Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[Llamarble]

Also Plum looks like we need you to open the security room door (uninsured) if you still have chits enough.

[Plum]

I'll try that.

[Maruchan]

I'm not sure if we ever addressed this eralier in the game, but I agree with scummiest player getting Door Control.

That way since doors require chits from the person IN door control, we can make sure they aren't using any chits they aren't telling us about.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ISO 0: A non-committal post about his moves. It's actually what my stance was "just hanging around in the Nexus" so nothing outrightly scummy here.

ISO 1: Votes

Amrun

, expresses displeasure of Plum/LLD. States he "might join the LLD wagon later". Shows a disparity between confidence in his original vote, and lack of confidence in the willingness to switch wagons and not commit to Amrun.

ISO 2: Potshot at Maru, pointing out something obvious, then turning around and stating he can "see the points against LLD, might join wagon later." Again showing a lack of confidence in his vote and being very non-committal.

ISO 3,4,5: Reactions to my questioning his above ISO 1/2 are weak, and sound more like excuses than they do reasons.

ISO 6/7: Pointless Fluff, maybe Active Lurking?

ISO 8,9,10,11: The worst bit of acting I have ever seen in response to a pseudohammer. Cements scum read.

ISO 12: States that Amrun is scummy, keeps his vote there, and then says Re: the Iam Wagon -> "Looks bad, will likely be the lynch for today."

But keeps his vote on Amrun???

Look back up to ISO 1/2. Where I call him out for not pushing his wagon and sticking to it (being non-committal). He now SWITCHES HIS STANCE ENTIRELY, to avoid voting for

Iam

.

This is SCUM.

ISO 13/14: Active lurking, asking pointless questions that he doesn't follow up on.

ISO 15/16/17: Active lurking/Move oriented bullshit. Not intrinsically scummy, but it's adding up.

ISO 18-21: More of the same move oriented.

ISO 22/23: !!! !!! !!! WARNING. SCUM DETECTED. He states he agrees that Klazam is "likely town" but tries to discredit him as confirmed town based on the iamausername flip. Does so with a weak meta reference. VERY SCUMMY.

ISO 24: The beginnings of SK paranoia/banter. Also switches his opinion of Klazam back to "obvious town" now that Klazam had flipped town.

ISO 25-34: Literally 9 straight posts of USELESS FLUFF. My suspicions about his active lurking are confirmed.

ISO 35: A wonderful statement of the obvious. "Llama's town".

ISO 36-39: Nothing here. Null mostly.

ISO 40: MORE SCUM. "Is Andrius town?" and a unprecedented vote on Plum. I wouldn't find it scummy... except that he is now voting me for basically the same thing. "Not explaining anything for your votes." Hypocrisy is scummy in this sense.

ISO 41-43: More move stuff.

ISO 44-46: Weird interactions with Zanjet followed by a weak vote on him leads me to believe they are scum buddies distancing.

ISO 47-50: More move stuff. Jesus, I'm going to take a tally of what % of your posts is useless fluff/move stuff.

ISO 51-54: SK paranoia, weak pushes on myself and Naut/Plum.

ISO 55: A terribad vote on me, that only comes BECAUSE MARBLE STARTED A WAGON THERE. Basically it's opportunism.

All in all THIS. IS. SCUM.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When did I ever say I think I am the shit at this game?

go read all of my D1, where I said "WOW PEOPLEZ ACTUALYL THINK I AM TOWN> THIS IS SO WEIRD> I AM USUALLY CONFSCUM IN PPLZ MINDS EVEN AS TOWN".

to paraphrase: I am not THE shit at this game, I am SHIT at this game.

therefore this post is also AtE,

I agree Maru. This post IS AtE. See, what you did is ACTUALLY AtE. You couldn't argue your way out of it, so instead you attacked me on the pretense that you're only a little newbie, and that I should know better.

Also, this is why AtE is a shit tell, because you're town. And you're using AtE. So. -shrug-

Can we get back to lynching the real scum? (I.E: Tclaw)

[Maruchan]

When did I ever say I think I am the shit at this game?

go read all of my D1, where I said "WOW PEOPLEZ ACTUALYL THINK I AM TOWN> THIS IS SO WEIRD> I AM USUALLY CONFSCUM IN PPLZ MINDS EVEN AS TOWN".

to paraphrase: I am not THE shit at this game, I am SHIT at this game.

therefore this post is also AtE,

I agree Maru. This post IS AtE. See, what you did is ACTUALLY AtE. You couldn't argue your way out of it, so instead you attacked me on the pretense that you're only a little newbie, and that I should know better.

