Modern Family Mafia - Game Over, Man.

[gandalf5166]

/confirm

[gandalf5166]

VOTE: glowball

YOUR avatar scares me. I feel like as soon as it finishes eating that cookie, it's going to start on my brain. LETS NOT GIVE IT ENOUGH TIME TO FINISH THAT COOKIE

[gandalf5166]

Glowball is town.

VOTE:Grimmjow

Testing my psychic powers.

[gandalf5166]

Dammit, that doesn't work. Grimmjow has already posted. My psychic powers don't work on people who have already posted.

Unvote
VOTE: Ray Montano

[gandalf5166]

...

Vote: Gandalf

If you flip scum Grimm is next.

Yes, I unvoted my scumbuddy, because he was coming under such incredible amounts of pressure, if I had kept my vote on him, we would have been screwed. LOLNO

[gandalf5166]

Vote:Spyrex cuz Hayley's a fuckin idiot and I can see her being scum.

I thought that said Haylen and I was REALLLY confused.

It was awesome. I even had words posted then welp reading

I only just realized he didn't mean Haylen. I thought Hayley was some sort of nickname. I thought he was confused and thought you were an alt for some reason or something..... >.>

[gandalf5166]

I didn't even realize this game wasn't original flavor until the signup thread asked us to pick a character. So I literally have no idea about flavor >.>

[gandalf5166]

Unvote
VOTE: Grimmjow

What Nexus said. I guess I'm too late for a cookie.

[gandalf5166]

Grimmjow is town. Stop it.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[gandalf5166]

I'll admit to having little to no case on CSL.

glowball, however, is different. She's trying to lynch gandalf

for his avatar alone.

If she's town, that's anti-town, if she's scum, well.

Whoa, I am trying to get a wagon going that is all. Obviously that vote isn't serious but we have to start somewhere and I definitely didn't vote him with the intention that he would actually be lynched. Now if we gain information that says he should, if his reactions or the reactions of others bring up suspicion that's another thing. I have no reason to want Gandalf lynched and have never called him scum. It's a joke, I am not

that

stupid.

Then why are you still voting for me? There is a serious vote on me. There were two serious votes on me, that got added pretty quickly. For all you knew at the time, I was about to become a real wagon. Why would your vote stay on me?

[gandalf5166]

Dammit, I have to go so I didn't have time to get to this game. I'll post tomorrow, I promise.

[gandalf5166]

So glowball has claimed SK. Do we want to Lynch the SK, or leave him alive and see if he'll be a good boy?

[gandalf5166]

hahahahhahah what

gandalf, that wasn't the laim. And even if you thought it was, what sort of townside player wants the SK alive?

Vote: gandalf

I know that wasn't the claim. But that role makes no sense as town or scum. And scum have a lot more to worry about from the SK than town......... Idiot.

If he's this stupid, I really hope he doesn't go into rage mode. Because when people who are stupid get self-righteous, I get REALLY angry. Reck will probably have to force-replace me.

[gandalf5166]

I'm not a lurker. I was busy last weekend. You'll find I'm usually one of the most if not the most active players in the game. Meanwhile, what about actually adressing what I said instead of trying to scare me?

[gandalf5166]

@kuribo: you know who else might misshoot and hit town? A vig. Yeah, back in the idiot chair. And I was saying that Reck might have to force replace me because I could get too insulting even for him. Not that I would replace out because I was angry.

[gandalf5166]

I could get too insulting even for him.

Keep dreamin

I don't know, keep acting like a dumbass and we'll find out.

[gandalf5166]

@kuribo: I know, selfmeta, but anger is in fact a nulltell for me, especially if someone challenges my intelligence and/or playing ability(although I am aware I'm not a top-tier player). I also have a tendency to adopt a OMGUS attitude towards people who call me stupid, which is why I'm not voting for you yet even though my gut tells me you're scum. And by the way, I DON'T support keeping the SK alive in most early game situations. However, some people do. So I wanted to make sure people were looking at it as what it was, rather than thinking he was going to flip scum, before I jumped on the wagon and opened up the possibility of someone quickhammering.

