Prozacs Basic Theme 3 - GAME OVER

[Blackberry]

Why are FATE, RECKONER, KATSUKI, DRAM, and MYKO invading my game?

Wtf >=(

This game, as always, will be won with the assistance of my beautiful self. Flameaxe will be the serial killer as always and xvart will be the, ummm, awesome person.

myko's #5 reads non-mafia to me.

Nocmen's #14 draws suspect though. But I'll answer anyways! =D

1. How often do you feel you use meta as an argument in Mafia?
To defend myself? Very often. To attack others? If I'm focusing-in on a person and think they're scum, then I will also meta them to see if I can find any concrete patterns to result in me either: nailing in the coffin or make me rethink the situation.

2. Do you prefer proactive (using as a reason to investigate a player's actions) or reactive (using to backup/contradict what a player did) meta? I'm not sure I understand what this means? XD

3. How often are you to research meta on a player whose meta you don't know in the game? As I already said, if I'm focusing in on a player that I really think is scum, it is not uncommon for me to then look at their other games.

4. Do you prefer to use meta to defend a player as being town, or attack them for being scum? I use it for both. Bias for either determination is bias and dumb.

I think asking questions about meta will only infuriate the MAFIA to act anti-meta... >_<

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Also #25 once again makes me think Nocmen is mafia trying to get a legit reason to join the bandwagon.

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I disagree with #32, a good player who wants to win will play different as town and scum, that way they'll be seen as unlynchable when they are town, and only lose when they're mafia... =D Chances are they will be town more often so they will win more often. Bwhahahah... or maybe I'm just screwing with you >=D

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Vote: Nocmen

1: He is making an active effort to seem town by asking questions.
2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.

[Blackberry]

FATE GET YOUR EVIL ARMYNESS ONTO NOCMEN ASAP

NOCMEN ADMIT YOUR DOOM

Ellibereth - can I hire you as an evil apprentice to my awesomeness? I think I like you, lol.

[Blackberry]

1: He is making an active effort to seem town by asking questions.
2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.

1. Many of these players are high end players, many have played with each other before. I prefer these as relevant questions as opposed to random ones. May as well get discussion going on a topic that forces them into a position now (as opposed to letting scum who claim to never use meta be able to use meta to try and push a bad reason).
2. Who said I was looking to join the wagon? I just wanted to know if its a random vote or if they have a reason for it.

Great Case.

Vote: Blackberry

OMGUS?

[Blackberry]

So lets see now:

People who are voting me for my vote on blackberry: Fate, CSL, Jackalope?
People who are voting me for my meta mentions: Blackberry, Parabollocks

Where to look for scum buddying me: Rest of votes - Reck, myko, Katsuki.

That's where to look for the scum, one of those three.

Please, explain to me how the case Blackberry posted makes me scum, because all I get from it is everyone who aks questions at the start of the game is scum?

'all I get from it is everyone who aks questions at the start of the game is scum'... I don't see town saying this TBH. Although I am hesitant because of how quickly people hopped onto you, I'm content with keeping my vote here.

Why don't you explain the reasons for voting me, eh?

[Blackberry]

FATE GET YOUR EVIL ARMYNESS ONTO NOCMEN ASAP

NOCMEN ADMIT YOUR DOOM

Ellibereth - can I hire you as an evil apprentice to my awesomeness? I think I like you, lol.

waaaaaaaaaaw
Why have I never played with you before.
Or seen you.
<3

I rarely play MafiaScum forum games.

BWHAHAHAHA. THIS CASINO SHALL BE OURS!!

xoxo

[Blackberry]

2. Who said I was looking to join the wagon? I just wanted to know if its a random vote or if they have a reason for it.

Also, why would there be a 'reason' for it on PAGE ONE? What kind of townie thinks there is a REASON for a PAGE ONE vote that you already knew was based on a 'mindless feud' or whatever you called it. I don't buy this. I think you wanted Fate to give you an excuse to join the bandwagon.

[Blackberry]

I didn't say you were acting townie, I said you were making an active effort to appear townie. Not to mention, the questions you asked, I think did a negative service in that now mafia will be consciously aware to avoid what they've done as meta, etc.

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I just wanted to know if its a random vote or if they have a reason for it.

I'll just say that I was questioning votes to get discussion started

Which is it exactly? 'Just getting discussion started' is different than 'trying to see if he had a reason.' One is general and one is very specific.

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I do however agree with you on the mafia sheeping me part. Regardless if you are mafia or not, at least one or two mafia have either sheeped me (personally I just wanted to see how you reacted, and I don't think you're reacted the most town-like to my accusations) or mafia would bus for whatever reason.

Elliberth is waiting with a loaded pistol. You better convince us you're town.

