Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[Andrius]

PLANNED MOVE OK WILL SEND IN BEFORE I SLEEP

#MOVE

Player to Move:

Plum

Room to Move to:

Rageatorium

Insurance?:

N

Chit(s)?

1 Blue

[Maruchan]

Two people moved Maru to the Villa- pay attention dammit no wasting chits.

This was planned. JS.

[Andrius]

No but someone sent in the same action- isn't that wasting?

Like A moved B to C
D also moved B to C
Waste of a chit.

Thats what I thought anyway. Maybe I read it wrong.

[Llamarble]

Yeah, that moveset was quite awesome and made me respect you.

In other news,

CONFIRM VOTE ANDRIUS

I still don't get all this 'WE'RE GOING TO Z QT TO MAKE SECRIT STRATEGY" stuff.
If you're recruiting strategy monsters, I can play 3 or more games of chess at the same time blindfolded.
But good strategists should be... you know... directing town's strategy.
Anyway if team villa messes with town's plan there will be RAGE.
Especially since I think the odds of two scum in that group are nontiny.

[Andrius]

PLANNED MOVE OK WILL SEND IN BEFORE I SLEEP

#MOVE

Player to Move:

Plum

Room to Move to:

Rageatorium

Insurance?:

N

Chit(s)?

1 Blue

Sent this in.

[Llamarble]

The way that moveset worked was that the first 3 moves occurred in random order.
Move to Ragetorium, move to villa, and move to villa.
We wanted him to end up in villa, which would happen the 2/3 of the time where move to Ragetorium wasn't third.
Had only one copy been submitted it would have been 50/50

[Llamarble]

Why are we moving Plum anyway?

[Andrius]

I'm not quite remembering clearly why we're going to wait in the ragetorium at this point but.

Villa is for coordination. Solidifying reads on each other. Being fruit. (Note when I say fruit I mean last game not Plum.)

I'm not a strategist to compare with hito and Feysal (SAIII anyone?) but I'm easily readable and as I proved last game I'm a Pseudo-Mason to be Reckoned with. (C WUT I DID THAR?)

(In case you're not familiar zor's last game was a massive neighborhood. I was a neighbor with DGB. I was the Vig. Together we solidified our townreads on each other, creating a Mason-Vig combo and I killed 2/3 scum, with the third being used as my meatshiled against the scumkill (irony for ya')).

I'm sleeping now.


predit: Because she wanted to be moved and I was willing to move her?

[Andrius]

Besides no one's here to dissent so I did it. Also don't know when move deadline for moves is and I'll probably sleep for the next 1o hours or so.

[Regfan]

Far too lazy and tired to go into reasoning behind these now. They're available upon request when I get time tomorrow though.

Town (Strongest to weakest):

Maruchan, Klazam, Hitogorishi, Llarmable, Feysal, Nobody Special, Reck, Fate, Adrius, Plum, Iamusername.

Null:

Magua, Zajnet, Lost Butterfly, LLD.

Scum (Strongest to weakest):

Tclawren, Amrum, Baby Spice, Nautilus.

@ Llarmable -

Really not seeing your scum-read on Andrius, an explanation would be nice. You should join the Tclwaren wagon, he attempts to defend his Maruchan town declaration by linking Post #188 which is actually one of the few posts of Maruchan that isn't a strong town-tell but rather when LB called him conftown.

[Klazam]

vote tclawren

for now.

I dont want llama in the Security Room, due to tc's pushing of Llama.

Also, I'd like to know what about post 188 is pure gold.

Reposting, to make sure tclawren doesnt miss this.

Imma seriously going to bed nao.

[Lost Butterfly]

Yeah, that moveset was quite awesome and made me respect you.

