Bastardmind of Sin - GAME OVER

[Bogre]

/confirm that I am a sucker

[Bogre]

My rolename is ridiculous. Not even close to the one I requested -_-

Same...which leads me to believe that he shuffled the UPick names around...that means someone could have the name I requested...

Which could be very very bad...

Oh shit. If he shuffled upicks?

lololololololol

lol thats some baaaaaastard modding.

[Bogre]

@Bogre: Oh snap, bastard modding in a bastard game? Say it ain't so!

It was an unexpected degree of bastardity! I'm excited for this game.

16 people voting for themselves this week...lynch # = freevoting number, haha. I think they should fakevote so scum don't coast and hide because they can't move their vote, in this manner:

Suckeris: X

Suckerain't: X

lol@aurorus

[Bogre]

Why are you people so blind to the obvscum of LK?

He got his panties into a bit of a bunch but I don't think he's obvscum by any means. I wanna see how he reacts before I get on his wagon, and I'm happy with the vezok wagon.

Vote: Stevie

Waiting and building a possible wagon jump is scummy.

Secondly, you don't think vezok is scum per se, but you're happy with being on that wagon? Is that because you're happy you don't have to supply that much reasoning for being on it?

[Bogre]

I was unaware that Vezok had a history of being crappy at mafia. For that reason I will

unvote

. I do not really support policy lynches or any sort of meta like that at all, so unless I start getting a real scum read off of Vezok I'm not for lynching him.

It's only getting better as I read it.

This begs the question of why you were voting him in the first place? You had stated you were -happy- with the wagon.

[Bogre]

Why don't you try reading my posts where I explain why I voted him, and where I explain why I unvoted him.

Okay:

I am suicidal, so I will do the vote count. Also

vote: Vezok

^ This doesn't look like you had reasons to vote him. Your only post before that was you confirming. You never gave reasons before you stated you were 'happy' with the vezok wagon, which, by the way, you started. Then your unvote, with the stated reasoning being: you don't like meta or policy lynching. Which still leaves unanswered, what I asked before: Why were you happy with the wagon to begin with?

[Bogre]

On the second page of D1, I voted vezok because posting about your ability immediately is an anti-town thing to do. However, it's not a scum tell, and the fact that people were discussing policy lynching him lead me to realize that he is a bad player. He did something that a bad player would do. That wasn't worth 2 votes past the RVS, and I didn't want to be a part of a policy lynch.

1. You're posting reasons after the fact.
2. Your posted reason is: 'It's anti-town, but not scummy' which, by the application of your vote, suggests you would be willing and by your own words, 'happy' with a wagon that's pushing, for your stated opinions, what is essentially voting to punish(which is in the vein of policy lynching), since you didn't think he was scummy. Yet right after Ghostwriter starts smashing the policy lynch of Vezo (and GW who has had people proxy to him, which makes him look like a power player) you unvote and claim you don't like policy or meta.

[Bogre]

I'm not liking stevie or T-Bone at the moment, not sure why.

I don't like how T-Bone made an incredibly crappy point against me, and then immediately backed off of it. That's the scummiest thing I've seen so far this game, so I will

vote: T-Bone

Starting up the chainsaw.

[Bogre]

how is voting someone for a weak reason during RVS anything like policy lynching?

Policy lynching is lynching an anti-town player who could bring harm to the town. Voting someone like you did for the reason of 'them being anti-town' as a 'punishment' lies in a similar vein.

[Bogre]

THAT'S NOT A CHAINSAW IT'S A BUS ATTEMPT
IF YOU WANNA USE BUZZWORDS LEARN YOUR GLOSSARY

That's on my radar, yes.

And to Stevie: I never said it was equal to, but it is similar, and I was using it to demonstrate a mismatch in your stated opinion.

And still, you're obscuring the point. You were happy with the wagon (without any stated reasons) and yet you backed off really quickly the moment someone started bashing that wagon, with a really contrived sounding post.

[Bogre]

I was unaware that Vezok had a history of being crappy at mafia.

For that reason I will

unvote

.

I do not really support policy lynches or any sort of meta like that

at all

, so unless I start getting a real scum read off of Vezok I'm not for lynching him.

Also, policy lynching is based on PAST GAMES, which is the part I object to.