PS: The bullet's in Ellibereth's pistols are painted like dice since we're at a casino.

[Blackberry]

Fate & Katsuki, do you two need a room?

*recalls memory*

Fate, I vaguely remember you telling Katsuki you love him... I may or may not have pictures to support this.

Ellibereth, prepare the blackmails!

[Blackberry]

Fate, stop rimming.

[Blackberry]

Can darkpurple be my evil color then, oh gracious mod?

But darkpurple isn't casino/gambling themed...

Grrrrrrr...

[Blackberry]

NOCMEN: L-1

I am slightly hesitant about this because it's happening really fast. Nocmen hasn't given me any town-tells though. But if he flips town I feel like it's my fault AND the day ended really quickly. But if I am right I feel like an awesome scumhunter so I'm going to keep my vote there to make it seem like I'm not backing down from my accusations.

BWHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Blackberry]

OH I JUST NOTICED MY AVATAR GOES WITH THIS THEME SO WELL.

=D

Can I be the mascot?

[Blackberry]

Although the fact he is a

Gold Digger

and a

Vanilla Townie

does strike me as odd... for some reason I buy the claim (i.e., it seems like something Prozac would give a vanilla townie).

Unvote

for now and thinking. Lalala.

[Blackberry]

See, if he was scum, he would claim VT and a

Gambler

is what I think. Why come up with Gold Digger when risking being exposed? Added to the fact I feel very confident the flavor is something Prozac would put... I'd say he's town.

[Blackberry]

*takes Joanne* You will not be my bridge partner. And we can go to the bathroom together!

Ellibereth, do me a favor and scumhunt the people voting Nocmen. I must take a break.

*runs to bathroom with Joanne and discusses an escape plan*

[Blackberry]

*hides behind Flameaxe*

I am confused. Can we put Fate in a straitjacket?

[Blackberry]

As the flavor-master who got Reck lynched last game... I believe Nocmen's claim, although him not being a Gambler seems odd, what he has claimed does make sense to me. It sounds like something Prozac would say/use as flavor.

[Blackberry]

People who think I wanted no lynch D1 = lol
People who think I'm just "reaction fishing" = Yeah I am. I'm also shooting fishing.
People who think I'm rolefishing = NO, I'M ASKING FOR THEIR ROLES, NO FISHING. ROLE NUKING.

ummmmmma

If they don't beleive the gun we can just keep wagonning everyone until we get all the claims lalalalalalalalaaaaaaaa

Vote: Stranger

UNVOTE: VOTE ELLIBERETH

You need some votes so you stop acting like an idiot. Or scum trying to fake VI.

At least Noc is making an effort.

This looks to me like scum opportune voting.

Just my thoughts.

Possibly because Stranger is his scum partner.

[Blackberry]

OH. I ALMOST FORGOT.

XVART IS SCUM.

PBT 1 - xvart scum
PBT 2 - xvart scum
PBT 3 - xvart ??? ... SCUM!

Xvart, do you LIKE being scum? O_o

[Blackberry]

Although the fact he is a

Gold Digger

and a

Vanilla Townie

does strike me as odd... for some reason I buy the claim (i.e., it seems like something Prozac would give a vanilla townie).

Unvote

for now and thinking. Lalala.

I am disappointed by this move. Mostly because it's just a gut "oh um I believe him" and it tries to outguess Prozac which isn't smart when he's the dude that drinks his body weight in scotch as a monday night snack.

Just point of reference.

Me outguessing the Mod is what won PBT2. I pride myself on the ability to do so...

So... STFU.

Ellibereth, can you remove this inferior rodent from my sight?

[Blackberry]

I'll concur with this Flamey-bro.

Unvote?

Vote: Bogre

[Blackberry]

The fact that both Reckoner and xvart are voting because of flavor is very fail.

You both played in PBT other game(s)... Shouldn't you KNOW that townies get lots of interesting flavor?

Reckoner pretty much claimed 'I don't have a lot of flavor'.

Although length wise, my flavor is short, it also is very 'dramatic'. This is typical of PBT. The fact Reckoner does NOT have this, or is pretending to not have those, is highly suggestive of him being MAFIA.

Same goes for xvart, although Reck is technically the one who said the flavor stuff.

*looks @ xvart, Reck, Bogre, and SC*

Suspect 1: Reck
Suspect 2: Bogre
Suspect 3: Ehhhh, maybe xvart. I'm afarid to base it off the scum 3x in a row thing cuz that's not likely to be done on purpose, I don't think, unless xvart requested it.

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Reck, any defense to what I just said?

Unvote, Vote: Reckoner

[Blackberry]

Blackberry and Bogre are counterbussing each other.

