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Herodotus wrote:Hm. If kills resolve before recruitment, does the person recruiting need to survive the night to carry out the recruitment?
Nah - think of it more as a 'the person doesn't make up their mind to accept the recruitment until all other options are exhausted'. For similar reasons, recruited couldn't change their night actions just because they were recruited.Retired as of October 2014.-
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In post 3681, Yosarian2 wrote:Andrius wrote:Next time we're killing Yos N0.
(shrug) Next time, cult recruiter shouldn't target me night zero. That nearly cost Kinetic the game back on day 1, it was too obvious.
See, the best thing about Flay games is that you get a nice mix of oldies and newer players (and people in the middle like me).
I like Cult games because they're a challenge.
But its hard to balance them and most mods can't get that to that level.-
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Okay, I'm pretty sure this translation of my spreadsheet is accurate:- Night Zero: Only recruiters get to act;Kineticchooses Yos, of course, andABRrecruited Porochaz.2-2-23.
- Day One:Chronopie, the rerecruitable Private Investigator, gets lynched. inHim replaces Dry-Fit, LLD replaces Cecily. Andrius replaces RaudhrGarm.All of my clever naming gets jacked up trying to wedge replacements' names in.Factions stand at2-2-22.
- Night One:
- LLDdefendsAndriusfrom recruitment.
- bvoigtdefendsDGBfrom recruitment, which succeeds thesecondNight is takes effect.
- LudijailkeepsYosarian2, spoiling his recruitment action.
- DGBmisses her night choice.
- xvartblocksThAdmiralfrom visiting #21.
- TanaringuardsDGB's life.
- populartajoalso protectsDGB's life.
- Zdenekprotectsooba.
- BattousaikillsinHimin the street.
- NStries to killYosarian, who is in jail and thus safe.
- ABRwants to recruitLLD(which he can't), but screws up and shows Katsuki his QuickTopic in meat world, so has to havePorochazrecruit Katsuki instead.
- Kinetictries to sendYosarianto recruitooba, but Yosarian ends up in jail instead.
- oobawatches the grocery store, seeingPorochazreturn home at the end of the Night.
- Seraphimtries to trackYosarian, but can't find him anywhere.
- HerodotusinvestigatesPorochaz, finding his police file newly dirty of late.
- Kineticvisits the newspaper office but can't get in; they're running the presses in the back (flavor text only).
- Andriusalso visits the newspaper office, finding much the same results.
- Fritzlervisited the factory at #13 (coincidentally whereinHimworked), getting a description and that's all.
- Bunnylovertries to visit the church, but it's locked up tight.
- Cobblerfonevisits Harlow's Night Club for a drink and some flavor text.
- springlullabyvisits the mystery building labeled "?", getting some clues as to the name of the place (it's a red herring, just some interesting local history)
- ThAdmiralwanted to visit Cascone's but was blocked. If he had succeeded, he would have been shown toABRas hanging around outside.
3-2-20, but not for long.
- Day Two:Porochazis lynched onHerdotus' word after only about 8 days.2-2-20now.
- Night Two:
- LLDdefendsAndrius/Toastyfrom recruitment, but not from vigilantes.
- bvoigtdefendsHerodotusfrom recruitment.
- LudijailkeepsYosarianagain.
- DGBblocksxvart, which stopsxvartfrom blockingCobblerfone.
- TanaringuardsDGB.
- Zdenekandpopulartajoboth protectHerodotus.
- NSkillsAndrius/Toasty Toast..
- ThAdmiralvisits Cascone's successfully, then gets killed byBattousai. He was ABR's original idea for a recruitment, so it's just as well...
- ABRactually sendsKatsukito recruit springlullaby, who is incorruptible.
- Kineticgoes himself to recruitDGB, who is still defended from recruitment bybvoigt's action from N1.
- oobawatches Uncle Joe's Tavern (Kinetic's home base). He sees someone come out (Kinetic) but can't identify who in the dark.
