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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:59 pm

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ellibereth, banshee, neruz, llama, thomith, wv.
The last scum is in these six (VT claims).
Llama wrote:I actually just went through the calculation and it looks like scum make out pretty much the same way killing vs nokilling.

Wrong-o. 9 alive going into today. If scum don't kill (and assuming that we treat me/EB/RD as clear) then it's 6 unclears, 3 clears. If scum do kill, then it's 5 unclears, 3 clears (two power roles and one jailed VT). In the first case, the town gets FOUR chances to lynch the last scum. In the second case, they get THREE chances.

By the way, we don't actually gain another mislynch at this point from a jailkeeper save.
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:01 pm

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If WV wasn't even online I could possibly swing that lynch since night seemed short.

Want to think a couple second more though before I shift.

Neruz has made posts today that show he hasn't been thinking about NKs, which returns me to liking him. Hiphop also jumped on llama and llama being lynched still led the a dead hiphop quickly due to balance.

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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:13 pm

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What the? No! If Alex and bvoigts were both online yesterday, absolutely nothing is explained. WV IS TOWN DEAL WITH IT. If the game doesn't end after the UPCOMING LLAMA LYNCH
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:15 pm

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Yeah good point.

Im done derping.

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It actually makes MORE sense that he wasn't online if he is VT, why log onto an alt to do nothing?
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:51 pm

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My last game with Bvoigt scum he bussed both of his partners pretty hard.
I choose him.

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It'd make me happy if you lynched him before you lynch me, and the plan is to lynch us both anyway so I don't see any reason not to accept my request.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:38 pm

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We all got a PM about the start of the game.

That would include WV.

If he's town, why isn't he here?
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:56 pm

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In post 1880, Banshee wrote:We all got a PM about the start of the game.

That would include WV.

If he's town, why isn't he here?


My eyes say he was notified about the game starting

I want to say Neruz is more town then most others at this point given the level of theory incompetence he is showing here.

Thomith I still think is town. WV I almost want to say is town due to no kill, it seems like if anypony needed to get rid of the roles it would be him. Maybe I am overthinking this, but lack of kill almost points to a pony in a decent position or a block. If town came to the conclusion that scum stopped killing Neruz and WV would be gone in ten second flat.

So yeah.

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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:11 pm

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If you promise me my WV lynch tomorrow I suppose we can just go on to night.
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:18 pm

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Y'all are crazy for actualy thinking I'll flip scum though.
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:27 pm

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Thomith is the towniest of the VTs at this point, btw.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:49 pm

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Maybe/Probably

See I have a bit of a problem here.

I think Thomith is town for what happened with hiphop, really don't think that was a bus. Neruz I still think is town here.

Also good, implosion sees what I see.

I would say if I had to make an order...

Llama
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Elli
Thomith

Banshee just makes me a little on edge still, I would almost be happy lynching him before Neruz on gut

I still want to consider WV instead, but those two are the ones that need to be finished off to end the game.

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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:10 pm

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No.

What are you doing Dash, this is horseapples, stick to the plan. Stop thinking, just act. Its what you are best at.

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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:33 pm

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That order looks pretty good. Not sure who i like better between elli/banshee but yeah.
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:41 pm

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I just think Neruz is town because he views implosion as the biggest threat to scum. I also had a bit of a town read on Banshee due to that deselby wagon I pulled off, but now that hiphop is scum, its a little less strong of a tell.

Elli I don't think would be that passive yesterday as scum, instead he would just have blasted hiphop or pulled in a different direction. Again though I would really dislike to be forced to pick between Banshee and Elli.

Thomith is still prob-town. I rarely see anypony bus as hard as hiphop would have needed to.
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:43 pm

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thomith does not make sense as scum with voidedmafia
thomith does not make sense as scum with hiphop
thomith does not make sense as scum as an individual
thomith does not make sense as scum
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:48 pm

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*nod*

Banshee pushing Thomith is one of the things making me twitch about that pony.

Gut is screaming "Dashie, you need to put Banshee over Neruz in lynch order" again and again.

So yes. Lets do that. Awesome.
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:49 pm

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I feel like we're pretty resolved that both me and WV will get lynched this game.
Can we just lynch him first? It just feels good to say "we lynched scum the first 3 days and won."
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:53 pm

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In post 1891, Llamarble wrote:I feel like we're pretty resolved that both me and WV will get lynched this game.
Can we just lynch him first? It just feels good to say "we lynched scum the first 3 days and won."


Feh

Lets say both of you are town, who would you put up as scum next?
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:06 pm

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In post 1891, Llamarble wrote:I feel like we're pretty resolved that both me and WV will get lynched this game.
Can we just lynch him first? It just feels bad to be on the losing end of a perfect town victory.

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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:19 pm

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Yeah, i'm going to go with the 'lynch WV then marble if WV isn't scum' plan.

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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:21 pm

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RD, I think Neruz.
If it isn't WV or Neruz I'll be really confused. Heck, if it isn't WV I'll be confused.
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:45 pm

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What about the final pony? We get four lynches here.

Look, for those saying Llama would not have bussed, I really think he was forced to when putting myself in his hooves, a move that has won me games in the past.

You are in the following position

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Most ponies have agreed that your partner is scum, and that at least one of the VTs (Ellibereth) is probably town, with you and a second (Banshee) lagging a little behind him, and a few being torn on others. What do you do? Two plans of attack

1) Get VTs lynched. This would mean WV goes, followed by Neruz. At that point you are going to be up for discussion, especially as multiple ponies have their eyes on you. Your partner probably goes immediately after you do. You need to pull off three mislynches to win, when you are probably going to be under heavy discussion starting on the second.

2) Bus your partner. They are a watcher and you have massclaimed, so they are USELESS at this point to you. They are essentially another VT but under massive fire. If it was me that siren in the back of my mind that goes *BUS HIM, BUS HIM* would be wailing. Hiphop was doomed, and for scum was basically a VT, perfect lynch, especially for scum in the aether of the VT reads. With this, he essentially assures that he goes after WV and Neruz, sounds like a deal to me since thats going to creeping up on an endgame. You need to get one more lynch to win the game, but you have a whole lot more town credit to do such.

If I was Llama scum, I would have tried to kill EB in hopes that I was being derpy and protected implosion. Worse case you lose another possible lynch if I protected him, but you still have that sweet sweet town cred.

I would have made that move as him as scum. Would any of you ponies really not?

Llama is scum here.

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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:31 pm

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Lynching Hiphop enabled EB to start confirming towns.
And just because people found Hiphop scummy yesterday doesn't mean no minds would change.
He could even have claimed a watcher guilty and gone 1v1 with somebody.
Town would have a LOT less brainclarity with him still alive.

I'm not going to argue this though.
Let's lynch WV.


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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:56 pm

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RD is susceptible to AtE. (I bet it's cuz she's a she)
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:02 pm

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I want everypony to check in first either way.

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