Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[Amrun]

It's to make a point: you are not obvtown.

You are not obvscum, either, to be fair. I don't really have any honest to goodness scumreads yet. I'm working on my PoE by getting townreads and when something pops out at me, I will say it.

But you had JUST AS MUCH scum motivation to do what you did as town motivation. It has very little to do with meta.

[Maruchan]

Maru- One each round should be sufficent for now. (I'm assuming you mean "night" to be "round")

/facedesk.

yes.

It's to make a point: you are not obvtown.

You are not obvscum, either, to be fair. I don't really have any honest to goodness scumreads yet. I'm working on my PoE by getting townreads and when something pops out at me, I will say it.

But you had JUST AS MUCH scum motivation to do what you did as town motivation. It has very little to do with meta.

Yo
So let me get this straight.

You voted me, to tell me, that I am not obvTown. When I already knew this? Wouldn't it be easier to tell everyone ELSE that I am not ObvTOwn, rather than vote me and not explain it? I don't see how voting me without explanation gets that across to the rest of the players.

[Maruchan]

th "yo" was supposed to say "You voted me, before I ever mentioned the words meta"

it deleted ti on me

[zoraster]

ZORAMOD- When is the deadline for moves?

It's in the Round Update. So 20:00 EDT (unless it says otherwise, always assume it is the day following)

1.

@MOD!: Does a Non-Move, if it ends up being used, keep ALL future moves after the non-move is successful from happening, or does it just protect against ONE move? IE: insured chit to non-move maruchan is successful! 3 mafia non-insured moves to move Maruchan to Secluded Villa! What happens here?

All moves that would take you out of the room after the non-move goes into effect that round will be negated.

@Mod!: Possible suggestion, send out a mass PM from zorastermod saying player X started in -- and ended up in --, with all player names on it, just so everyone knows what happened in case they are idiots and not keeping up on the game?

Why would I do this? They can isolate zorastermod and easily tell who moved where. I try to make people's life easier, but this would just annoy those who keep up by spamming their inbox and be ignored by those who aren't keeping up.

@Mod, is there a limit to number of doors I can open every night? Do they get more expensive the more I open/close? Can I INSURE a door open, have someone else insure 2-3 moves into the secret space, then UNINSURED a door close, to get them in and locked all in the same night?

Do you mean Round? If you open more than one door in a round, it'll cost double the chits, just as any multiple move would. But no, there's no limit other than the number of chits you possess.

In the case you suggest, yes. That would cost 2 chits for the first insured and then 2 chits (double) for the uninsured move for 4 chits total.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Maruchan, who's scum?

[zoraster]

Day 1

Amrun ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Andrius ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Baby Spice ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Fate ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Feysal ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

iamausername ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Klazam ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 2 ) Lost Butterfly, Llamarble,

(L - 9 )

Llamarble ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Lost Butterfly ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Maruchan ( 1 ) Amrun,

(L - 10 )

Nautilius ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Magua ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Nobody Special ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

plum ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Regfan ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

tclawren ( 2 ) Lady Lambdadelta, Regfan,

(L - 9 )

xReckonerx ( 1 ) Plum,

(L - 10 )

Zajnet ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 14 ) Andrius, Baby Spice, Fate, Feysal, hitogoroshi, iamausername, Klazam, Maruchan, Nautilius, Nicodemus, Nobody Special, tclawren, XReckonerX Zajnet,
Total Votes ( 20 )
Needed to Lynch [ 11 ]


Deadline: Round 14

I'm off to bed for the night.

[Amrun]

Uh, Maruchan, I told everyone why. You even quoted why, earlier.

[Regfan]

@ Plum -

I don't think the risks in locking players inside the tipping point are that severe, especially considering we have control of move checker though I do agree that it doesn't have to be

right now

and we should be very careful to do it correctly when we do it. I'm actually interested in your reads outside of Reck.

@ Klazam -

Something to note about the SR is that I don't beleive mafia are able to kill the person in there during the night phase due to it being locked of and as long as Door Control and The Switch are controlled by town they're unable to die during the day as well. Essentially it's an extra powerful Panic Room and due to that it's probably actually a good idea to put someone really good at working with the strategy aspect of the game in there ie. Llarmable or Feysal rather than myself.

@ Maruchan -

You should be opening C/D4 the Electric Chair long enough for someone to get to the Security room, when they make it there you should be locking C/D4 and C4/5. You should also be locking E/F3 either straight away or after we've safely transported three people into there.

@ Mod -

Wouldn't Lost Butterflys vote be worth 2?

[Lost Butterfly]

Man I love active games and active scum!


(more LLD votes!)

[Lost Butterfly]

It's to make a point: you are not obvtown.