[Bogre]

FoS: IAmAlwaysMafia

Bad case. Over exaggeration. Stevie hasn't been flaunting it being a "pain' at all, actually. It was mentioned in one post in a response to the mod. Stevie's response to the case is pretty terrible too, but there's my first suspect.

Scum

/agree

[Bogre]

steve @ actively lurking and berating a cop with no counter claim
glad he isn't the narrator anymore

My beef is along the same lines, in addition to everything I've stated before. He's doing stuff and fluff- actions that keep him present but I don't see much basis behind his votes beyond easy seeming attacks and distraction.

[Bogre]

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastermind of Sin
VOTE: Mastermind of Sin

This helps the town 0.

[Bogre]

I'm a muppet. I'm also wondering if this muppet-phase is just temporary, that we play 1 day as muppets than revert back to our old roles. Or something new entirely.

Obvious that Surye needs to be lynched.

VOTE: Surye

The roleswapping things sounds like it's kind of gamebreaking.

[Bogre]

Toon is bussing.

[Bogre]

@Took: Yep, that's what I was referring too.

[Bogre]

A good lie detector question:

Toon Fighter, are you bussing Surye?

Or did the lie detector get muppetized?

[Bogre]

lol im getting wagonned why exactly?

Cause you were scum day 1 and nothing changed ?

You've also just bounced around to everyone that other people thought were scum, or that had wagons, with no real original thoughts of your own.

Wraith I think is right on about the cult and the scumkill flavor being modkilled.

-Bogre

[Bogre]

Scumtastic try guys.

My upick submitted was Bulletproof Townie.

~This amazing post brought to you by the letter "H" and PeregrineV

Okay, in a game like this, it actually makes me think that the role would end up being Bulletproof Townie, mafia member. :/

-Bogre, not Booger

[Bogre]

VOTE: Stevie

Forgot to tack this on in my haste to remember to sign.

-Bogre

[Bogre]

So, it

should

have changed, and it's unusual that it didn't?

Mine didn't change. I think there were Shenanigans that changed others' roles.

-Bogre

[Bogre]

T-Bone, what's your Muppet role-name? I'd hate to overlap, when I put up my claim.

...? Explain.

-Bogre

[Bogre]

You will be unprepared.

/loves Sucker Punch.

In other news, I don't know where T-bone is getting scum on SKrew, more like just to spearhead something that isn't himself being lynched. Null on Tbone at the moment; let's lynch Stevie.

[Bogre]

Bogre's a new one benmage could you elaborate and show me your reasoning

Reasoning.....

Is that a prerequisite now.... ...Like I said. I would look at his iso. Because its very small for a game of this size. There's also very little actual content. With large gaps of 0 content. Fits the mold for active lurking.

Plus he attacks Stevie from and early point. Jumps around, and returns to Stevie. Potential bussing here is certainly a possibility.

Med student, block exams.

I did attack Stevie from an early point, because I thought he was scum. I tunneled him pretty heavily, but again, he was the most scummiest. Ironic how locking onto scum can in the end make you look scummy, but I understand where you're coming from.

[Bogre]

Vezok stump in a bastard game is just more random noise.

I'm going to check the wagons on stevie/against Stevie, cause I've got little else to go on at the moment. This game has been chaos. Fun, crazy bastard chaos, but I agree with whoever said its essentially 93 pages of RVS.

[Bogre]

Vezok should be narrator.

[Bogre]

UNVOTE VOTE: TOON FIGHTER

[Bogre]

Wait, how was there another cultist?

[Bogre]

Simple answer: No cult leader has flipped.

Except that a bunch of cult died at once, which makes me think the leader got killed.

[Bogre]

Sounds like a town or third party power more than a scum power, at least.

[Bogre]

VOTE: singersinger

Enough for me. She's not been prodded, has she?

[Bogre]

Works for me, too. I can see an SK in this setup getting a power that allows him to get multiple votes, putting him on par with a cult.

VOTE: PDC

[Bogre]

VOTE: Benmage

[Bogre]

Eh, usually you only get anti-town to cult cops, I thought.

[Bogre]

HOLD THE PHONE, LET'S STOP RIGHT THERE.

UNVOTE

*peer Samantha* What was that?

[Bogre]

No, I want to hear from your lips what that was.

