Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

[Neruz]

Yes, and I STILL don't find him the most scummy. Isn't that interesting?

If EB is hammered and he cardflips town, where will your suspicions go then, Neruz? Do you think that's even possible? Are you arguing that it's a policy lynch, or are you certain that EB is scum?

My suspicions would go to RD, due to the role claiming stuff. Depending on what ponies claims would depend on my next action, probably to Beck if RD checked out. I sincerely doubt he will flip town however.

[Banshee]

@Thomith: You're misrepresenting what I said. And, by the way, I don't have a town read on EB, he's a null-read at the moment. But if I DID have a town read on EB, I'd be doing exactly what you're trying to lynch him for. Then you'd have another lynch all lined up for tomorrow, something scum is very fond of doing.

Hammering a town-read is NOT always scummy. Just off the top of my head, I can think of two reasons I might do that myself. Misrepresenting what someone else is saying and framing it in the worst possible light, however, is. And that's what you just did, Thomith.

IGMEOY.

EBWOP: What do you mean,

town

"hammering" a town read is scummy? That's a pretty bad slip there.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Thomith

Explain.

[Thomith]

thinking on it, UNVOTE: VOTE: rainbow now is the time for you to fullclaim.
I still FOS EB too but we need to know what we are working with counter claim wise.

Thomith, maybe you missed this announcement:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3350145

Maybe you missed this:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3372840

So I'll be specific. This vote does NOT follow the rules, and is NOT counted.

[Thomith]

What i meant by it was i don't see why town would hammer a town read.

[Neruz]

For fucks sake, you people and your claims.

Rainbow does not need to full claim, the

only

point at which Rainbow needs to full claim is if EB dies and flips town even night jailkeeper. If and only if that occurs, does RD need to claim.

Until then, all the town needs to know is that RD believes his role conflicts with EB's claim. No more information is neccessary, and you and Beck are gaining hueg scum points for pushing RD to claim. PR's claiming early is

bad for the town

. If you are town, fucking stop it.

If i wake up tomorrow morning and find you guys have forced RD to claim with lynch threats i will flip the fuck out and open a can of enraged screaming all over this thread.

[Thomith]

RD said the role conflicts with EB's and without knowing what it is we don't know if it actually does,
whatever, if EB flips town even night JK then RD will be forced to claim, and now i think giving scum that much information day 1 is a bad idea. UNVOTE: VOTE: EB
L-1.

[Ellibereth]

lolthisgame
I'll deal wth you latah

[Ellibereth]

unvote

[Beck]

Granted his hammer is dumb but like I said before, lynching a claim PR right now isn't the choice today

I'm not even advocating lyinching rainbow until she let's EVERYONE decide if her and his role together make sense.

She has proven to have god awful reads so I refuse to let her decide anything else in this game.

[Banshee]

What i meant by it was i don't see why town would hammer a town read.

You can think of no reason why town would ever hammer a town read?

[Beck]

Yes, and I STILL don't find him the most scummy. Isn't that interesting?

If EB is hammered and he cardflips town, where will your suspicions go then, Neruz? Do you think that's even possible? Are you arguing that it's a policy lynch, or are you certain that EB is scum?

My suspicions would go to RD, due to the role claiming stuff. Depending on what ponies claims would depend on my next action, probably to Beck if RD checked out. I sincerely doubt he will flip town however.

I will 100% flip town. You are mad cause I proved you can't read and cause you go caught hammering with a claim. You confirmed yourself as scum already.

[Beck]

Elli, it's time to take this game serious, start playing for real. This jokey shit is annoying and not helping

[Thomith]

I can think of two. if deadline is only hours away, which it wasn't, or to find information which i semi understand but it didn't seem that that was what EB was trying to do.

[Banshee]

EBWOP: town "hammering" a town read

I just want to remember this particular quote because I think it's another case of Thomith being a little too knowledgeable about someone's alignment. It will only matter if EB is really town, but I don't want to forget it in that case.

@Thomith: Why did you make the statement that I don't think it's scummy to hammer a town read when that's not what I said or indicated? Do you think that people are obligated to vote for the person they find most scummy at the given time?

[Thomith]

I misread what you said, i thought you said somewhere about you didn't find EB scummy for hammering town but on a reread you didn't say that.

