Open 331: No Lynching Town - Game Over!
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Fenchurch she/theyMafia Scumshe/they
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Elli pointed out he has a V/LA notice in his sig (limited access at weekends). So I'll give him a pass for now; I'll consider replacing him if his activity is low in the week.-
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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In post 376, Empking wrote:I'll tell you this Pack: Elli ghets to choose who we lynch today.
Ellibereth can hammer if he likes, but I don't have atownreadon him - just a process-of-elimination deduction.advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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I'll "stall" however the long hell I want because it's up to ME to make the decision right now.
Regardless I was away the last few days and couldn't yesterday and I'll probably be doing so today and blahablahblah.
Actually screw this fine, within the next hour. Not breaking this promise.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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glowball Mafia Scum
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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YOU WERE NOT PARTICIPATING. If you needed time to think you would update us, you should have at least. You came in and didn't answer questions and didn't give a damn that we are playing a game. The only reason teh decision was up to you is because of your lack of activity. So really the choice wasn't up to you, I hammered myself because I am not going to wait another 72 hours for you to come in and do just that. I am town. Figure out the scum-- it would have been an easy win if you would have actually participated but you didn't so whatever.-
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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lol
you
have
no
right
to
criticize
the
way
I
play
this
game
I'm not "lololol me still thinking" more than I have to
you know what
I'll win this tomorrow
when I spend TIME AND THINK ABOUT THIS SHIT INSTEAD OF CATERING TO YOUR DESIRE TO WHAT YOU THINK IS PARTICIPATING AND IS CORRECT PLAY
so yeah
fucking self hammer when i was barely even considering you
what you do is shut up and wait for me to think and do what i want
there's a reason deadlines are so long
don't bother replying.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Well I am dead anyway, and if I wasn't your suspect you should have placed your vote on Pack since you think Emp is town as well. You are just a control freak, oh my I do what I want with no regard for other players.. oh I hold the power so I'll keep stalling. Sorry, no I don't want to be a part of that.-
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Fenchurch she/theyMafia Scumshe/they
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Final Vote Count of Day Three
glowball - 2 (Empking, Packbat, glowball)
Not voting: 1 (Ellibereth)
The electric chair is ready and waiting for today's candidate, which would appear to be glowball. She even flips the switch herself, and laughs maniacally as the power starts to flow through. But it doesn't seem to be killing her, if anything it seems to be making her stronger. No wait.. no, she's just the same. But definitely still alive.
No lynch has occurred Day 3.
Night deadline: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 at 23:06 GMTLast edited by Fenchurch on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Fenchurch she/theyMafia Scumshe/they
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4 of you go to sleep, only 3 wake up...
glowball,Townie, was killed Night 3.
Day 4 begins!
Not voting: 3 (Ellibereth, Empking, Packbat)
With three alive, it will take two votes to lynch.
Deadline is: Saturday, 15 October 2011 at 22:27 pm GMT-
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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Having just skimmed Pages 1-9, I'm feeling Empking more than Ellibereth, for a couple reasons:
1. Lots of confirmed townies are leaning that way.
2. Magic like #206-#210.
Not voting until I finish my reread, but that's the way I'm leaning.advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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The only thing that really bothers me is how little activity Ellibereth has had all game. Against that, however, Empking has been quite active without presenting anything like a solid case for a single one of his votes, ever.
Yeah, looking over the game, there's really no comparison. Being as this is LyLo, I'm not going to rush anything, but I'm moderately confident that Emp is the last scum.advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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I think glowball made the best case:
In post 328, glowball wrote:In post 208, Empking wrote:Because hip is a town read.
You never placed a vote on Hip and Hip is now dead scum
In post 223, Empking wrote:glowball wrote:or HELL we can get me today so you guys can drop this hiplop scumteam thing and then tomorrow all of you sheep me to victory EVEN if I am dead you will kill PackBat> Izak>CSL
Yeah no way is it a glow/hip team
You already said that there isn't a Glow/Hip team
In post 230, Empking wrote:If you make town make stuff up then you won't be able to catch scum when they do it.
Hip is town for being on the CSL wagon. Glow is town for his sensible reads in his last post.
Again calling us both town, but Hip flipped scum
Izak wasn't scum
In post 274, Empking wrote:Let's lynch CSL. We can work out his buddy later.
CSL wasn't scum
In post 315, Empking wrote:Oh wait, CSL was clearly not scum with hip. That bit at least makes sense.