UNVOTE
VOTE: glowball

The wagon is small enough now that I think those still on it know what they're voting for.

[gandalf5166]

Eh, so I'm hypocritical. Oh well.

[gandalf5166]

I didn't see what you saw, I just saw what nexus saw. I wanted a cookie though, so I lied. I don't remember exactly what nexus said and I'm on my phone now, so I'm not going to check. I don't really think he's scum anymore, but iirc he needs to post more often..

[gandalf5166]

I didn't see what you saw, I just saw what nexus saw. I wanted a cookie though, so I lied. I don't remember exactly what nexus said and I'm on my phone now, so I'm not going to check. I don't really think he's scum anymore, but iirc he needs to post more often..

Gandalf wanted the town cred with me. Check.

Right, that's why my vote was on Grimm long long after you got off.

[gandalf5166]

[quote="In post 259,

UNVOTE
VOTE: glowball

The wagon is small enough now that I think those still on it know what they're voting for.

Why do you think glow is scum. Who on the wagon do you believe knows what they are doing? LL, NS, Nexus?
You claiming all 3 is a town read to you?[/quote]
No, I'm just saying that if anyone on the wagon currently thinks glow is mafia rather than an SK, they're an idiot anyways. I didn't even look at who was on the wagon. That said, there's no point in being on this wagon is Spy is going to be a hardhead. I need to go back and find a new read.

Unvote

[gandalf5166]

Oh, duh. I knew this one.

Unvote
VOTE: RisingPhoenix

[gandalf5166]

Oh, duh. I knew this one.

Unvote
VOTE: RisingPhoenix

About freaking time gandalf.
So any reason?
I mean, besides the fact I'm voting you

I don't know, maybe hat your ISO consists entirely of VOTE GANDALF

CAUSE

UH

I SAID SO

[gandalf5166]

I would argue I've been talking abour Farrun more than about you, so that's kind of a lie.

You're still voting for me, so that's kind of a lie.

[gandalf5166]

Oh, look at that, it's a cheeky little SK. The only current wagon I would consider is NS. Where's the case on him?

[gandalf5166]

Oh, look at that, it's a cheeky little SK. The only current wagon I would consider is NS. Where's the case on him?

if you're so convinced, why not post your own case instead of waiting for someone else to do your legwork?

Because I'm not convinced, or I would have changed my vote.

[gandalf5166]

And we'll end up lynching mothrax eventually. If we can't get any other wagons going that would be a good compromise, but I don't have much of a read on him as is, so I'd rather try elsewhere first.

[gandalf5166]

tclawren, why are you still voting for Glowball? He can't be lynched without SpyreX, so we're going to have to wait until later at the very least.

[gandalf5166]

His first votehop has a reason to it, his second is (supposedly) random. You don't go back to RVS once you've left it for one thing.
in ISO 18 he even admits to a votehop without a fuckin clue what he jumped on
He then proceeds to OMGUS me and then in his 24 says he apparently only suppports a lynch on NS, still while voting me. You'd think he'd actually believe the person he's voting is scum.
Heck, he won't even provide a reason for wanting NS lynch, he just says he'll sheep if someone gives him a case to sheep.

Besides that he hasn't posted any content whatsoever, all he's done is provide defense. No reads, no thoughts.

And Farrun saying we should lynch ANOTHER of the VI is hilariously incriminating

Everything in this case is a lie. How did you even MANAGE that?

[gandalf5166]

His first votehop has a reason to it, his second is (supposedly) random. You don't go back to RVS once you've left it for one thing.
in ISO 18 he even admits to a votehop without a fuckin clue what he jumped on
He then proceeds to OMGUS me and then in his 24 says he apparently only suppports a lynch on NS, still while voting me. You'd think he'd actually believe the person he's voting is scum.
Heck, he won't even provide a reason for wanting NS lynch, he just says he'll sheep if someone gives him a case to sheep.

