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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:47 am

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If Hito shoots her tonight I'm auto-voting him tomorrow and not unvoting no matter what.


What if she flips sk?

Also,

username iso 7 wrote:Baby Spice hasn't said a lot, but I'm pretty sure there's a soft claim there that scum wouldn't have any motivation to make, so I think she's town.


so we have 100% confirmation scum thought baby's softclaim made her look town
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:11 am

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He could've been LYING. You know, to cover for a buddy?

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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:01 am

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Urgh. LLD goddamnit. no.

You're saying I'm active lurking? Well I might not be the factory of precious scumhunting walls but I have been pretty honest with my reads. This is how I play, I watch and I vote. Sometimes I ask questions. That's really it.

Two major points that I want to rebuff.

ISO 12: States that Amrun is scummy, keeps his vote there, and then says Re: the Iam Wagon -> "Looks bad, will likely be the lynch for today."

But keeps his vote on Amrun???

Look back up to ISO 1/2. Where I call him out for not pushing his wagon and sticking to it (being non-committal). He now SWITCHES HIS STANCE ENTIRELY, to avoid voting for Iam .

This is SCUM.


THERE WAS LITERALLY NO POINT FOR ME TO VOTE IAM AT THAT TIME. He was at L-3 and I didn't want the day to end any time soon. So I camped my vote on Amrun a while. So I ask you why is this scum?

ISO 22/23: !!! !!! !!! WARNING. SCUM DETECTED. He states he agrees that Klazam is "likely town" but tries to discredit him as confirmed town based on the iamausername flip. Does so with a weak meta reference. VERY SCUMMY.


The main point of this was to figure out why Regfan thought the result confirmed Klazam as town, which I found odd. Klazam ruined it by answering the question first.

ISO 40: MORE SCUM. "Is Andrius town?" and a unprecedented vote on Plum. I wouldn't find it scummy... except that he is now voting me for basically the same thing.
"Not explaining anything for your votes."
Hypocrisy is scummy in this sense.


This is not why I'm voting you. I'm voting you cause you're tunneling on town and hopelessly trying to twist every little thing I say into a scumtell. Like I said before this is the same exact bullshit you pulled in Camden: you take some innoccuous thing someone says, you see how you can twist it and turn it into a "scumslip" and voila you get yourself a nice little mislynch.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:50 am

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In post 2045, Zajnet wrote:Wait, why do we think Maru is town?

This is why he doesn't get potioned.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:16 pm

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I can maru to security, we want it insured or no?
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:48 pm

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if we insure it then uninsure door close it should work
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:53 pm

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sending in maru to security insured
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:22 pm

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Do we need a Door motion tonight? I do plan a meaningful post, but before deadline hits and all.
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:25 pm

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uninsured security room closed
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:54 pm

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Asking why you're town isn't cause for no-potions.
Revisiting old assumptions is healthy for town.
I want Zajnet moved to the potion room.
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:05 pm

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No, Zajnet . . . he's the only one from the Iam wagon I
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Elli. Your read of me now. Answer in a well-reasoned paragraph.

Baby Spice is probably a better lynch than Tclawren.

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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:06 pm

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Oh, and yes, I sent the order for that Door Close but no actual Mod confirmation there yet.
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:14 pm

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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:19 am

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In post 2059, Llamarble wrote:Asking why you're town isn't cause for no-potions.
Revisiting old assumptions is healthy for town.
I want Zajnet moved to the potion room.

No but the way he asked came off as an accusation, and he generally didn't remember, which means he wasn't paying enough attention which is anti-townie behavior.

+All the asking for potions.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:02 am

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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:26 am

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I feel like a broken record right now, I really do not want a Baby Spice lynch or kill and we're nearing the portion of the day where a lynch needs to occur asap and I still suggest it being Tclwaren or Plum though I would settle with Nautlius if no other lynch is agreed upon.
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:22 am

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Regfan, if BS is town, who of the PRs is scum? Hito? LLD?
If the kidnapper is the SK, then Hito is town.
Considering Fate specifically called the kidnapper a third party, and the kidnapper asked Fate if he was scum, I lean that way.
Making BS probably some flavor of scum.
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:24 am

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Like she claimed the CLUNKIEST role ever.
A vig that costs lots of chits in a specific room to fire once every three nights?
Seriously?
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:06 am

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Day 3

Andrius ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Baby Spice ( 1 ) Llamarble,
(L - 6 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 1 ) tclawren,
(L - 6 )

Llamarble ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Maruchan ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Nautilius ( 1 ) Andrius,
(L - 6 )

Nobody Special ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Plum ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Regfan ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

tclawren ( 4 ) Regfan, Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special, Maruchan,
(L - 3 )

SodaSpirit17 ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

Zajnet ( 0 )
(L - 7 )

No Lynch ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 5 ) Nautilius, Baby Spice, Plum, Zajnet, hitogoroshi,
Total Votes ( 12 )
Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]


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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:50 am

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Hito killing every night rules out him being mafia (2 mafiakills a night? Nuh uh). It also rules out him being the kidnapper.
Hito claiming his role makes him not a regular SK (claiming draws bullets and guarantees a lynch if 5 mafia are gone).
I think he's town.

BS has claimed a DRASTICALLY BIZARRE role for town.
I believe she has to spend a lot of chits in the villa because of the softclaimy stuff.
But I don't think she has town purposes.

Anyway, this lynch is by no means bad.
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:52 pm

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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:54 pm

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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:31 pm

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Llarmable, Baby Spice doesn't make sense as a SK at all and I'm relatively sure that one of the 'Third parties' in the game is likely to be a SK which only Hito fits furthermore I continue to see Babys soft-claiming is a massive town-tell. I don't want to continue to go in circles attempting to argue about it but if I die please don't lynch her. Tclwaren lynch or hammer would be naise and a Tclwaren scum-flip should clear LLD.

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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:49 pm

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Got a prod.
Spent a couple of days in bed, then a week of kids throwing up.

Starting to catch up but it's going to be a bit piecemeal.

In post 1999, Llamarble wrote:... Baby Spice???

BS why didn't you push harder to go to the villa early D1?
I like the word "Preposterpus"


there'd been a lot of pre-game villa stuff, and I worried that pushing too hard to be there would be a PR outing thing.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:54 pm

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In post 2069, Llamarble wrote:Hito killing every night rules out him being mafia (2 mafiakills a night? Nuh uh). It also rules out him being the kidnapper.
Hito claiming his role makes him not a regular SK (claiming draws bullets and guarantees a lynch if 5 mafia are gone).
I think he's town.

BS has claimed a DRASTICALLY BIZARRE role for town.
I believe she has to spend a lot of chits in the villa because of the softclaimy stuff.
But I don't think she has town purposes.

Anyway, this lynch is by no means bad.
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/barn the part about Hito to high heaven.

I agree that BS's claim is significantly scummy. To add to your thought process, I feel like claiming to need to spend all 5 chits to get a shot reeks of mafia (not SK) looking for an excuse to not have to account for their chits. She could claim she spent all 5 in the villa, yet actually used them to move people around. I actually find her more scummy than Tclaw at the moment.

That being said, I don't think she's the correct lynch for today.
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