[Bogre]

No, I want to hear from your lips what that was.

Why did you unvote me?

Because as SK you might be our best shot at cult, no? I thought Samantha was trying to quickhammer you, it wasn't until I looked back that she was someone already on you, and I asked her what happened because I wanted to see if she'd say it was fake or she forgot she was voting for some reason.

[Bogre]

No, I want to hear from your lips what that was.

Why did you unvote me?

Because as SK you might be our best shot at cult, no?

I thought Samantha was trying to quickhammer you,

it wasn't until I looked back that she was someone already on you, and I asked her what happened because I wanted to see if she'd say it was fake or she forgot she was voting for some reason.

Are you fucking retarded? Is your IQ standard. Because I don't want to be mean if you have mental malfunctions. LOOK AT THE LARGE WORDS. If she had hammered me, WOULD YOUR UNVOTE HAVE DONE ANYTHING??

(The answer is no. You placed me at L-1, essentially begging for a hammer)

Uh, no. I generally don't speak in twilight, i.e. when someone's been hammered. I didn't post until I'd looked back to see who had voted you. I'd appreciate it if you not start raging and try to insult my mental faculties before you think things through a little bit.

Me thinking she was

trying

to quickhammer you isn't mutually exclusive with me knowing you [/b]WEREN'T[/b] hammered. I knew, after I looked at the other page, that you weren't hammered, and thus unvoted in case someone ELSE was going to try. I thought sam herself might have forgotten that you were L-1 with her vote and tried to eliminate you, which is why I asked. My vote should have came off before that but I honestly was paying less attention as another game was endgaming.

[Bogre]

Let.
Me.
Spell.
It.
Out.

I knew she didn't actually hammer when I unvoted.

I saw her vote, went 'oh shit', checked back for the vote count, simultaneously realized that she had 1)ALREADY voted you, 2) thus you were still L-1 and I needed to unvote.

Then

I posted. Thus my question to her, because I wondered wtf she was doing: Why was she revoting you? I wanted her to answer without the possibility of her parroting one of my thoughts about her reasoning. One of those thoughts was, she was paying little attention and thought she could ace the night kill and end the day's discussion.

I can explain for a third time with different words if you ask me the same question, again.

You guys happen to be absolutely correct on one part: I put you at L-1 with little thought; I wasn't even cognizant of which vote I actually was on you (I.e. the L-1 vote). It was a rote 'guilty on Benmage, vote Benmage,' without looking as closely at how many votes were already placed. Hell, I probably would have unknowingly hammered you myself if you'd been at L-1, cause I just wasn't paying that close attention. Sorry. I wasn't trying to 'set you up to be hammered', I was just voting on algorithm, guilty investigation on X, vote X.

Secondly, what motive do you think I have to unvote you (or, as you are misunderstanding at this point, fake-unvoting you) that you are getting so angry about? Do you think I'm trying to curry town-cred?

[Bogre]

Possibility for the no kill is that he was culted?

[Bogre]

No kill cant possibly mean culted... why do people let bogre play??

If you were culted beforehand, and lost your ability, obviously.

Secondly, I can't imagine why you are trying to goad me. I'm not exactly one to easily rise to anger, slights, or the massive rudeness you've shown me. So please, if it's carthartic for your frustration or whatever, continue.

[Bogre]

Samantha: Any reason a kill on you wouldn't go through?

[Bogre]

PeregrineV- Happy with the Wraith lynch, would have been ok with the Benmage lynch as a second. Moreso today as we've seen no kills last night, including modkills. Only reason I dont vig him is because we can use the discussion. Also, you asked three of us about a roleblock. Not sure why, cause I didn't have a roleblocking ability.

Samantha97- I think your reasoning falls through because I don't think there's any mafia left. Mafia would have had to kill last night if there's a large cult following to have a shot at winning. I think at this point we have 1-2 cultists left without a leader, and the leader flipped scum without showing the leader status. Otherwise, we have mafia not killing and we're fucked anyway.

Part of my role claimed that the person I target also gets a roleblock to use the following night. Since I wasn't sure of sanity, I didn't say anything, and now they are all dead except you and BenMage.
Guessing now that part was bastard.

So who did you investigate that could have gotten a roleblock? If BM was roleblocked, it's likely the blocker was cult.