Also, this is why AtE is a shit tell, because you're town. And you're using AtE. So. -shrug-

Can we get back to lynching the real scum? (I.E: Tclaw)

Did I ever attack you?

no Now you are ATEing sommuor.

THe more you pull this shit the more scummy you look.

I said I do NOT thin kI am the shit, that I think I am shit, I NEVER said I was a newbie, jsut that I am shit at this game. there is a difference.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You understand that saying that "OH I'M SHIT AT THIS GAME" is a form of AtE right?

And that's why AtE fails. You're town, and you're using AtE.

So drop this shit and get on a real wagon.

[Maruchan]

how is knowing that I am not good and being willing to admit it AtE?

Its stating the truth and accepting it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how is knowing that I am not good and being willing to admit it AtE?

Its stating the truth and accepting it?

Please excuse the following blatant strawman representation, which may or may not be offensive:

"WAHH WAHHH I SUCK AT THIS GAME, I'M NOT GOOD AT ALL. YOU'RE BULLYING AN EASY TARGET, AND TRYING TO PAINT ME AS SOMETHING I'M NOT."

That ends the incredibly inaccurate strawman representation of your posting.

Do you get my point? I think that's fairly salient.

[Maruchan]

That would.

I didn't do that however, I merely refuted a point made against me that I was under the impression I was AMAZING.

Refuting a point made against me and going WAHHHH I SUCK I see as two completely different things.

[Maruchan]

HOWEVER, My earlier comments would totally fall under that reference of yours as AtE. The ones made back on pages 10 or so? My comment saying I don't think I am awesome would not.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HOWEVER, My earlier comments would totally fall under that reference of yours as AtE. The ones made back on pages 10 or so? My comment saying I don't think I am awesome would not.

Hence why I'm trying to drill into your skull the following:

1) My original posts were not AtE

2) Even if they were, AtE is a null tell since it's used by both scum and town. It actually will catch more town than scum, since scum are more careful to avoid it.

[Llamarble]

I don't think scum avoid RAWRAGEING because it really is an effective way to get people to run away and go lynch something else.

I'm looking at your TC stuff right now.

[Llamarble]

VOTE: Tclawren

[hitogoroshi]

I think the top SK candidates are Zaj and Hito.
Hito can't really be mafia with that much shooting power.
Hito, how bad is it for town to just have LLD claim if she's town?
I am suspicious and not having the full story about people is making it difficult to scumhunt properly.

I think tomorrow is the day for massclaim. That's all I want to say atm.

@ Hito -

If I wanted to select you for move checker later in the game for when you went to 'load up' in the Villa, what would I see it say out of curiosity?

Honestly don't know broski. I reload on the move schedule, can insure it or not...I assume just "reloaded"?

What do we think odds are BS is town killing power? Can I shoot her? Otherwise I want a Zaj claim I think.

[Maruchan]

I think you should shoot her and if she doesn't flip scum we lynch you. I think that sounds relatively fair. I find her scummier than you, and I doubt we got 2-vigs.

[zorastermod]

Day 3, Round 7

Moves:

Maruchan to Rage
Maruchan to Electric Chair
Door opens between Electric Chair and Security Room




"

GREEN

,

RED

, AND

PURPLE

CHITS ACCEPTED. "

Next Round's Move Due:

20:00 EDT

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[zoraster]

Day 3

Andrius ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Baby Spice ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 1 ) tclawren,

(L - 6 )

Llamarble ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Maruchan ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Nautilius ( 1 ) Andrius,

(L - 6 )

Nobody Special ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Plum ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Regfan ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

tclawren ( 5 ) Regfan, Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special, Maruchan, Llamarble,

(L - 2 )

SodaSpirit17 ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Zajnet ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 5 ) Nautilius, Baby Spice, Plum, Zajnet, hitogoroshi,
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


Deadline: Round 14

[Maruchan]

-goes to page 1 to read what security room does now that me being sent there is actual realities-

[Andrius]

I'd rather lynch LLD over tclaw.
Isn't Security Room just a watcher deal?
And my room thing didn't happen- namely because I was going to track people's movements but zorastermod ISO is both less confusing than one map with a bunch of arrows and more concise. :/

[Maruchan]

Andrius I think the only tunnel shown to us so far was into tipping point.

[Andrius]

Andrius I think the only tunnel shown to us so far was into tipping point.

Only one I've found too.

[Andrius]

EBWOP: Well, same difference since I didn't really FIND it I just ID'd it and all. :/

[Llamarble]

Huh, that misspeak was a bit sketchy.
Well Mr. Andy, why not vote accordingly?

Pretty much all that's left to do today is ship Maruchan to the security room, maybe shut the door behind him, and then lynch.

[Maruchan]

definitely shut door behind if you plan on lynching, since chits renew after the day starts