Vote: Pack
Here you vote Pack
In post 327, Empking wrote:I've just looked through my iso. I think my reasoning for Glow town was a little weak (it was based off saying we could kill him).
Unvote
Vote: Glow
Now back to me. You are obviously jumping for the most likely lynch. You came into the game trying to steam roll us and make us hammer PAGE 1! You're scum reads have been wrong and now you are voting me with Pack because I am voting you- simple.
Ellibereth, and Pack if you are town let's rid ourselves of Emp. I have done nothing scummy and he needs deathadvice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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Voting history, color coded:
Voter Records: Votes On Target Post# Vtr |CSLEll EmpglohipizaPac | ----------|-----------------------------| 4iza| V . . . . . . | 5 Emp | V* . . . . . . | * L-2 6 Ell | V† . . . . . . | † L-1 9 Pac | 3 V . . . . . | 10 Emp | u 1 . . . . V | 11 Pac | 2 u V . . . 1 | 22iza| u . 1 . . . 1 | 28CSL| 1 . V* . . . 1 | * L-2 32hip| V* . 2 . . . 1 | * L-2 37 Emp | V† . 2 . . . u | † L-1 40iza| 3 V 2 . . . . | 57glo| 3 V* 2 . . . . | * L-2 70CSL| 3 2 u . . . . | 74 Ell | u 2 1 . . . . | 78iza| 2 u V* . . . . | * L-2 83 Pac | V† 1 u . . . . | † L-1 92iza| 3 V* u . . . . | * L-2 93 Pac | u 2 . . . . . | 97 Pac | V† 2 . . . . . | 100hip| u 2 . V . . . | 104hip| V† 2 . u . . . | † L-1 108CSL| 3 V† . . . . . | † L-1 141glo| 3 u V . . . . | 163 Pac | u V† 1 . . . . | † L-1 165glo| 2 3 u . . . V | 168 Pac | 2 u . . V . 1 | 174CSL| 2 u . . V* . 1 | * L-2 181iza| 2 u . . V† . 1 | † L-1 193 Emp | u . . . 3 . V* | * L-2 240 Ell | 1 . . . 3 V 2 | 241hip| u . . . 3 V* 2 | * L-2 255 Emp | . . . . 3 V† u | † L-1 258glo| . . . . 3 ~V~ u | ===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 0 0 0 0 3 4 0 | ----------|-----------------------------| 264 |CSLEll EmpglohipizaPac | = Town 265 |CSLEll Empglohip--- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------| 266 Pac | . . . . V . | 267 Emp | V . . . 1 . | 268glo| 1 . . . 1 V | 271hip| V* . . . 1 1 | * L-2 288glo| 2 . . . V* u | * L-2 289CSL| 2 . . . V† . | † L-1 310 Ell | 2 . . . ~V~ . |===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 2 0 0 0 4 0 | ----------|-----------------------------| 312 |CSLEll Empglo--- --- Pac | = Scum 313 | --- Ell Empglo--- --- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------| 315 Emp | . . . V | 316 Pac | . . V 1 | 317 Emp | . . 1 u | 320glo| . V 1 . | 321 Emp | . 1 1 V | 327 Emp | . 1 V† u | † L-1 355 Pac | . 1 u . | 360 Pac | . 1 V† . | † L-1 380glo| . u ~V~ . | ===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 0 0 3 0 | ----------|-----------------------------| 387 | --- Ell Empglo--- --- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------| Voter Records: Votes By Player Post# Tgt |CSLEll EmpglohipizaPac | ----------|-----------------------------| 4CSL| . . . . . V . | 5CSL| . . V* . . 1 . | * L-2 6CSL| . V† 1 . . 1 . | † L-1 9 Ell | . 1 1 . . 1 V | 10 Pac | . 1 V . . 1 1 | 11 Emp | . 1 2 . . 1 V | 22 --- | . 1 2 . . u 2 | 28 Emp | V* 1 2 . . 1 2 | * L-2 32CSL| 1 1 2 . V* 1 2 | * L-2 37CSL| 1 1 V† . 1 1 2 | † L-1 40 Ell | 1 1 3 . 1 V 2 | 57 Ell | 1 1 3 V* 1 2 2 | * L-2 70 --- | u 1 3 1 1 2 2 | 74 --- | 1 u 3 1 1 2 2 | 78 Ell | 1 1 3 1 1 V* 2 | * L-2 83CSL| 1 1 3 1 1 3 V† | † L-1 92 Ell | 1 1 3 1 1 V* 3 | * L-2 93 --- | 1 1 3 1 1 4 u | 97CSL| 1 1 3 1 1 4 V† | † L-1 100glo| 1 1 3 1 V 4 4 | 104CSL| 1 1 3 1 V† 4 4 | 108 Ell | V† 1 3 1 3 4 4 | † L-1 141 Emp | 2 1 3 V 3 4 4 | 163 Ell | 2 1 3 2 3 4 V† | † L-1 165 Pac | 2 1 3 V 3 4 5 | 168hip| 2 1 3 3 3 4 V | 174hip| V* 1 3 3 3 4 6 | * L-2 181hip| 3 1 3 3 3 V† 6 | † L-1 193 Pac | 3 1 V* 3 3 5 6 | * L-2 240iza| 3 V 4 3 3 5 6 | 241iza| 3 2 4 3 V* 5 6 | * L-2 255iza| 3 2 V† 3 4 5 6 | † L-1 258iza| 3 2 5 ~V~ 4 5 6 | ===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 3 2 5 4 4 5 6 | ----------|-----------------------------| 264 |CSLEll EmpglohipizaPac | = Town 265 |CSLEll Empglohip--- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------| 266hip| . . . . . V | 267CSL| . . V . . 