In other news,

CONFIRM VOTE ANDRIUS

I still don't get all this 'WE'RE GOING TO Z QT TO MAKE SECRIT STRATEGY" stuff.
If you're recruiting strategy monsters, I can play 3 or more games of chess at the same time blindfolded.
But good strategists should be... you know... directing town's strategy.
Anyway if team villa messes with town's plan there will be RAGE.
Especially since I think the odds of two scum in that group are nontiny.

this is a terrible vote

[zoraster]

Day 1

Amrun ( 1 ) tclawren,

(L - 10 )

Andrius ( 1 ) Llamarble,

(L - 10 )

Baby Spice ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Fate ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Feysal ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

iamausername ( 1 ) hitogoroshi,

(L - 10 )

Klazam ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 1 ) Lost Butterfly,

(L - 10 )

Llamarble ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Lost Butterfly ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Maruchan ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Nautilius ( 1 ) Andrius,

(L - 10 )

Magua ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Nobody Special ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

plum ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

Regfan ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

tclawren ( 4 ) Lady Lambdadelta, Regfan, Amrun, Klazam,

(L - 7 )

xReckonerx ( 1 ) Plum,

(L - 10 )

Zajnet ( 0 )

(L - 11 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 10 ) Baby Spice, Fate, Feysal, Maruchan, Nautilius, Nicodemus, Nobody Special, XReckonerX Zajnet, iamausername,
Total Votes ( 20 )
Needed to Lynch [ 11 ]


Deadline: Round 14

There was a question about LB's vote on LLD being worth two. It should not. Votes are only worth two votes if it's by a person in the rageatorium ON another person in the rageatorium.

As for the circle thing, I'll take a look at it.

[Lost Butterfly]

Far too lazy and tired to go into reasoning behind these now. They're available upon request when I get time tomorrow though.

Town (Strongest to weakest):

Maruchan, Klazam, Hitogorishi, Llarmable, Feysal, Nobody Special, Reck, Fate, Adrius, Plum, Iamusername.

Null:

Magua, Zajnet, Lost Butterfly, LLD.

Scum (Strongest to weakest):

Tclawren, Amrum, Baby Spice, Nautilus.

@ Llarmable -

Really not seeing your scum-read on Andrius, an explanation would be nice. You should join the Tclwaren wagon, he attempts to defend his Maruchan town declaration by linking Post #188 which is actually one of the few posts of Maruchan that isn't a strong town-tell but rather when LB called him conftown.

We're certainly more town than [Reck/Fate/Iam], actually.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh, I forgot. I lean scum a little on LLD, but it's gut and no reasoning and I don't think she is obvscum and the speed of her "wagon" concerns me.

was this the 2 vote wagon with 2 'probtown' reads on it? what the fuck is this

[Lost Butterfly]

lld's totally scum; take a look at her AWKWARD as fuck robotic questions she asks reck.

[Lost Butterfly]

Also; I called Maruchan conftown for #192.

[Lost Butterfly]

MOD: Hito is voting Iam, not the other way around

-fixed

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lld's totally scum; take a look at her AWKWARD as fuck robotic questions she asks reck.

I asked Reck one question.

It was about why he was pumping up Maru's ego.

The reasoning was that I was wondering if scum Reck would use his vouching for Maru in this game as grounds to buddy him.

How is this awkward, Faraday? Get out of your tunnel vision and start doing something valuable, like catching the real scum.

[Amrun]

LB: "wagon" was in quotes for a reason. I meant that I didn't like the number of people who had expressed suspicion of LLD, often for little reasoning. It's all over the board.

Your vote is fine, for example, but in pregame, I remember it just kind of being decided lld was scum and I didn't know why. I couldn't decide if my gut lean was just subconscious sheeping or if I really saw something too.

In any case, I don't know what exactly makes LLD so scummy that she's "obvscum."

Tcllawren's oblique attack basically made it so I won't support lld's death unless tclaw flips town. If tclaw is scum as I suspect, I don't think that was a bus.

[Amrun]

Also, andrius' catchup wall was full of fluff and I don't know where those town reads on him are coming from.

I don't have a special reason to think he's scum, though.

[Llamarble]

Yes. Full of fluff.
Pretty much his only contribution so far was "I want to go to the villa" and talking about other games.
Honestly absence of things that make me think 'oh this guy he might flip town' are alarming because most people usually have at least a few of them.
LLD is scummy. That last response post was scummy and the other posts were too.