Besides that he hasn't posted any content whatsoever, all he's done is provide defense. No reads, no thoughts.

And Farrun saying we should lynch ANOTHER of the VI is hilariously incriminating

First of all, my vote on Grimm was DEFINITELY random. I said "testing my psychic powers". How is that not random. Two, I knew what I was jumping on. Just because the first person to vote for a person didn't have a reason doesn't mean the rest of the wagon is invalid. Three, it's not OMGUS. Notice I don't think kuribo is scum. Because he isn't. You are. Notice his posts aren't bullshit. The game needs a bigger wagon. Me being the only vote on your wagon isn't doing much good. So I was looking at the VC to see if any of the other wagons were close to good. Not because you aren't scum, but because we need a lynch today, and there are probably more than one of you. The NS wagon was the only one that looked like it might be on scum, but I mainly just have a gut feeling(hence, I don't have a reason yet, so I didn't switch my vote). So I was looking for a case to see if there was anything more legitimate, yes.

[gandalf5166]

His first votehop has a reason to it, his second is (supposedly) random. You don't go back to RVS once you've left it for one thing.
in ISO 18 he even admits to a votehop without a fuckin clue what he jumped on
He then proceeds to OMGUS me and then in his 24 says he apparently only suppports a lynch on NS, still while voting me. You'd think he'd actually believe the person he's voting is scum.
Heck, he won't even provide a reason for wanting NS lynch, he just says he'll sheep if someone gives him a case to sheep.

Besides that he hasn't posted any content whatsoever, all he's done is provide defense. No reads, no thoughts.

And Farrun saying we should lynch ANOTHER of the VI is hilariously incriminating

What, so posting fuck all useful all game isn't scummy?

Really?

... I'm trying to get him lynched. I'm saying he IS fucking scummy -_-

@Gandalf: the votehop isn't random when you unvote Glowball saying she is town.

Yeah. I had a townread. Doesn't mean I had a scumread.

[gandalf5166]

I am happy with my vote where it is. I could (probably) be convinced to move my vote to avoid a no lynch.

I am reasonably sure that glowball is scum.

As for my inactivity, I kinda forgot about this game till I got prodded. And I've been out most all day.

Once again: Glowball can't be lynched without SpyreX's help. Why are you wasting your vote?

[gandalf5166]

You're assuming that based on glowball's word. I, for one, don't believe her.

And you're SERIOUSLY willing to risk a no-lynch based on a hunch?

[gandalf5166]

I don't need to see the case. This is ridiculous. RP can die later(HINTHINT GLOWBALL).

Unvote
VOTE: NS

[gandalf5166]

I am happy with my vote where it is. I could (probably) be convinced to move my vote to avoid a no lynch.

um wait

no lynch is universally the worst-case scenario for any town... and you're not entirely sure you could be convinced to help avoid it?

Obviously he's not thinking in those terms..... He's voting for no lynch, right now.

[gandalf5166]

LLD is town. Her reads on RP and NS are , but she's town.

[gandalf5166]

95% of my reads are usually gut, so. If there's a particular post that contributes to my read, I'll usually quote it, but other than that, I don't make cases usually.

[gandalf5166]

95% of my reads are usually gut, so. If there's a particular post that contributes to my read, I'll usually quote it, but other than that, I don't make cases usually.

if that's how you play as town, you are hurting your town and playing counter to good gameplay

That's just how my reads work. Whenever I try doing it the other way, I almost always end up getting lynched because my posting looks really forced(because it is).

[gandalf5166]

Bah.

Unvote
VOTE: CSL

[gandalf5166]

I don't think that's a good reason for us to move our votes. Scum watchers are more common than town ones(in my experience).

[gandalf5166]

Vote: gandalf

And what would happen when I flip town?

