Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote: Magua

[Andrius]

A new suspect approaches!

He is quite focused and concerned with painting me as the evil mastermiind self-kidnapper!

Fufuffufufufufu oh aaaaaanDRIUUUSSSSSS

YOU GOT SOMETHIN TO HIDE?

Nope!
I just think that there's no way you're:
A) Survivor, as those are just stupid and I'd love faith in zor's modding
B) going to die N4, as that's also incredibly dumb (does anyone else who's "kidnapped" die then too? Or do they die later too?

Well I mean I guess there's one thing you can be but I don't understand how that works and/or why the hell this is happening but it DOES explain your play so FFFFf

Anyway Magua's the lynch as per llamacop so.

[Lost Butterfly]

Well we're electrocuting him.

[Fate]

I can't scumhunt andrius if he hides his coward ass in the Villa.

LEAVE EM OUT IN THE OPEN AND SEND RECK AND ELLIE IN THERE

[hitogoroshi]

Iam's NS vote - see his full Post #468makes him the scummier. Because it's opportunism. It's a low blow, trying to peel apart one mediocre post by NS, who has a talent for looking scummy, and turn it into something resembling scumhunting. But here's what: No comment on anyone else? Masquing as actual scumhunting effort with all the questions at NS, but nary a comment on anyone else, any thornier issue. He's taking the fakeable-as-scum route and dressing it up Scum, please.

This + username scum flip = plum's probably town.

unvote

Here's my reasoning:
IAM could move to the Rageatorium, and drag me (or, now, another player voting him) there, and essentially self-hammer, thus depriving us of our intended moves.

And NS is almost certainly town.

I'd like to Villa again with LB if it can be arranged. LB's my strongest townread. And I'd like to hash out some things.

More from me later, today is a full day.

[Andrius]

Dead Magua is dead Magua served medium rare or extra crispy.

K fine I'll stay out here that's cool with me- more time to figure out where the Feysal-killer came from.

[Andrius]

reck's not in the game anymore dumbass.

[Llamarble]

Disappearing for 3 days then dying would A: be really weird and B: mean a lot of non-town-initiated kills.
I think we make Fate claim what he's been up to.
Acting really cryptic and THEN disappearing under suspicious circumstances may be worth trying to lynch him / trying to move him to Monastery.

[Lost Butterfly]

I can't scumhunt andrius if he hides his coward ass in the Villa.

LEAVE EM OUT IN THE OPEN AND SEND RECK AND ELLIE IN THERE

reck replaced out, REMEMBER?

[Andrius]

Disappearing for 3 days then dying would A: be really weird and B: mean a lot of non-town-initiated kills.
I think we make Fate claim what he's been up to.
Acting really cryptic and THEN disappearing under suspicious circumstances may be worth trying to lynch him / trying to move him to Monastery.

This.

[Lost Butterfly]

Dead Magua is dead Magua served medium rare or extra crispy.

K fine I'll stay out here that's cool with me- more time to figure out where the Feysal-killer came from.

Mafia strongman type kill seems likely.

[Magua]

Everyone one room from the rageatorium needs to unvote Magua now.

I really shouldn't have to explain this right?

tclawren's town.
Amrun's scum.

Fate may have kidnapped himself, but I doubt that Fate performed either of the kills last Night -- I don't think someone would be allowed to both move off the map and perform a kill.

[Andrius]

Dead Magua is dead Magua served medium rare or extra crispy.

K fine I'll stay out here that's cool with me- more time to figure out where the Feysal-killer came from.

Mafia strongman type kill seems likely.

No I'm

telling you

that there's another way.

[Fate]

I can't be lynched when I'm kidnapped.

If you fucks want to waste one on me go ahead.

Feysal was vigged, klazam was scum kill, I was SKd.

Or SK gets to kidnap as a bonus to killing.

But Noooooooo FATES ACTING WEIRD HE MUST BE SCUM.

You dumb fucks. There's no way id be this obvious as a SK. I had no idea thered be a sk so I figured I cold be as cryptic as I. Fucking want, I was completely blindsided by this FRAMENAPPING job I woke up to

[Andrius]

And so how exactly does the SK win, Fate?
Because three-day delays in kills doesn't seem like it would be of much help.

[hitogoroshi]

(Copguilty and my role PM guarantees me no framers so trololol)
Who's awesome? I'm awesome.

How exactly does your role PM guarantee you no framers?

[Llamarble]

(Copguilty and my role PM guarantees me no framers so trololol)
Who's awesome? I'm awesome.

How exactly does your role PM guarantee you no framers?

Information I got:
Chits/wincon etc.
I am a sane cop.
I have no idea about results on third parties.
Explicit guarantee of no framers and of mafia lawyer in the setup.
I get vanillized after either 2 guiltie results or 2 dead mafia.


Huh, needing to kill all third parties makes me REALLY want to try to get Fate dead somehow.
I propose we try moving him to the monastery or the panic room.
He might also be invisible but still in the building somewhere.

[Llamarble]

I want Fate to fullclaim and explain why he went to the panic room D1.

[Maruchan]

I agree llamarble.

Also, FUCKING ONE FUCKING MINUTE FUCK YOU. I just can't get over how stupid that shit is that I missed outting the shenanigans with one fucking minute.

That pisses me off almost as much as the HERP DERP ALL ALONE IN THE SV NO TALKY ALLOWED. -.-

On another note, this almost guarantees that scum have daytalk privileges. Which sucks.

Anybody suspected of being scum should be shipped to SV so as to not be able to communicate with scumpartners.

[Maruchan]

OH ALSO, unless the mod forgot to PM me, nobody left the campfire last night.

[Lost Butterfly]

Given the nature of the set-up it's obvious scum would have daytalk.

[hitogoroshi]

I don't really see what distinguishes the lawyer from a framer? Whatever though that claim looks really true.

Almost tempted to say we save Magua a day and policy lynch a hard read, if we pl town marble gets another investigate and if we pl scum, wheee, pl scum and lynch magua scum tomorrow! But it's probably better to kill Magua and swing the chit balance further in our direction.

reads:

Lady Lambdadelta - town
SodaSpirit17 xReckonerX - mildly town for tone, but a pretty weak read
hitogoroshi - obvobv
Nautilius (Nachomamma8 + Ellibereth) - null. NACHO YOU SON OF A BITCH GET IN HERE.
Baby Spice - gut says town, no real reason tho
Plum - was null on plum, she's looking much better with username scumflip
Magua Nicodemus - cop guilty
tclawren - mildly town for tone, but a pretty weak read
Andrius - town
Zajnet - null
Maruchan - town
Llamarble - cop
Amrun - null
Regfan - town
Nobody Special - town
Lost Butterfly (Mina+Faraday) - TOWN

I have no scumreads right now. my big scumreads were username (and I was right, wheee!), llamarble (whose cop claim I'm believing unless something changes), and klazam who was town. (if he hadn't claimed his move check target, scum probably wouldn't have done the ragepile :/).

so I guess I'll just look in more detail at zajnet/amrun/nautilius. and throw in baby spice, tcla, and soda too.

[Maruchan]

mod-confirmed, mod didn't forget. All those in the campfire, stayed in the campfire.

[Llamarble]

Mafia lawyer makes false negatives, framer makes false positives.

[hitogoroshi]

Oh, okay, so you had role information that guilties are definitive and innos are not.

That is a completely zoraster thing to tell you.