Stranger, ok I guess that makes sense, but given that RVS is a time for lols I generally don't put any claiming/words into anything unless there are special circumstances like post restrictions, multiple scum groups, etc.

Blackberry saying he outguessed the mod and killed scum last game yet questioning Reckoner and Xvart for flavor guessing is completely hypocritical.

Not hypocritical. Reck & xvart are doing it WRONG. The mod DOES put flavor like that in the town PMs and Reck & xvart thing it's "odd flavor for a townie" is complete and utterly not true and they should know that. I'm attacking them for INCORRECT FLAVOR GUESSING when they know what type of flavor the mod gives.

Just my thoughts.

Possibly because Stranger is his scum partner.

Suspect 1: Reck
Suspect 2: Bogre
Suspect 3: Ehhhh, maybe xvart. I'm afarid to base it off the scum 3x in a row thing cuz that's not likely to be done on purpose, I don't think, unless xvart requested it.

So SC is my scumpartner, but he doesn't make it to the list of your suspects? ?

Not enough solid proof. I wouldn't bet my penny on it

yet

.

Blackberry and Bogre are counterbussing each other.

Stranger, ok I guess that makes sense, but given that RVS is a time for lols I generally don't put any claiming/words into anything unless there are special circumstances like post restrictions, multiple scum groups, etc.

Blackberry saying he outguessed the mod and killed scum last game yet questioning Reckoner and Xvart for flavor guessing is completely hypocritical.

Not to mention his posts over Nocmen's flavor:
1: Claiming not gambler is odd
2: Claiming not gambler makes him town
3: Claiming not gambler is odd again

and even though he admits hesistancy over believing the claim (likely setting up a reason to revote or vote him later) into the posting, he rails Reck and xvart over not believing flavor.

1 & 3 is for emphasis on something else. After thinking about it, 2 makes sense that if he was mafia he would claim Gambler.

Too many people we need to policy lynch/vig.

Uphill battle games for the fucking loss.

I'll be yelling at you fucks in the dead qt soon enough so don't forget my reads.

Unvote:
Vote: Bogre

And I'm one of those people...why?

Because I wouldn't let you browbeat me into voting for the suspect I had 3rd in line? *snort*

I also find it amusing that Blackberry didn't vote for ME until there seemed to be a WAGON starting. If he's really believing that I'm opportunistic, that's pot calling the kettle black.

I usually let me ideas out and then see how people respond (is BB crazy or do people see what I see). It's not atypical for me to wait and vote.

[Blackberry]

Yup, L-1.

Joanne Keir. Gold Digger. I've come to not gamble at the casino, just find a possible companion. Townie.

#1 sounds like a lot of interesting flavor for just a townie

Reckoner has claimed he does not have dramatic/intersting flavor.

Townies have dramatic/intersting flavor. If Reck has dramatic flavoring in his text as mafia, he's pretending he doesn't. He is scum.

[Blackberry]

Yeah, no totally. I'm scum, guys. <----

Who says this?

[Blackberry]

I usually let me ideas out and then see how people respond (is BB crazy or do people see what I see). It's not atypical for me to wait and vote.

Waiting passively for approval before you act is pretty scummy.

Calling my playstyle, i.e., something I do regardless of alignment, scummy, is dumb.

Do you think I don't know people think it's scummy?

It's how I play in games where a lynch requires a huge multitude of people.

[Blackberry]

Doing something wrong and admitting it's scummy does not make it not scummy...in fact, it only confirms it as scummy.

I'm well aware of how I play on the forum and the fact it's not very typical compared to what you all 'expect' to see from a typical forum game player.

I know my playstyle (something I do regardless of alignment, although truth be told, when I'm scum in forum games I typically don't pay attention to the game and avoid it, so perhaps it's more likely I do it as town), is scummy. That makes me scummy for knowing my playstyle can come off as scummy? O_o

[Blackberry]

From my experience with Fate, my motto is:

He's always right.

Except when he is mafia and accusing me.

Besides that, he is always right.

[Blackberry]

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Also #25 once again makes me think Nocmen is mafia trying to get a legit reason to join the bandwagon.

Vote: Nocmen

1: He is making an active effort to seem town by asking questions.
2: He is asking Fate for a legit reason to vote Katsuki... what townie does this? Mafia lookin' for a reason to join the bandwagon.

This.

VOTE: Nocmen

Believe that makes -1.

I worry about Katsuki and Ellibereth's switches.

Puts someone at L-1 while at the same time mentioning other people he thinks are suspect (isn't this what people claim mafia do so they can switch at any time?).

Wait, you don't want to investigate the wagon, yet you're willing to switch over so fast? I already put you as likely scum hopping on my wagon, and wow, you just did it again.