X

[Maruchan]

Maruchan, who's scum?

I'm not completely sure right this second, I just got back from watching my TV show, and just skimmed for anything with my name on it.

Uh, Maruchan, I told everyone why. You even quoted why, earlier.

So why did you post the REASONS you voted me, then wait 2 pages, and post 4 times, THEN vote me?

@ Maruchan - You should be opening C/D4 the Electric Chair long enough for someone to get to the Security room, when they make it there you should be locking C/D4 and C4/5. You should also be locking E/F3 either straight away or after we've safely transported three people into there.

Noted.

[Klazam]

Reg- Issue is, I'm now slightly unsure about Llama. We empathically do not want any mafia to control the room. I believe that you're town. Just use the room like a watcher role.

Also, LB's vote only counts as double as long as his votee is in the RAGEROOM with him.

Thirdly, I no understand Chess notation. Could you call it by the room-room notation?

[tclawren]

VOTE: Amrun

Words cannot describe how much I hate this post.

Maruchan is town. Your vote is terrible. I don't understand your reasoning at all.

Really like Klazam, Llamarble and NS right now.

Not liking Plum. I'm trying to figure out why people are voting LLD now. Give me a half hour.

Nothing else is coming to mind right now scumhunting wise.

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Llamarble for the security room. Good town read that has a strong grasp of the mechanics. Needs to be there soon.

The first door to be opened is the door to the electric chair obviously, with the tipping room door closed soon after.

Why is Fate in the Panic room again? And why did we let this happen? No one should be in that room right now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Man I love active games and active scum!


(more LLD votes!)

You couldn't be more wrong. Sorry Faraday.

[Plum]

@ Plum -

I don't think the risks in locking players inside the tipping point are that severe, especially considering we have control of move checker though I do agree that it doesn't have to be

right now

and we should be very careful to do it correctly when we do it. I'm actually interested in your reads outside of Reck.

We're

assuming

we have control of Move Checker. I wouldn't bet everything on the notion that we'll always have a Townie in there.

Reads: Maru's Town, Feysal is pretty Town LB's townish, hito's townish, Andrius is townish. Amrun is scummish. LLD is looking slightly Town by the last page and a bit, but I might be being buddied at (the heck, would LLD do that??? I dunno), Llamarble is ehhhhh, possibly leaning slightly scum. Lots of Townreads and I'm probably wrong somewhere, but it's mostly been STRATEGIZING, so.

It's to make a point: you are not obvtown.

X

+1

[Klazam]

Why is Fate in the Panic room again? And why did we let this happen? No one should be in that room right now.

I agree, but seemingly others have other ideas...

[Maruchan]

I'm curious about Klazam and Feysal. I don't see their reasoning for not wanting someone to hold my spot for long, although I am sure they have one.

IGMEOY Reckoner, as Plum pointed out the "I like Maruchan being there, but owait I wish I was there so I could kickback and ignore town or kickback and let town tell me what to do"
IGMEOY LLD, for not even saying ANYTHING about the two votes you had on you whatsoever.
I'll be Watching Amrun, sue to the whole "I don't think Maruchan is scummy or towny, but if he IS scum, he's safe because we have a tight leash on him, BUT WAIT VOTE HIM ANYWAYS, just to prove I think he COULD be scum."
Plum has a couple of townie points for pointing out the reckoner contradiction. But not like a OMG SHESOTOWN. Just like a thumbs up and a pat on the back kinda deal.


Oh and the guy keeping records of all the moves. I liek him. He's cool.

[Klazam]

I think you staying in your spot is good, but in my case, nah. I have a plan.(TM)

[Maruchan]

XD kay

[Amrun]

tclawren, WHY is Maruchan obvious town? Because he offered himself up? That is 100% null.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Um, I will drect Maru to the first 8 pages of this game where I discuss at length with Faraday and Marble about their read on me, and my town read on LB(Faraday).

[Amrun]

No, as I said, I lean scum on you, Maruchan. That was clearly stated.

It is not a particularly strong read, but it is stronger than any other scumread I have right now.

I have several stronger townreads, as stated.

[tclawren]

IGMEOY LLD, for not even saying ANYTHING about the two votes you had on you whatsoever.

Just pointing out that this is definitely not a scumtell.

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Just read the beginning again. I can see why people are voting LLD. might join wagon later.

Why are there active people not voting?

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tclawren, WHY is Maruchan obvious town? Because he offered himself up? That is 100% null.

Yeah, that's null. But his scumhunting sure isn't. Post 188 is pure townie gold.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok TC is actually scum.

TC, where is your vote currently?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And the follow up question:

Do you think she is scum?