Mini 1246 - Bizarro Mafia: ...Mate! Who won?

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pretendvote: VE.

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That means Days must be at least Five days long?

Yes.

Like, Day is at least 48 hours and then there's a Twilight after the kill of at least three Days. right?

Yes.

And we need to send you our action in the first 48 or risk getting skipped, right?

Assuming you have one, yes.

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How is the town supposed to do that? How do we know to sheep that player, and how will we know if it

is

a power role?

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I am similarly sure of that.

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And I similarly can't imagine anypony being so dumb as to do that.

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RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.

1:

I

was in my cage. I don't know what you were describing, but it was in it's cage, not mine.
2: Logic, but gut is easier. I prefer Logic from others.
3: I anticipate. I write out scenarios and go, "Well, if we massclaim now, then this, this, this, or this could happen. If X is scum and this happens, then Y is definitely town, but if" And go through every plausible scenario. Somepony else said something about how you can't Not react to what happens, and that's true. But I like to try to plan/think ahead. I also make sure it's out in the open so everypony can benefit from it.
4: I don't even know how to react to this. If I could not be wrong, I would be far more sure of myself. But I know that some of the appeal of lying is the idea that you have to be able to get away with it.
The way you pose the question, I picture myself dressed in a gold toga and an olive wreath and eating grapes and I am ceasar of the world and everypony is waiting in a loooong, single-file line to ask me a question and since I know everything apparently (or I can never be considered to be wrong), I answer all their questions and they revere me for it.


There you go, there's your stupid frickin' Rqs.

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Yeah, I certainly appreciate that its not dragonshit like, "wat timzon r u in lololololol"

I fucking hate that question.

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Because I don't give a shit about Rqs, as a rule.
However, you did not include such ridiculous questions as the one above, and the mechanics in this game are different, and you complained about ";__; nopony is answering my fantastic questions!"

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Yeah, I certainly appreciate that its not dragonshit like, "wat timzon r u in lololololol"

I fucking hate that question.

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Because I don't give a shit about Rqs, as a rule.
However, you did not include such ridiculous questions as the one above, and the mechanics in this game are different, and you complained about ";__; nopony is answering my fantastic questions!"

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When you are confronted to something you don't understand, you try to analyze it, you don't jump on it and start to bash your head in order to make it work.

Speaking about an unusual setup is contributing in every way of the word.

What is it you don't understand?

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The way we are handling it, this game should be really really easy. At least, easier than normal games.

We have all the (potential) votes listed as we fos each other. We get the nightkill to analyze during the day. All this is, is that we get to react to the NK immediately, and redirect vote accordingly.

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So I've already pegged one of the PRs and one of the Scum, I think.

I mean, I have some reads.

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Otolia: Fake votes are one thing--- you don't have to support them yet-- there is no Night...Daykill!?, so they are

fairly

random at this point. These Dayvotes could be used to influence or guide the scum.

Giving my actual reads is another. Giving my real reads, this very easily

could

influence a

night

Daykill for the worse.

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Darox: Could you bother making a fake case on your fake suspect? I don't want to fake mislynch.

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Why the fuck you all ninja'n me?

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mozamis: Protip: Multiquote.

I find it hard to believe that mafia won't insta-kill after the time limit is up. Anyone find reason to doubt this? I think that the PRs should hastily make their decision.

Doesn't it make sense for the PR's to submit their actions after 47 hrs?

Uh, yeah, sure, if they are all on at exactly 47 hrs. Since it's better to have submitted them than not, I'd rather they prematurely (and therefore possibly randomly or uninformedly) use their powers than not at all.

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Placate town? sure. If town is happy & satisfied with me, What have I to fear?

No, I'll give you my reads if you want them.

I'm not PR hunting. Jesus christ. I get a read, I think it's a PR. Obviously I didn't out it.

And it's not as simple as, "Who is the townie?" Scum will want to NOT kill scummy townies. If I say who my scum suspect is and it's a townie, then the nightkill will not go there, and there is created Wifom and NK speculation (more Wifom).

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Ffffffbahpost.

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Make sure you all update your wikis.

Why the heck was I killed Day One?

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Oh, and, uh, I'd make it Nightstart if I were you.

The mechanic that really comes into play here is hidden votes. The scum being Daykillers means that the town gets to react instantly to that (like in a nightless). However, since the hidden votes come at Night, they can't just say, "Oh, I voted for this player. Oh wait, I'll change it to this player," the idea being that if you announce your vote, you have to stick to it or be a liar.

THAT SAID, Idk what really happened here, since I kind of never looked back after I got killed Day 1, Ffff.

Also, my bahpost should have been more helpful. Sorry about that.

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But

why

did we kill Whiskers Day 1?

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That's probably why I phrased it like that. ^_^

I'm much happier with this game now.

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Ahem. Also VE you played fine, just was wrong at the very end.

Seconded. Someone wins, someone loses.