Unvote, Vote: mykonian

I'm especially fine with my vote now.

I could let myself go to Ellibereth at this point. Noc/Ellibereth > Katsuki.

Wagon fails, so Bogre immiediately switches.

People who think I wanted no lynch D1 = lol
People who think I'm just "reaction fishing" = Yeah I am. I'm also shooting fishing.
People who think I'm rolefishing = NO, I'M ASKING FOR THEIR ROLES, NO FISHING. ROLE NUKING.

ummmmmma

If they don't beleive the gun we can just keep wagonning everyone until we get all the claims lalalalalalalalaaaaaaaa

Vote: Stranger

UNVOTE: VOTE ELLIBERETH

You need some votes so you stop acting like an idiot. Or scum trying to fake VI.

At least Noc is making an effort.

'At least Noc is making an effort'... really FAIL reason for switching your vote like that. This goes back to the 'I'll keep my options open cuz I'm scum' argument people tend to use.

Too many people we need to policy lynch/vig.

Uphill battle games for the fucking loss.

I'll be yelling at you fucks in the dead qt soon enough so don't forget my reads.

Unvote:
Vote: Bogre

And I'm one of those people...why?

Because I wouldn't let you browbeat me into voting for the suspect I had 3rd in line? *snort*

I also find it amusing that Blackberry didn't vote for ME until there seemed to be a WAGON starting. If he's really believing that I'm opportunistic, that's pot calling the kettle black.

Your choice of word is 'AMUSING', not 'SUSPSCIOUS'. This strikes me as odd. If you were mafia and you knew I was town, you would find it amusing because you think I'm being a hypocrit in your mind. However, if you're town, why find it amusing? Shouldn't it be suspscious?

Yeah, no totally. I'm scum, guys. <----

Who, as town, says that, EVER?

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Fate, are you certain he is scum? I was going to wait to see how certain you are, like 100% certain, not Katsuki-certain. However, rereading everything, I don't need your masterfulness anymore to calm my doubts.

[Blackberry]

Unvote, Vote: Bogre

(I had to double-check through all my posts to see where my vote was)

@Bogre, This is the point, where you admit to being mafia, and act like we're bussing eachother, that way you'll get OS thinking we're both scum, and to my benefit, it guarantees I won't get killed tonight.

Bwhahahahahaha.

[Blackberry]

How exactly am I a hypocrit OS?

[Blackberry]

Buh-bye scummers.

[Blackberry]

Fate, should we go ahead and list all the scum now incase one of us dies? =D

[Blackberry]

I don't think bogre is scum.

In the unlikely event Bogre flips town: Para is scum for 'thinking Bogre is town' (i.e., he knows) without giving a reason.

In the highly-likely event Bogre flips mafia: Para is town (because mafia wouldn't post that about their partner and not give a reason).

[Blackberry]

OS, why aren't you voting me? Is it because you're scum and you don't need to vote me because you'll get the thrill of killing me tonight? O_o

[Blackberry]

V

OTING MYKONIAN IS THE DUMBEST THING EV

ER.

[Blackberry]

Buh-bye scummers.

I don't understand this post. What's going on?

I attempted to blow-up the forum.

Bombing-attempt thwarted.

Now I must continue playing these 'mafia' game.

GRRRRRRRRRR!

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Also, we don't need a claim from Bogre because he'll be lynched.

[Blackberry]

Anyone vigging mykonian will get my fist in their face.

[Blackberry]

Myko, do you like bread?

[Blackberry]

Hammering without a claim is retarded.

Whoever does it, gets my eternal RAGE.

Even if Bogre flips mafia? O.o

You almost say this like you know Bogre will flip town *contemplates*. Nahhh.

[Blackberry]

Even if Bogre flips Scum, hammering without a claim means you were willing to risk losing a major Town PR...

I disconcur.

Based on Bogre's play, I'm willing to risk him being a 'major PR'. I think he's as scummy as a Katsuki Cupcake in a pile of Muffins.

[Blackberry]

Blackberry - Nina Jones - Old Woman - Vanilla Townie - Shot outside the casino Night 1

One of the officers ran to the door, finding it once again locked.

"Sam..." The other officer stuttered leaning over one of the bodies.

"I... I... think this ones alive..."

BWHAHAHA.

YOU CAN'T KILL ME FOOLS.

GO PROZAC

!

[Blackberry]

Blackberry - Nina Jones - Old Woman - Vanilla Townie - Shot outside the casino Night 1

One of the officers ran to the door, finding it once again locked.

"Sam..." The other officer stuttered leaning over one of the bodies. "I... I... think this ones alive..."

GO, ME, GO!