A town watcher would be dead. It's a powerful role for town, but like I said, it actually INCREASES the likelihood of you being scum, and I definitely don't want to leave you alive if you are. And even if the claim did make me want to start a new wagon, we don't have time.

[gandalf5166]

Kuribo, there isn't enough time. Between deciding whether we still want to lynch CSL, deciding who else to lynch, and then actually getting enough people online in the next 24 hours to lynch them, we'd almost certainly end up with a no lynch.

[gandalf5166]

LLD is obvious town. Shoot ME.

[gandalf5166]

Oh shit, I'm on my phone, stupid auto correct. That's supposed to say NS. >.>

[gandalf5166]

You can tell, if you look at one of my recent posts(elsewhere) you'll see me use the word Lynch and it's capitalized because my phone automatically does that.

[gandalf5166]

My phone is more flexible( I can even add words to the dictionary fairly easily, so it'll stop correcting them, as I just did with NS). But some words it's decided have to be capitalized and it won't let me correct it permanently, so I have to manually override it every time, which I usually don't bother to do. I have a Droid.

[gandalf5166]

.......Okay, I have absolutely no idea why either glowball or scum would have shot nexus.

VOTE:RisingPhoenix

Also, just noticed this:

gandalf5166 (3): RisingPhoenix

Guessing this is a mistake?

[gandalf5166]

Glowball, by your logic, the only person you COULD have killed is CSL, because he's the only person we found scummy enough to Lynch. You're an idiot.

[gandalf5166]

I guess I am an idiot. I just thought there was reason you all were alive. I am still sitting here and I don't see how it's pro town to kill me at all. I have a vig shot on odd nights and you guys need to just tell me what you want. I am here if I am instructed

Nexus was also alive for a reason. The difference was that there was ONE PERSON who suspected him, as opposed to the large wagons that built up on me, LLD, and NS. Not to mention that EVERYBODY other than Kats had a townread on Nexus.

[gandalf5166]

So glowball has promised to be directed.... but has basically proven he's going to kill whoever the fuck he wants to. Fun.

VOTE: glowball

Come on Spy. The SK isn't cooperating.

[gandalf5166]

Glow, why would me and kuribo kill you?

[gandalf5166]

Sure she does.

I'll buy it when I see it because this is HARD ROCK GOLD town read.

Gold is very soft.

[gandalf5166]

Katsuki is definitely town from the way he claimed. Kuribo is definitely town because he is. Ignore 1v1, and ignore Kats coming in and derping shortly. Recommence Glowball lynchingz.

[gandalf5166]

On a different actual note - why Nexus?

Was this directed toward me? I picked Nexus to send an ability to on Night 1, because (as I said on Day 1) I found him to be most likely town. Frankly, he was actually the player that I had the strongest town read on going into Night 1.

Somehow missed this: I would have been worried about scum nightkilling him. Any particular reason you weren't? You should probably give that some thought when you're choosing your Target for tonight.

[gandalf5166]

Townside Inventor

Night 1, I tried to pass on a cop investigation to Nexus. I'm betting that Kats saw me and is a scumside Tracker (since he probably forgot that we had a Watcher that died)


in short, get fucked

Wait what the fuck is this shit.

KURIBO, explain, why nexus.
Because this smells of ALL SORTS OF FAKECLAIMING

Like I said. Derping.


Kuribo is town because he hasn't said a scummy word all game. Like I said, stop the derpfest and lynch glowball already.

[gandalf5166]

Bulletproof vig has NEVER happened before. I have literally never seen it. It doesn't happen, and Reck is smart enough to know it's hilariously overpowered. Guess how many times I've seen SK claim bulletproof vig.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, here's the deal: I've played with NS before. He thinks I'm an idiot. So him taking posts that I guarantee are right(kuribo and kats ARE town, and glowball will flip SK) and then acting like they're idiotic and then claiming that he doesn't think I'm an idiot is ridiculous. That said, SK dies before scum, to remove a nightkill.