Tclaw I actually don't find too scummy.
1. He wants town (me) in the security room
2. That Maru post he mentioned is indeed a kind of mod-tell-me-stuff that town do more often.
3. Amrun post he reacted to could understandably provoke that reaction. I'm not sure about Amrun myself.

[Magua]

Hai guiz.

Quick notes:

NO. DO NOT SPAM THIS SHIT TO THREE PAGES ALREADY, I SWEAR TO GOD

Lulz. Pot, kettle, lulz.

Maruchan in the door room is fine. Limited amount of possible damage, plus he's been acting way townie and obviously trying and stuff.

Fate in the panic room is fine at this point in time, but Fate needs to man up and start posting shit other than "GETMETOTHEPANICROOMOGODIMGOINGTODIE".

Klazam in the move watcher room is very meh. I was doing ok with Klazam -- most of his posts were decent -- until I came to #272. First, there's something here about Regfan being a strong townread, which is then mirrored in Regfan's #237. Then there's the whole "Mod, when's the deadline for votes", which is just odd given Klazam's analysis of the rooms in #6. It doesn't sit well with me. Finally, Klazam's #317, "Where is Magua?" Finally, there's Klazam's stance that the Potion Room should be avoided; more on that below.

VOTE: Klazam

What happened to Nicodemus?

I ate him.

Strategy:

Put people who can read eachother into the QT. I honestly don't care if it's LB, Andrius, hitogoroshi, or if it's SDC (though Fate's kind of out of that at the moment) -- get them in there, let them get their reads, and then let the other group in.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the War Room yet. We should be using this.

Finally, the Potion Room. I

heavily

disagree with Klazam about the Potion Room. This should be abused the fuck out of. Fine, we need to watch out for Tipping Point, but we can at the least send people one at a time into and out of the Potion Room, and we should be doing this thing. If we can get 2-3 people in and out of there every Day, then this game is done.

My proposed (haven't sent this in) move is to move Llamarble to the Campfire, and from there to either to the Potion Room or the War Room.

Player to Move:

Llamarble

Room to Move to:

Campfire

Insurance?:

Yes (if someone else will make a non-insured move to get him to the War Room or Tipping Point)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Andrius: I just read your comment. I'm not willing to explain that yet, unless a large amount of people REALLY want to know.

[Klazam]

Klazam in the move watcher room is very meh. I was doing ok with Klazam -- most of his posts were decent -- until I came to #272. First, there's something here about Regfan being a strong townread, which is then mirrored in Regfan's #237.

My reasoning for regfan's townieness is the same as LLD, due to the tone of reg's posts. After our inital disagreement, It became clear that regfan was likely town.

Then there's the whole "Mod, when's the deadline for votes", which is just odd given Klazam's analysis of the rooms in #6. It doesn't sit well with me.

First: It was me asking when the deadline for moves is. I orignally thought that 8 PM today was when the round ended. Note this section in the rules: "3. There will be a deadline set for move submissions, generally 10-12 hours before the next Round." Since 8 pm is 22 hours away from 10 Pm, i think it is fairly clear why i'd make that mistake.

Finally, Klazam's #317, "Where is Magua?"

Seriously? Both you and Nicodemus havent posted in the thread at that point. When I was doing my chit count, I was confused to why i only had 18 people on that list. This is a fabricated reason to attack me.

Finally, the Potion Room. I

heavily

disagree with Klazam about the Potion Room. This should be abused the fuck out of. Fine, we need to watch out for Tipping Point, but we can at the least send people one at a time into and out of the Potion Room, and we should be doing this thing. If we can get 2-3 people in and out of there every Day, then this game is done.

What I'm worried about is what type of roles scum may get. Can you please explain to me WHY it should be abused.

My proposed (haven't sent this in) move is to move Llamarble to the Campfire, and from there to either to the Potion Room or the War Room.

Player to Move:

Llamarble

Room to Move to:

Campfire

Insurance?:

Yes (if someone else will make a non-insured move to get him to the War Room or Tipping Point)

Why llamamarble? I do not have confidence in the Llama.