- SeraphimtracksLudito Dinkeldorf's Deli, but loses track of what he does next (taking Yosarian down to jail).
- Herodotuslooks intoFlameaxe's record, finding it clean of organized crime ties (but not indecency standards)
- Bunnylovergoes to visit the Main Street Drive-In Liquor store... what a lush...
- Coblerfonevisits the mystery building, getting a different chunk of the deteriorated name on the place.
- Fritzlervisits the park after dark. Nothing happens.
- springlullabyvisits Chronopie's former place of business, the shuttered Warner Photographic Studio.
Factions are at2-2-18after the vigkills.
- Day Three: Everybody wants to play Follow-The-Cop! When Herodotus doesn't have anything for them, they settle for an implodingKatsuki. This takes down theABRfaction,0-2-18.
- Night Three:
- bvoigtdefendsHerodotusagain, not knowing that his defense lasts two Nights.
- LLDdefendsDGBagainst recruitment.
- Ludicontinues to harassYosarianby jailkeeping him; the Night PMs start to say as much.
- DGBblocksNSfrom killingLLD, which would have beenbadfor town.
- xvartblocksCobblerfone, who stayed home anyway.
- TanaringuardsHerodotus, along with bothpopulartajoandZdenek, all not strictly necessary as he's not targeted for kills (somewhat surprisingly).
- Kineticagain goes out himself to recruit xvart, predicting correctly that Yosarian will continue to be jailkept.
- NSwanted to killLLD, but spent the night with DGB instead, as mentioned above.
- Battousai kills springlullaby, in an inspired moment of upward mobility in his job at the bank. Unfortunately...
- oobawatches the bank, seeingBattousaiandspringlullabyenter together. Why he doesn't mention that this contradicts the morning scene, I'm not certain...
- SeraphimtracksDGBtoNS's place.
- HerodotusinvestigatesBattousai, finding him to have a clean record (surprisingly, given his bloodlust, but them's the rules...)
- ConSpiracy replaces Fritzler, then apparently misunderstands his role PM and 'visits' his home base, the barber shop. Opts not to Commute.
3-16. - Day Four:For no reason I can determine, the town decides to lynch...Darox?? This was almost entirely a town-led wagon, with Yos jumping on in the middle (like he usually did in this game) to lend strength. A lot of people seemed to think he (Tanarin) was lurking, when actually he was replaced. Even after this is mentioned, people continue to want him dead.3-15.
- Night Four:
- LLDdefendsCobblerfonefrom recruitment.
- bvoigtagain 'wastes' his cult doctor action onHerodutus, which isn't his fault since he doesn't know it's twice as effective (or that Hero's not getting targeted).
- LudijailsYos...do you really need me to keep saying this?
- xvartblocksHerodotus, in a rather gutsy move by scum. This stopsHerodotusfrom investigatingZdenek, but could have outed xvart badly.
- DGBblockstajo, then gets killed byNS.
I briefly consider turning one of the Vigilantes into a Serial Killer, then slap myself until it stops...
- Battousai kills Seraphim, then gets recruited byKinetic.
- ZdenekprotectsHerodutus.
- oobaseesNSgo upstairs toDGB's place. I don't recall if he put two and two together when she turned up dead...
- ConSpiracyvisits the church, but it's still locked up at Night.
- Bunnylovervisits yet another bar: Delaware Daddy's this time...
Factions stand at4-12.
- Day Five: Paranoia runs rampant; the Doc and a Cult Doc get run up for a bit, then tajo gets replaced by Amrun.xvartgets some traction in a wagon for a while, but eventually they take out...Zdenek?4-11
- Night Five:
- bvoigtswitches to defendingBattousaifrom recruitment, a day late...
- LLDdefendsCobblerfonefrom recruitment.