1 | 268 Pac | . . 1 V . 1 | 271CSL| . . 1 1 V* 1 | * L-2 288hip| . . 1 V* 1 1 | * L-2 289hip| V† . 1 2 1 1 | † L-1 310hip| 1 ~V~ 1 2 1 1 | ===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 1 1 1 2 1 1 | ----------|-----------------------------| 312 |CSLEll Empglo--- --- Pac | = Scum 313 | --- Ell Empglo--- --- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------| 315 Pac | . V . . | 316glo| . 1 . V | 317 --- | . u . 1 | 320 Emp | . 1 V 1 | 321 Pac | . V 1 1 | 327glo| . V† 1 1 | † L-1 355 --- | . 3 1 u | 360glo| . 3 1 V† | † L-1 380glo| . 3 ~V~ 2 | ===[] ----------|-----------------------------| | 0 3 2 2 | ----------|-----------------------------| 387 | --- Ell Empglo--- --- Pac | = Town 388 | --- Ell Emp --- --- --- Pac | = Town ----------|-----------------------------|advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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Packbat she, they, ze/zirMafia Scumshe, they, ze/zir
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Well, no - there's also:
1. #106 - connection to hiplop.
2. #143 - interpreting "Scum lies within" as "Bothscum lie within", which strikes me as guilty (also, as connection to hiplop).
3. #206-210, which willnever, ever, in the history of the universemake sense.
4. #314-315: "Oh noes, I don't understand what scum could be thinking when they did the thing that scum did, because I'm not scum!"
5. Younever in the entire gamepresented a good case for any vote you made.
In fact, I take back what I said about glowball's case being the best. The biggest thing I see is that youneverpresented a case in the entire game worth spit. With all of three exceptions, your every vote has been hopping on a town wagon near lynch and trying to push it the rest of the way. Ellibereth at least had some reasoning he could provide for his early CSL campaign, although he waited an awfully long time to do so - you hadnothing.advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.-
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1. I'm sorry agreeing with a player who later turns up as scum is a scumtell? Why would scum do that?
2. "Scum" is plural. "A scum" is singular. Both scum id the only way of reading it in this game.
3. Imagine if you will two numbers. One is a 5 and one is a 1. Take 2 away from both numbers. Only Glowball is a negative number. See?
4. Yes that explains whya minutelater I showed that I understood the logic.
6. Begging the question of you being town.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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1. Why would scum keep away from their partner's wagon the entire game, to the point of pushing any other wagon that arose the moment votes began accumulating there? The way I'm reading it, you're playing the zero-bus strategy.
2. That's not how I read it - although I see that's the way izak meant it. Fine, drop this point. The other four still apply.
3. Imagine, if you will, someone who is below the legal drinking age. Does this fact imply that they are breaking the law?Only if they are also drinking.There's nothing particularly scummy about those interactionsunlessyou suppose that both of those players are scum.
4. Understood ...whatlogic? You act as if it was obvious, in that second post. Which, as glowball pointed out, it wasn't.
6. Beggingwhatquestion? Nobody's bothered to present a case! The last case I saw was glowball's, and I responded to that when Ellibereth brought it up on Day 2.
Also:noresponse to #5? You don't haveonesolid case behind any of your votes to refer to? Thank you for conceding my largest point outright, scum!advice from a trans otherkin queer plural system: you don't have to accept what normal says it's possible for you to be.
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