Mini 1246 - Bizarro Mafia: ...Mate! Who won?

[Wasabi]

RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.

1. Uh, my soul?
2. Presently, my strengths lie in logic, though I'm working to improve my gut instincts.
3. I try to anticipate. I'm a troubleshooter by trade, so I'm pretty decent at considering the various branches of possibility. But all roads lead to WIFOM, so I've found it easier (though not necessarily safer) to react.
4. Ugh, sounds like a terrible place to be, with no negative consequences. I'll pass, thanks.

In return, we get a second power role over what might be considered normal, a PR-less mafia, and a tracker whose value is slightly higher than normal thanks to the open setup.

Is this info explicitly stated someplace? It's new to me.

[Wasabi]

Oh, and Howdy to mozamis, and Internet Stranger; good to see you again.

[Wasabi]

From reading the second post:

We send it votes to the mod by PM.
Then the day ends 1 week + 3 meatworld days after the mafia kill someone.
Then the votes are revealed and someone gets lynched the next game day.

You probably weren't responding to me, but yeah, saw that - nightkill/lynch are backwards - what happens if they're the same target?

Also, I'm still wondering about where the info about the PR-less mafia and town-aligned power roles came from?

[Wasabi]

Aha, found it: HERE.

Basically, the Night and Day phases are flipped in terms of events: voting at Night and actions during Day.

The setup is open with 3 mafia/1 doc/1 tracker/8 vanilla.

Emphasis mine.

[Wasabi]

Oh, hooray. Well, this is going nowhere fast. Not that I have anything of value to contribute. I really need to come up with a decent early-game strategy, because I'm feeling pretty useless.

Maybe I'll go back and tally up all the fake votes. That'd be

something

at least.

[Wasabi]

Frankly, I think Whiskers might have been killed for the pony schtick. I'd actually dropped an early vote there, so that I could look at myself in the mirror on the off chance I took the first scum bullet. Which reminds me, I need to move to a new target...

[Wasabi]

@MOD: Will we be seeing just the final vote tally, or will we have access to the PM'd vote history, including unvotes?

Only the final vote count. I can explain why at the end of the game.

I'm hoping the latter, and I wanted to wait until near end of day to comment on it, since it would be too late to construct a vote history . It's possible that we might be able to pick up a slight scumtell from the first day, as if the scum would potentially have their own channel to communicate, and not much need to move their lynch votes around.

[Wasabi]

I want to broach this subject now: Did anyone else vote Whiskers at any point during the course of Day 1? I have a sneaking suspicion that there's a nightkill mechanic at work here that is out of the ordinary...

Perhaps we've met the enemy, and he is us...

[Wasabi]

Ok, maybe I didn't express my intentions clearly.

Did anyone else send a PM to the mod indicating a willingless to lynch Whiskers before the scum kill happened?

[Wasabi]

@MOD: Will we be seeing just the final vote tally, or will we have access to the PM'd vote history, including unvotes?

Only the final vote count. I can explain why at the end of the game.

I still think there's something going on here, though I could be completely off track about it...

@Wasabi - No, both to voting for Whiskers and the idea. I was under the impression that this was a completely open setup.

Thanks for that, Ace. So, I checked the OP from Jedo, and Rule F1 indicates that the scum are able to communicate privately from the beginning of night until the resolution of their kill, so they're not able to coordinate from the time we enter the 48 hours of wrap-up time after the kill until the thread re-opens, as I read it.

I also looked at the wiki definition of an Open Setup:

An Open Setup is one wherein the exact role distribution in the game is known.

This is true for our game. But I also checked the entry for Coney Island:

In contrast to Mini Normal games, Mini Themes are allowed to have more complex game mechanics or a themed setup.

I don't want to take us down the rabbit hole of my personal wild theory when we've got so much other good intel to be working with, but I'll ask that we keep one eye on what exactly the mechanics of this game are - it may prove important. I, for one, will be much more cautious about PMing my vote until I'm feeling very good about being right.

[Wasabi]

I agree that Thirdkoopa has been utterly useless, but I feel we need to rely on the mod to handle that. I do see in Jedo's sig line that he's seeking a replacement, at least.

I think we can probably drop mozamis from the list of suspects on the basis of his lynch vote on IS, and IS's vote on him.
I'm not 100% confident in Pads' roleclaim, but unwilling to gamble a vote there until the game develops further.

My vote will probably fall someplace in the Darox / Junpei / VisceraEyes realm.

[Wasabi]

Agreed, I'm still thinking Junpei...

[Wasabi]

I suppose we'll see shortly.

[Wasabi]

Weekends are tough. I'll bring some meat to the table in the AM on Monday.

[Wasabi]

riiiiiiiight. Is that after the scum kill?

Apparently not. Digging in now.