[gandalf5166]

Well, either way, glow needs to die. She's definitely scum of some sort.

[gandalf5166]

Although if she does flip mafia, I call Spy as a buddy. Glowball isn't ballsy enough to think up that gambit by herself, and plus the whole "I can only be lynched by Hayley" thing reeks of Spy trying for towncred(while also guaranteeing that glowball only dies if it really starts to look hopeless).

[gandalf5166]

letting her live though tells us more about her and the setup, though. If she kills tonight, we know she was lying about only getting a kill on some nights. We'd also confirm either her and me, her, me and a third person, or just me. Meanwhile, if she is town, scum need Spyre to die first. (this doesn't mean Spyre is town) so they can either kill me to stop the handoff, or kill spyre to get at glowball

I don't see how any of this information is worth leaving her alive.

[gandalf5166]

Umm..... All that info could be found out simply by you giving your invention to SOMEONE ELSE.

[gandalf5166]

Glowball, why on earth would scum nightkill you? You're an EASY mislynch, and as long as you're alive, you'll kill off town for them.

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, my phone always has Mafiascum up and online, so I don't think it ever looks like I log off >.>b

I set it to not show when I'm online because I was tired of getting in trouble for that.

DELTA

DONT BE POLITE

GIVE IN TO YOUR ANGER

JOIN THE DARK SIDE, LUKE

[gandalf5166]

Oh and by the by, Glowball, we are 100% directing your shots, or you 100% die. And your little dog too.

See: Nexus death.

[gandalf5166]

Kuribo, I have a better idea. We lynch glowball, and you give your cop investigation to someone who we can trust with it? Glowball has no reason to tell us the truth about her result. Even if you give it to scum, at least we can entirely ignore it once they flip. If you give it to glowball it'll just cause a huge infight with town once she flips SK over whether she would have told the truth or not.

[gandalf5166]

I WANNA SEE GI ON KURIBO ON FATE THREEWAY RAGE

KURIBO

CALL FATE SCUM

I'm on my phone right now, Farrun. I'll give you an answer for that later today when I can have multiple tabs open and such.

[gandalf5166]

LLD is definitely town. Stop derping Fate. I know you're town, so stop derping.

Scum are RP, NS and *mystery third person that my gut says is Spy*. If there's a fourth person(read: if glowball somehow isn't the SK lol), I would say DeltaWave. Mothrax was scummy and DW hasn't done anything to make me change my mind about his slot.

[gandalf5166]

Okay. Wanna make an avatar bet on it? She's town. I just got done playing with townLLD, and this is her.

[gandalf5166]

Okay. Wanna make an avatar bet on it? She's town. I just got done playing with townLLD, and this is her.

This is the only warning that will be issued for this: do NOT make out of game bets, or bring out of game influences into the game. It is explicitly against site rules. Don't fucking cross this line again -- ANYONE.

Oh, sorry, I legitimately didn't realize this. I'd seen them made before, I guess that's a new rule? Oops

[gandalf5166]

Farrun, are you retarded? Leaving an SK alive is only good if they're going to listen to you. We gave glowball that chance. She either chose to disobey or is just too fucking stupid to cooperate. Either way, she's going to be killing town. We Lynch her now, we essentially save one townie every other night.

[gandalf5166]

No, scum can't endgame an SK. They have to actually kill them one way or another. At least in a Reck game, as evidenced by Lost S2 Mafia.

[gandalf5166]

she does damage tonight --> we kill her --> she loses if she is the SK

Let me draw out some possibilities here.

(1) Glowball is telling the truth and is odd-night bulletproof vig.
(2) Glowball is a serial-killer.
(3) Glowball is scum.
(4) Glowball is town-aligned vanilla or PR and is claiming bulletproof vig for some reason.

Possibility four is in there for the sake of being complete but I don't think it's likely.