I just want to remember this particular quote because I think it's another case of Thomith being a little too knowledgeable about someone's alignment.

Or me mistyping what i meant to say? or is there no chance of this ever happening?

[Neruz]

You confirmed yourself as scum already.

I will take those words and a steel cactus and i will ram them down your throat with the cactus, your very presence in this universe actively detracts from the intelligence and sanity of every sentient being, the mere concept of your existence causes measurable harm to the intellectual processing ability of the entire species and the very idea that someone like you might possibly exist in any of the uncountable multiverses that splay across the infinite sea of possibility renders this game nearly impossible for the town to win you boneheaded retard.

To everyone else, good night.

[Llamarble]

Beck, if we never lynched claimed PRs D1 town winning percentage would be SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER than lynching without claim because it would be impossible to lynch scum D1.
Even night jailkeeper is rather a feeble role anyway. Setup speculation makes me think it's unlikely to be town. Counterclaim makes me think it's VERY unlikely to be town.
EB is still almost certainly the right lynch today, though now I'll actually get to do my readthrough.

And by the way, as scum I ALWAYS say I was town in case something happens and I don't actually die after being hammered.
I do think Neruz is likely town though.
The way people were eager to get off voided onto him means voided lynch isn't bad at all either and is likely what I want tomorrow, but again I have serious reading to do.

[Ellibereth]

Elli, it's time to take this game serious, start playing for real. This jokey shit is annoying and not helping

I don't joke.

[Banshee]

I misread what you said, i thought you said somewhere about you didn't find EB scummy for hammering town but on a reread you didn't say that.

Could you point me to the post or quote the part that you misread, please? That's a pretty big misunderstanding and I want to be clear on where it originated.

@Neruz: Dramatic much?

[Thomith]

I thought you said it in the first post after the third mishammer, don't even ask me why i thought it said that but i thought it did, yes it is a big misunderstanding and even i don't understand how i made it.

[Ellibereth]

llama
you think rainbow should fullclaim today y/n

[weirdvoigts]

vote: rainbow

EB's claim is believable to me and his reaction to thinking he was hammered seems genuine.

Until she claims her role and ends the confusion SHE has caused to begin with, my vote stays.

Do you think he sincerely believed he was hammered? Did you think it was a lynch?

EBWOP: What do you mean,

town

"hammering" a town read is scummy? That's a pretty bad slip there.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Thomith

This is a good catch, but on the other hand Thomith's typing skills aren't that great.

I just want to remember this particular quote because I think it's another case of Thomith being a little too knowledgeable about someone's alignment.

Or me mistyping what i meant to say? or is there no chance of this ever happening?

But this seems like a twisting of words.

-bvoigt

[Thomith]

But this seems like a twisting of words.

banshee said i know too much on others allignment because of a mistype, but it seems that banshee doesn't think anyone could ever mistype so if EB flips town i am conf scum.

[Beck]

Beck, if we never lynched claimed PRs D1 town winning percentage would be SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER than lynching without claim because it would be impossible to lynch scum D1.
Even night jailkeeper is rather a feeble role anyway. Setup speculation makes me think it's unlikely to be town. Counterclaim makes me think it's VERY unlikely to be town.
EB is still almost certainly the right lynch today, though now I'll actually get to do my readthrough.

And by the way, as scum I ALWAYS say I was town in case something happens and I don't actually die after being hammered.
I do think Neruz is likely town though.
The way people were eager to get off voided onto him means voided lynch isn't bad at all either and is likely what I want tomorrow, but again I have serious reading to do.

That's nice, so get people to lynch him. I'm not taking part of it until rainbow claims her role and we figure this out.

Once we do that we decide between one of them or neruoz

P. Edit - yes I thought he was hammered and I looked like he thought he was hammered.

There is no excuse for you to fake hammer either or Thom for that matter

[Banshee]

Again, Thomith, this is not something that I have said. Can you please refrain from reframing my arguments and statements? I have not said if EB flips town you are confirmed scum. I am not clear on why it's important to you to misrepresent me in this way.

I will say that generally town does not misrepresent others in this fashion repeatedly. Would you agree with that statement?