion. But like... everyone needs to get back on voided, he's clearly the oportunistic scum in this scenario. And quit trying to add WIFOM to your WIFOM.

Remind me again: Which posts don't you like and why, and which post do you like and why?

[Evil Bullet]

I don't develop an opinion on single posts. That's how you mislynch. It's about the whole, not the parts.

[Rainbowdash]

I don't develop an opinion on single posts. That's how you mislynch. It's about the whole, not the parts.

Trees for the forest
Devil in the details

Anyway you slice it there is no correct way to go about things. I have formulated correct reads off single posts, I have taken entire games to finally read a pony correctly.

Can you give me a couple paragraph case on VM? Also you get into meta, links to the relevant parts of ended games would be nice there.

Tick tock WV. I see you online.

[Voidedmafia]

I don't develop an opinion on single posts. That's how you mislynch. It's about the whole, not the parts.

...You take single posts, form an opinion, then meld how you feel into one conclusion. That's pretty much standard for any case on MS.

However, you stated before that you only liked one of my posts, and I'd like to be reminded why you didn't like the others.

[weirdvoigts]

So...he's scum for questioning one point of the voting bloc? The part about him getting on it? If anything, that's a towntell because scum probably wouldn't want to question their spot on a voting bloc.

So that and not voting is it? Sounds more like playstyle then alignment.

As for our opinions, we went through his entire ISO without finding a single scumtell, and both agreed that his posts seem legit, particularly this one. So therefore we are both very anxious to hear your case on him, and I would also like to hear your case on us.
~Wierdalexv

Alex may write in an overly rhetorical way, but I agree with him. I really didn't find anything scummy when reading deselby in ISO. The other thing you brought up, Rainbowdash, was that he's "attacking your 'one of two' posts," but all I remember is that he asked for reasoning behind a couple of them.

-bvoigt

[Rainbowdash]

unvote

Yeah deselby is still pretty null/town for me, only way he goes up the list fast is a majority (see all but implosion) of the block flipping town. Fun reaction test though.

I could go back to VM, I could do a sleuth wagon too, but his "I want to sheep" post feels like a slight towntell. I do want to know why he called Beck town though, thats one everypony keeps saying and I see nothing to make me think either way. Sleuth was only included in the deal to make sure he really would sheep who I said to. Wish WV came in earlier where wagon reaction would have been better.

I really want some Ellibereth and implosion pointing me in a direction here. Im still stuck on "go" setting and have no direction to actually go. Heck I can almost do a Neruz wagon here.

Stupid lack of scum reads. I know who I don't want dead but I can't make an order of who I do want dead that I like.

[implosion]

School starts tomorrow, so. No content right now yay

[Voidedmafia]

School starts tomorrow, so. No content right now yay

Just because school starts doesn't mean you can't give SOMETHING.

I mean, give who you think should be the lynch, if anything.

[Ellibereth]

Shut up voided
Big project for work tomorrow rainbow
sowwy.

[Rainbowdash]

Shut up voided
Big project for work tomorrow rainbow
sowwy.

Ugh

Bad timing. Like I said, I have minor surgery Tuesday so I probably will not be on much/at all that day. Its outpony stuff though so should be back Wednesday, but by then deadline is in a couple days.

[hiphop]

What is VCA?

Sorry Rainbow I have been really busy this weekend, so those 2 posts that I said I would get to, will be put off till tomorrow. Which should be ok, since you can still respond to it, since your surgery is not till Tuesday.

And Sleuth-What are you doing?

[hiphop]

Heck I can almost do a Neruz wagon here.

Why would you want to do a Neruz wagon, over a Thomith wagon?

[Evil Bullet]

wtf is this new Q+ stuff?
690 is a scum claim.
VCA is how we know deselby is town.

[Evil Bullet]

Heck I can almost do a Neruz wagon here.

Why would you want to do a Neruz wagon, over a Thomith wagon?

wtf is this new Q+ stuff?
690 is a scum claim.
VCA is how we know deselby is town.

Shut up voided
Big project for work tomorrow rainbow
sowwy.

Ugh

Bad timing. Like I said, I have minor surgery Tuesday so I probably will not be on much/at all that day. Its outpony stuff though so should be back Wednesday, but by then deadline is in a couple days.

School starts tomorrow, so. No content right now yay

Just because school starts doesn't mean you can't give SOMETHING.

I mean, give who you think should be the lynch, if anything.

<3333333 OOOOOOOOOOOOH THAT'S COOL

[Evil Bullet]

Do you dislike deselby for any reason besides the fact that the only thing he's done is hate on your town reads?

^too easy

I don't develop an opinion on single posts. That's how you mislynch. It's about the whole, not the parts.

if there's more than one scum on this wagon Sleuth can be the second. But I think there's only one. I don't feel like bothering with doubting implosion. But like... everyone needs to get back on voided, he's clearly the oportunistic scum in this scenario. And quit trying to add WIFOM to your WIFOM.

IT EVEN GOES IN THE ORDER YOU CLICK IT

[Evil Bullet]

guys just lynch voided. Like really. I know I've got this one. Tomorrow we can bother with all the potential partners but like this is a free easy scum lynch being presented to us and nobody wants to join. I mean just look at the deselby wagon for instance. Got to L-2 in like a couple hours. Thom lynch went up just as quickly. Hiphop lynch went up in votes real quick. We clearly have a scum team that's ready and willing to push for mislynches. (which reminds me, I'll have to do my own VCA) and yet I've been pushing for Voided for a while now and there's not a single opportunistic vote on him. Can I get some Elements of Harmony back up please? Even trial members, I'll put in a good word for you up top if you want in, just get Voided lynched for me.

[hiphop]

I would be willing to do a Voided or a Thomith lynch.

So, what does VCA stand for? As in direct translation.

I also believe that any scum that was being voted there, scum was bussing, as all wagons seemed to hit L-3 then stop. As if either scum was already on, or scum did not want to be the ones that put it closer to the lynch. Which would put Sleuth on the outside of that group, but then again he is a newbie...

I don't like the fact that Rainbow is putting her vote in the hands of Ellibreth, who has given no indication that he has read the game, and Implosion, who isn't reading the current game. Especially being that Rainbow has at least 4 votes to use.