So obviously a glowball lynch would be bad in Option 1, but not in Option 2 or 3. So to me, it's a more conservative bet to do a glowball lynch today. There's less risk associated with it.

Quilford, do you have any quotes or anything that make you believe that Option 1 is more likely than 2 or 3?

You're retarded 0_o

1) we want her alive
2) a second kill will show and we'll know she's BSing us -> lynch
3) a second kill WONT show on N3 and we'll know she's BSing us -> lynch
4) we want her alive

The only one of these that actually works/is true is 2.

[gandalf5166]

Delta Wave is probably just derping considering that we already have three scum and an SK. We should lynch them first.

[gandalf5166]

Lol he called GI and kuribo scum. Yeah, he's town.

[gandalf5166]

Lol he called GI and kuribo scum. Yeah, he's town.

How does that make him town? GI and Kuribo are both townish to me.

No, they're both in my top 3 firmest townreads in the game(the other is Fate. Seriously, what the fuck is up with that wagon, there's no way Kats was scum). Which is why he's town. Scum don't openly attack the most obvtown players in the game.

[gandalf5166]

No, it's not. Name one reason why scum would try to push towards a kuribo lynch. There's no way he's actually getting lynched, they're likely to catch a lot of flak for it, and they can just nightkill him anyways. Why would they put him on his suspect list?

[gandalf5166]

Lol he called GI and kuribo scum. Yeah, he's town.

How does that make him town? GI and Kuribo are both townish to me.

No, they're both in my top 3 firmest townreads in the game(the other is Fate. Seriously, what the fuck is up with that wagon, there's no way Kats was scum). Which is why he's town. Scum don't openly attack the most obvtown players in the game.

LOL

so this game I'm OBVTOWN because of my replacement and you'll ignore reading me?

That could be really dangerous you know

What the fuck could Kats have done to be obvtown anyway?

Gandalf is probably a cop with an innocent on me, being a blatant fool with his breadcrumbs

(Hint: Kill gandalf, not me or Kuribo. We're useless townies who dont afraid of anything)

Read the part where your predecessor claimed their track result. You're town.

No, it's not. Name one reason why scum would try to push towards a kuribo lynch. There's no way he's actually getting lynched, they're likely to catch a lot of flak for it, and they can just nightkill him anyways. Why would they put him on his suspect list?

oh, by the way, i read this as, "god dammit, don't try and lynch him, we can just NK him!"

Only like I said, there's no way you're ever getting lynched. If there were. why would hypothetical scum-me want to NK you? Your point defeats itself.

[gandalf5166]

"The wagonon me is a distrction"

LOL thats not something town says catgirl

I thought it was obvious that she was talking about you and GI fighting.

[gandalf5166]

shit. Fuck.

don't do that. What am I stupid? Scum would just NK THAT PERSON AND LEAVE ME WITH MY DICK IN MY HAND

So everybody posts a top 3, and you choose one out of the three that receive the most votes. My three are Fate, GI and LLD. If LLD gets lynched today, switch her for me.

In other news, Fate called Spy scum. Since Fate is town(and I don't recall Fate ever being wrong about Spy) WE GET TO LYNCH SPYSPY

VOTE: SpyreX

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I never claimed vanilla

Lol

[gandalf5166]

Wait dammit I forgot glowball is still fucking alive

UNVOTE

VOTE: glowball

More important.

[gandalf5166]

gandalf, why are you protecting LLD? Would you like to share something with the town?

and gandalf, I wouldn't pass LLD a cop investigation if my own nuts came to life and sang an 80s style power ballad called "Give LLD the investigation," and that song went on to make the Billboard Top 40 and became one of the most beloved songs of our generation

You have no heart. I have no info on LLD, other than the fact that she's town. I honestly don't see her actions coming from scum.

PEDIT: lolyup spy is scum

[gandalf5166]

Nah man pass me the investigation

Trust me you will not regret it

lolimseriouslydoubtingmytownreadonyoucauseyoureclearlyanidiotanywayssomyargumentsayingyouweretownthatwasbasedonyouhavingabrainisprettyinvalid

That turned out being longer than I thought it was going to be, but I'm too lazy to add spaces.

