Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[Regfan]

@ Hito -

If we think you're SK why would we want to prevent you shooting at all? Wouldn't wen want to direct your shots instead?

@ Andrius -

Explain this Plum-Town read that you seem so adamant about.

Still waiting on those claims from Zajnet and Tclwaren.

[hitogoroshi]

Wait you wanted to shoot me? Did I read the "he" and "him" right or..? O_o

No. I thought Klazam was probscum, but I wanted to DRILL him on on his delayed claim instead of just shooting blindly. I probably wouldn't have shot if someone had been lynched right there. I only shot him because the scum move requiring a claimed move-checker happened very quickly after a dodgy move-checker claim.

@ Hito -

If we think you're SK why would we want to prevent you shooting at all? Wouldn't wen want to direct your shots instead?

man I don't know

it's not like I've actually devoted brain cells to what would benefit hito-sk

I'm just saiyan if people are worried I'm not compulsive

[Andrius]

I claimed it

Then I musta' missed it.
Will search for later I guess. :/

Besides some of us need to move around to get shit done.

Which is why some of us feel others SHOULD be locked in the party room.

Ok that works I guess. Meh.
Still don't like nerfing the mechanic but you know ALL WE DO IS WIN NO MATTER WHAT

@ Andrius - Explain this Plum-Town read that you seem so adamant about.

By no means as strong as hito_town and others.
She's followed through on her promises, and while activity was/is lacking she's true to her word. Also, the QT stuff was solid. IAAUN push felt natural.
See, I'm a really friendly dude, and getting down to business in the start of the game takes me sometime.
If Plum were scum she could have schmoozed with me the entire QT ride and coasted.
I noticed that she was actually questioning me though, not writing me off as obvtown read or whatnot so.
Truereadsthatthere.

No. I thought Klazam was probscum, but I wanted to DRILL him on on his delayed claim instead of just shooting blindly. I probably wouldn't have shot if someone had been lynched right there. I only shot him because the scum move requiring a claimed move-checker happened very quickly after a dodgy move-checker claim.

I know you wanted him dead- I just thought the "him" referede to me since you just addressed me or whatont. eh

[Llamarble]

@everyone in Ragetorium:
1 or 2 of you should move yourselves to the party room.
We also want:
Maru -> Rage insured
Maru -> chair uninsured
Door to panic room shut.

I doubt we get more done than that considering how little motivation people seem to be showing.

Also I hope somebody has a trackerguilty on TC or something because the fact that several people are talking like they do is the reason I'm voting him.

[Llamarble]

Right, I'm skimming all the boardgame shit for now, I'll save thinking about that for when I have more time,,
Just gonna focus on scumhunting for now,,

I would venture to say that Reck and Plum are of different alignments. Now if I could only tell which was which.

I guess it'll be more evident as the game goes on.

VOTE: Nobody Special

Seriously, try to justify this post, I dare you,,

I fucking hate not being able to finish my sentences properly, makes me look like CKD,, Really, I should probably just be releived that my laptop is still basically functional, but,,, It's annoying,,

Anyway, let's lynch Nobody Special,,

Just for fun we could get him to answer some questions first, I guess,,

1] Why were you happy to send Maruchan into Door Control if you found his volunteering "not precisely pro-town"?

2] You said: "Maruchan: Somehow, I think volunteering for that is not precisely pro-town. I can't really articulate why, though. Maybe I just don't like you enough yet."
Do you think you could possibly have added any more scummy weasel wording into this remark?

3] How long do you think you will be able to get by propogating vague anti-Fate sentiments instead of committing to a full frontal assault?

This post is just SUCH a bus though.

[Llamarble]

And he suggested, before it happened, that some kind of iam-moves-to-ragetorium self-hammer might happen.

Surely this is a town tell for him, not a scum tell?

He was clearly aware of the idea and thought it was a good one for scum.
Scum proceeded to execute that idea.
If you're arguing he wouldn't have said anything as scum, I've definitely revealed setup-specific strategic ideas for scum when scum.
Example: in White Flag Mafia I mentioned that scum might try a whiteflag gambit to get their pairing eliminated, got ignored, and then our team did it and won because of it.