- Ludi goes to jailkeep Yosarianagain. Yosarian is sent to recruitLudi. This leads to the following:
He is recruited, you are only nominally detained, but too late to do anything else tonight.[/quote]Mr. Flay, in a PM to Yosarian: wrote:[quote="To Officer Sam "Magister" Ludi, Mr. Flay"]
Yosarian2 meets you at the door this time. "Going for a ride again, are we? Have it your way, swine.." He seems unreasonably amused with your antics of beating him over the head and dragging him downtown for a cold night in a cell.
That might be because his boss has just pulled up beside your squad car. Joseph "Kinetic" Camisano has basically tripled your monthly salary in order to ensure that your interests align with his. Given that the alternative is probably a bullet behind the ear, you stammer out an acceptance of the 'offer you can't refuse'.
- xvartblockedHerodotusagain (Hero's target was to beConSpiracy).
- Battousaikillsooba, the other junkie. This was the only paired 'public profession' that had related secret roles.
- In a fiddly bit of rules-intersecting, NSgoes to killYosarianagain. Because of the jailkeep, it fails. In a realistic situation, Ludi would have let Yos go after being recruited, and then Yos would have died, which would have beenveryinteresting for the game-state.
- AmrunprotectsLudi.
- ConSpiracyalso visits the Warner Photographic Studio, finding it empty and abandoned.
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- Day Six: All four Camisano minions orchestrate a lynch ofConSpiracy, sealing the gamestate (5-8, with a kill and a recruitment available to them) unless a vigilante takes out a Camisano, or a Camisano tries to kill the Army Veteran...
- Night Six:
- bvoigtis jailkept byLudi, preventing him from 'defending'Battousai.
- LLDis blocked byxvartfrom defendingCobblerfone.
- Herodotusinvestigatedxvart, finding him dirty, to no avail...
- AmrunprotectedLudi, then died toBattousai.
- NSkilledFlameaxe, then got recruited byYosarian...
- Day Seven: Endgame, with6-5. Kinetic is given the choice to recruit, kill, or ignore (they still lose, just in a different way flavorwise) the remaining Townies. Abandoning the "Hope" motif, he tells me to kill them all.
- Battousaiis sent to killAmrun.
- Yosarianis sent to killLLD.
- LudikillsHerodotus.
- xvartkillsCobblerfone, getting killed in return due to the Army Vet passive ability.He still wins, of course...
- Kinetickillsbvoigthimself.What a terrible Catholic...
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<3's to LLD who protected me all the time.
NS... yeah don't shoot me thats never a good idea.
lol @ Kinetic and I visiting the same place.
Flay wrote:Abandoning the "Hope" motif, he tells me to kill them all.
HOW CULT GAMES SHOULD ALWAYS WORK.
NO BULLSHIT RECRUIT EVERYONE LEFT STANDING.
YOU SHOULDN'T GET A REPRIEVE FOR FAILING AT YOUR WINCON.-
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When cult wins, the only winners is the recruiter/leader and the N0/pregame recruits (players who didn't get a chance to play by their original wincon). Everyone else on the cult are just zombies who lose no matter what (as playing against original wincon means you can no longer win with that faction).-
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Yeah, a general sense of apathy always sets in on towns during or towards the end of cult games usually. Its really frustrating because people start not caring.
I also don't agree with you Batt, as the culted people are necessary for the cult to win, and usually only at the end of the game does it start not mattering who gets recruited.-
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In post 3687, Magister Ludi wrote:Yeah, a general sense of apathy always sets in on towns during or towards the end of cult games usually. Its really frustrating because people start not caring.
This. :/-
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In post 3680, Magister Ludi wrote:Flay, whats your next game?
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In post 3689, Mr. Flay wrote:In post 3680, Magister Ludi wrote:Flay, whats your next game?
War in Heaven III
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In post 3689, Mr. Flay wrote:In post 3680, Magister Ludi wrote:Flay, whats your next game?
War in Heaven III
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