[gandalf5166]

$10 says scum have daytalk

I can feel it

It's a reck game. Nobody would bother taking that bet.

[gandalf5166]

vote: glowball

As bizarre as it is, she really is scum lol.

[gandalf5166]

Kuribo, lynching Spy first doesn't make sense. If glowball is a SK, he needs to die today. I think it's more likely he's just scum, but he needs to die first just in case. If we lynch Spy and glowball is an SK, he kills tonight and town autoloses.

[gandalf5166]

At this point why would you think glowball is an SK?

We've had one kill every night.

I'm still baffled as to why scum would claim vig. The point is, it's possible and I really don't want to take the risk.

[gandalf5166]

Hold up reading all the words now:

If glowball IS an SK, how would that = town loses tonight?

7 people alive now. We lynch you, you flip scum. Mafia and him kill, 4 left, 2:1:1. No matter which scum is lynched, they kill and it's 1:1.

[gandalf5166]

Hold up reading all the words now:

If glowball IS an SK, how would that = town loses tonight?

7 people alive now. We lynch you, you flip scum. Mafia and him kill, 4 left, 2:1:1. No matter which scum is lynched, they kill and it's 1:1.

whatcha really scared of?

What the fuck are you even talking about? I mean, yeah, as scum, I'd want him dead, but that doesn't affect the reality of what I just said.

PEDIT: No, I don't get why scum would claim a role that can be easily disproved. Why would we lynch SPY first?

[gandalf5166]

Okay. Whatever. if you're convinced she's scum, WHY ARENT YOU VOTING FOR HER.

[gandalf5166]

BECAUSE I'M VOTING FOR HER PARTNER, YOU FLAMING ASS MASTER

Her partner doesn't have a risk of being an SK and causing town to autolose.

[gandalf5166]

I'm not saying Spy isn't scum, and that he shouldn't die. I'm saying there's no point in him dying TODAY over glowball.

[gandalf5166]

SHOW ME ONE FUCKING SCRAP OF EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE GROUP MAKING THE KILLS


SHOW ME ONE FUCKING DEAD BODY

WHAT ARE THE FUCKING ODDS THAT THE TWO NIGHTS GLOWBALL CLAIMED HER KILLS, MAFIA "NO-KILLED" OR GOT BLOCKED, OR WHATEVER?

WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT CAN SHED LIGHT ON THIS?

None of these questions are relevant if you can't come up with a reason why Spy should die first.

[gandalf5166]

Or NS and gandalf?

that would blow my fucking mind

[gandalf5166]

Okay, so it's time for a massclaim now, because we need to explain the missing kills and it's LyLo.

I'm a VT.

[gandalf5166]

Sweet Jesus you at least have to check the site once a day, RP.

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Spy, why did you leave out the GI lynch?

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Just realized that based on the claims we have(read: all of them) glowball shot someone the scum were already shooting. Epic fail on SK play AND vig play. LOL

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He's saying that YOUR vote aligns with LLD....... Don't think that's relevant.

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I personally think RP and Spy are most likely both scum, but I'd probably go with Spy first.

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Actually, that's a really good point.

Wait, RP, when did you get the vanillaizer?

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That's much iffier logic. How was Spy "indisputably" roleblocked? And actually, yes, as scum you WOULD want those vanillaizers floating around.

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No, he didn't. He specifically said he doesn't receive feedback on whether he's roleblocked.

And vanillaizers have never ever taken away the NK. The NK is a FACTIONAL ability.

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No, he didn't. He specifically said he doesn't receive feedback on whether he's roleblocked.

And vanillaizers have never ever taken away the NK. The NK is a FACTIONAL ability.

I'll have to go back and check but I thought there was a time where his target died, indicating that he was RB'ed.