LLD is a good player but has been alarmingly cryptic / quiet after we kinda dismissed her as town.

[Llamarble]

I especially don't like that all the people on the lynch menu are simply people who are not as good at avoiding getting lynched as LLD/Me/Regfan/Andrius/Hito/Naut

[Llamarble]

Yes. LLD and NS both require MUCH more attention than they have gotten.
LLD has been very useless-lurky-tunnelly on TClaw.
The ONLY reason I would think she is town is role-stuff, and I want to hear from Hito what he thinks about that.
She did the "I think X is town" other person: WUT WHY YOU THINK I TOWN "See now you're more town thing"
I have seen that happen 3 times and ALL 3 times was from scum.
And her approach to Iam was FLAT OUT SCUMBAGGULAR.

If TC flips town I may want both her and NS vigged.
I may want one of them dead right today, actually.

TOWN:
Llamarble
Regfan
Maruchan

Probtown:
Andrius

????:
Naut
Hito
Zaj
Plum
TC
BS

SCUM:
LLD
NS

[Llamarble]

I think the top SK candidates are Zaj and Hito.
Hito can't really be mafia with that much shooting power.
Hito, how bad is it for town to just have LLD claim if she's town?
I am suspicious and not having the full story about people is making it difficult to scumhunt properly.

[Llamarble]

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Plum]

Panic Room door should be closed but I don't have much more time right now.

[tclawren]

@Regfan: I claimed d1 during the gambit. I'm a vt.

I'm moving to party room to make room for Maru.

[Nautilius]

Sent in Maru to the Ragetorium, insured.

I'm due for a reread soon because I'm not exactly in agreement with the tclaw lynch (especially with no resistance anywhere), but I don't really have a replacement in mind. I'd agree that people have been slipping under the radar, especially LLD. I'm also not a big fan of Andrius right now, so that needs looking into.

[Regfan]

LLD has been slipping under the radar but the fact that her reads are identical to mine continue the town-read I have on her. If Tclwaren flips town that may change but at this point I don't see that being that likely. At the end of yesterday Tclwaren stated he was perfectly content and happy with a Zajnet lynch, today he has stated suspicion of five different people (Hito, Baby, Naut, LLD, Plum) none of them being Zajnet and none of them with a case or anything attached to it. Andrius is town, completely town and his claim alone should be enough proof of that. I did read into NS and I do agree his attitude towards and around Iamusername was odd, very odd but I disagree about him and Mags interactions looking scum on scum and overall there's a lot still making me think he's town which I'll go into later.

@ Zajnet -

Still want your claim.

@ Hito -

If I wanted to select you for move checker later in the game for when you went to 'load up' in the Villa, what would I see it say out of curiosity?

[tclawren]

That's why you think I'm scum? 'Cause I've changed my mind?

I don't think Zaj's play today is from scum and frankly scum is salivating right now, cause I'm pretty sure they've lined themselves two mislynches in a row right now.

And do I really need to bust out cases at this point? Like strongly worded, meticulously researched cases?

Here they are in a nutshell.

Hito and BS both claimed vig. AT LEAST ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IS OUR SK. Is that really that hard to believe?

LLD has done jack shit except say "TC is scum" all game.
Naut led that fucking awful Soda lynch.
and Plum has still done nothing.

[zorastermod]

Day 3, Round 6

Moves:

tclawren joins the party
Door between Monastery and Panic Room Closes






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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Does anyone else notice that Tclaw is pushing for that SK lynch really hard?

You know why? He probably believes what he's saying. He likely believes that Hito/Baby is SK.

Too bad that this fixation on an SK hunt over scum only makes him more likely scum.

[zoraster]

Day 3

Andrius ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Baby Spice ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Llamarble ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Maruchan ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Nautilius ( 1 ) Andrius,

(L - 6 )

Nobody Special ( 1 ) Llamarble,

(L - 6 )

Plum ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Regfan ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

tclawren ( 4 ) Regfan, Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special, Maruchan,

(L - 3 )

SodaSpirit17 ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Zajnet ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 6 ) Nautilius, Baby Spice, Plum, Zajnet, tclawren, hitogoroshi,
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


Deadline: Round 14

[Llamarble]

I really like 1964 and really don't like 1966.
Yes scum SKhunt sometimes. But he did role speculation that makes sense and is also looking for regular scum.
Also I'm not sure either of Hito/Baby are an SK; Baby could be a difficult to use additional mafia kill.