Anyway don't get focused on the vanillaizers. Kuribo could also make one-shot cop investigations. Clearly I would have tried to block that.

Not if you have a godfather on your team. That and, as a claimed roleblocker, we both know who'd get lynched if kuribo ended up roleblocked. My point is, there are lots of reasons why you wouldn't use it on kuribo.

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Yes, it does require a certain scenario. But there are SO MANY scenarios that it doesn't leave you even semi-cleared.

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That said, since RP is semi-cleared, I'm REALLY baffled as to whether NS or DW are the last scum. Now granted, DW/Spy team explains a lot(and makes for a simple solution to why Spy's bodyguard didn't go through), but I think NS's play is worse than DW's. I'm gonna do some reading.

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Yes. That's my point. *facepalm*

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That sure reads like I have the bodyguard.

Also, if I'm scum and scum with DW why in the HELL is this game a fat stack of nothing right now and I've got a vote parked on my 'teammate'?

Bussing. It's tech.

Although actually, we can safely say that at least one of Spy or DW is scum. Or there's only one more scum for some reason.

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Lol I didn't even have to quickhammer. I don't know how Spy wasn't dead within an hour of the last day starting.

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I want the bastardmod!

Also, as soon as glowball claimed he was only bulletproof while Hayley was alive I knew Spy was screwed because that only made sense if Hayley was scum...... oh wait. Nobody but me thought that at all. What the fuck?

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~24.
Same as RMMMM.

Also, I'm not seeing how glowball being tied to SpyreX made SpyreX scum.

Well, it just wouldn't make sense as a design choice to tie him to town. Then he's basically a vig.

Also, you left out kuribo's role in the role PMs.

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Oh BTW I'd like to use this game as proof that Fate really does just randomly decide at the start of the game whether I'm scum or not and then just runs with it, and is in fact entirely incapable of reading me.

Oh yeah, that was funny N3 when we forgot our actions and then glowball got lynched partially because of it. Gives me deja vu. I think stuff like that happens to me a lot.

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Seriously shut the fuck up.

I come in lynch scum and call out SpyreX scum PERFECTLY but its "Lol Fate just flips a coin and decides what to go on from there"

I ACTUALLY

PLAY THIS FUCKING GAME CALLED MAFIA

AND READ PLAYERS POSTS

YOU DISRESPECTFUL FUCK

Not saying you're not usually pretty accurate, but your history with me is laughable. And yeah, you put me on a couple of "to kill" lists, but I think kuribo's the only person who you never put on one of those lists at some point.

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glowball, I was the only player on my team likely to survive the game(really, REALLY didn't expect Spy to last >.>) and I had a bulletproof vest. I wasn't pushing your lynch out of fear.

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BTW, this is the second game(first was PYP) in the last like two weeks where the rest of my team assumed I was going to be the first to die and made plans around it, and then I survived to endgame as the towniest member of my team(well, people thought Faraday was more town, but he was "confirmed" so it doesn't count ).

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Only you were an SK. You were going to get lynched eventually. And you were an extra kill that definitely wasn't going to hit scum. So why would I want you dead as scum? I did it for the towncred.

OS, I'll talk about that after it's over.

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Once again: You're a great scumhunter when it comes to 95% of the site. That's respect. But there are certain players like me and GI that you can't read worth a shit. So yeah, I'm not gonna talk about this anymore, and I'll stop bringing it up in the future. Hell, I won't even bring it up in the endgame of [REDACTED]. It was a dick move to even bring it up this game, because just like you saying I'm scared of you as scum bruises MY ego because I'm proud of my scumplay, me saying you can't read me bruises your ego because you're really proud of your townplay. So I figure we just need to stop being dicks to each other, and I accept that I'm largely the reason for it, and it pretty much started with where I was pissed after Resurgence or whatever Andy's game was called. Sorry.

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Scum didn't deserve to win this.

How so? If you really believe that, tell us why.