LLD has been slipping under the radar but the fact that her reads are identical to mine continue the town-read I have on her. If Tclwaren flips town that may change but at this point I don't see that being that likely. At the end of yesterday Tclwaren stated he was perfectly content and happy with a Zajnet lynch, today he has stated suspicion of five different people (Hito, Baby, Naut, LLD, Plum) none of them being Zajnet and none of them with a case or anything attached to it.

I'm pretty sure schizophrenia is a towntell. It's just very hard for scum to mimic the process of changing ones mind while figuring out the game.
It's not as if Zajnet suddenly became an unlynchable unappetizing target today or anything.

[Llamarble]

Also what about Magua-NS makes them unlikely buddies??
Magua doesn't even mention him till he's dead in the water and in wifom mode.
NS says almost nothing about Magua.

But I feel more inspired about this one anyway:
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

Also we should move Maru

[Nobody Special]

People I would be willing to vote for today:

tclaw (that's where my vote is now), Plum, Baby Spice, maaaaaybe LLD.

I would like to hear more from Andrius.

Because I don't want to re-read 79 pages for one tiny thing, does anyone recall any player being suspicious of Llamarble so far?

[Andrius]

I'm going to work on a map thing tomorrow for my own tunnel-finding benefits.
Will post findings here.

[Llamarble]

LLD has said an unbelievably minimal amount about TCL considering the degree to which she has been tunneled on him.
She mentions suspicion of Amrun with delayed vote, lurking, and a dash of SK spec.
Town do all of those things.

LLD's stated things about TCL that bother her do not explain her attitude toward TCL.
--> LLD's attitude toward TCL is not the result of things that bothered her about TCL.
--> LLDscum.

Throw in general lack of engagement / pushiness / scumsmashing and I see LLD's scumgame.

[Llamarble]

Like if there were ever 3 town players scum thought they could get lynched, it would be Plum, TC, Zaj. (LLD's scumreads)
Zaj gets lynched in like practically every one of his games.
I need Hitoadvice on this because he just plain has info I lack.
But LLD changes her opinions on like 1 person ever.
And she says of magua he could be scum and then totally ignores him / applies no pressure.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD has said an unbelievably minimal amount about TCL considering the degree to which she has been tunneled on him.
She mentions suspicion of Amrun with delayed vote, lurking, and a dash of SK spec.
Town do all of those things.

LLD's stated things about TCL that bother her do not explain her attitude toward TCL.
--> LLD's attitude toward TCL is not the result of things that bothered her about TCL.
--> LLDscum.

Throw in general lack of engagement / pushiness / scumsmashing and I see LLD's scumgame.

Scum game based upon what? Your limited experience with me? (oh god I just resorted to Meta, but YOU MADE ME).

TCL is scum by GUT >=D!

If you really want me in here yelling about how I want Tclaw lynched in 3 pages or less, I'll do that. Honestly, I've grown slightly apathetic about the game since you guys decided to basically be like "LOL FUCK OFF LAMBDA" and lynch Soda yesterday.

No matter how much I told you that Soda was town. Town to the HIGH HEAVENS. You basically blew off my reads and lynched town.

So, excuse me if I'm a little underwhelmed about that. I came into the thread today and was ready to scream for Tclaw's lynch, and you know what I got?

Andrius telling me basically to fuck off, and that my reads still weren't worth considering.

What motivation do I have to give you guys jack shit in the case department when all that'll get me is having my ass ignored.

So you know what? If you want me in here, giving you 10 pages of content a day, clogging this thread with mountains of posts that will only serve to get my ass IGNORED AGAIN, then fine. I'll start playing that game.

But maybe, JUST FUCKING MAYBE. You dumbfucks who lynched Soda yesterday could SWALLOW YOUR GODDAMMED PRIDE, AND LYNCH THE SCUMBAG THAT SHOULD HAVE FUCKING DIED DAY 1.

(yes I know we lynched a scum day 1, but seriously.)

So, fuck you. Fuck this game. Go play in a septic tank.