Mini 1247- Auction Mafia: Abandoned

[Lurconis]

/confirm

[Lurconis]

Going on an unplanned V/LA be back possibly Sunday night but probably Monday night sorry for the short notice.

[Lurconis]

No one should claim today as it just gives mafia info on who has how much points left so they can kill those with the most points.

[Lurconis]

Player a is town they claim 100% nk right now scum a thinks well I was going to kill them but insteaf wil kill player b as they will have more points to use against us in the future.

You wouldn't expect any of these rolls to claim d1 normally I don't see how these mechanics change that. It still is just giving scum info day 1 they dont need

[Lurconis]

The power role already has their power it is for one night killing the power role doesn't stop them from using their power that night killing someone with 20 points makes it easier for them to prevent future power roles from falling in town hand hands.

In your scenario above killing magua means killing a 1 shot roleblocker who will get to use his ability thst night anyway vs hiplop who (assuming he didnt win anything) could be bulletproof a 1 shot vig etc.. Tomorrow

Obviously people can win roles 2 nights in a row but by announcing who spent what it allows sxum the chance to remove town s future potential power roles easier

[Lurconis]

Sorry for typos posting from phone

[Lurconis]

A 1 shot vig wouldn't normally claim d1 either, also investigations should only claim scum reads unless a town read they found is about to be lynched. If pV bought 100% investigate and he find s emp town and emp isnt in danger of being lynched all he does by claiming is tell scum how many points he spent. Scum already know who town is and town can only wifiom in regards to the claim as pV may be scum trying to save his scum buddy. I understand your line of thinkinf I just disagree as your plan would layout what sxum need to do each night

Pedit how do you know they have a nk? Mod would not confirm thst earlier. VOTE: sorgster

[Lurconis]

[quote="In post 42,

Do we know if mafia has a factional nightkill, or do they have to bid on and get the nightkill ability?

This is a closed setup, but nice try

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[Lurconis]

@mega I dont understand what your saying in your last point. So im so stupid im scum?

No. You are consciously doing anti-town things.

I believe you to be scum

, but even if you are not, the town is better off without you.

Attention: Mego is scum. That is all.

vote: Mego

Reasons are awesome.

So you would waste a lynch killing town

, because you are annoyed at said town? Doesnt seem like very pro-town thinking too me.

Your misrepping Mego there trying to make it sound like he thought you were town when he clearly stated he thought you were scum. That is scumeriffic VOTE: Uncle Daphne

[Lurconis]

protect isn't useless to scum if daph is scum by buying both he limits the chance of his kill not going through

[Lurconis]

@UD that is uncalled for please stick to game discussion and leave personal insults out of it.

[Lurconis]

How is BV scummy? He seems to not be adding anything but I don't see anything said yet as particularly scummy?

[Lurconis]

@mego that vote count was correct soda unvoted after

[Lurconis]

With powerroles changing everyday there is no reason not to claim any and all results so on top of GreyIce claiming his shot whoever had the 100% should claim as well.

[Lurconis]

That's all I wanted to know.

sorgster is mafia then. He was roleblocked last Night.

How so?

@Grey why did you target emp?

[Lurconis]

That's all I wanted to know.

sorgster is mafia then. He was roleblocked last Night.

How does sorgster being roleblocked mean he is scum?

[Lurconis]

I feel like I am missing something obvious here can someone please explain how his being roleblocked implies he is scum?

[Lurconis]

welp, unless anyone cc's i think sorg is town. irdc scum would waste their money on a result they already know.

You really can't see ANY way that scum would want to use their money to buy an extremely powerful ability to keep it from the Town? Seriously?

sorg is pretty much always awful (sorry) this isn't a scum-tell
and there was a death last night, so i dont see how sorgster being roleblocked makes him scum.
I think grey (UD) bought the 100NK. idt he bought doctor or bus.

Isssss it just me or does this guy kinda have to be scum?

Ain't no way he's flipping town.

Vote: SodaSpirit17

Sorg's bought himself a phase with that investigation, so we give it to him.

I can see where you're coming from on that, Grey.

vote: SodaSpirit

What? VOTE: BV310

[Lurconis]

Shit my bad i forgot about that

unvote

[Lurconis]

The part of Grey's that I was agreeing with was saying that Soda's post was scummy. I don't think you should get an extra night phase, since if you're scum more than likely you'll just "clear" one of your buddies, but I know I'm in a minority there.

And if he's not scum? I don't think that's likely, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe that my reads are 100%. Soda is just as scummy, if not scummier, and this way we maximize our percentages.

If Sorg flips scum tomorrow, we just ignore the investigation result as WIFOM.

^This there is no reason to let the claimed 100% investigation swing today when if he swings tomorrow we have a potential result.

[Lurconis]

Look, do you even have a reason for voting for me? Is it because I'm an easy target? Because you were pointing fingers at a good portion of the crew, but not once did you vote. Then I make my introductory post, and you vote me for no reason. Tell me, why do you think I am scum? Is this meta you are using?

MOD VOTE COUNT:
Uncledaphne 5 (Sodaspirit, mego, voidedmafia, sorgster, lunconis)
Mego 2 (BV310, deathrowkitty)
BV310 1 (Magua)
Luronis 1 (empking)
magua 1 (peregrine)
Sodaspirit 1 (uncledaphne)

@Soda why so defensive when only one vote was on you? How were you an eady target?

-phone

[Lurconis]

He said sorg gets one free phase as he has the 100% investigate not soda

[Lurconis]

Grey, you got that wrong -_-. Soda claimed the town investigation on bv. I just tried documenting what claims we had.

You're right. Mai bad. Soda is town then.

Cause scum can't clear someone for town points?

[Lurconis]

He's still gonna die tomorrow, and as Grey said, if he flips scum we can dismiss his investigation as WIFOM.

If he doesn't, there's another conftown along with bv.

I think your confusing soda and sorg

[Lurconis]

You traded the investigation away to someone who is town, with the condition they investigate who you want.

And who is town? how do I know 100% they are town? If soda is scum, then bv could be scum. If bv is godfather, then the investigation on him by soda would have been bad. What if they are scumbuddies and the guy tells me the wrong result? Also, wouldn't it be more beneficial to the town if I die next day phase?

It would be more beneficial for the investigation to go through.

Suggestion that you may be happy with and town might actually get a result from this investigation. Sorg buys Bus Driver from Peregrine with the deal including Sorg driving actions from Sorg to whoever the two of you agree is likly scum. That way you live through the night no matter what if you claim you were roleblocked and flip town we know Peregrine is scum, if you claim a scum or town read on someone we lynch you and either have a confirmed townie or scum for tomorrow or you flip scum we have useless WIFOM reads.

[Lurconis]

If Sorg chooses who he trades with, why does it matter if he's roleblocked? He won't be doing the investigating.

He claims to be fairly certain someone is scum, but he has no town reads that are strong enough he'd trust them?

Oh come on.

Soda still needs to die like hell.

Hey, Voided, am I scum or not?

In the above scenario sorg didn't trade the investigate as he has said he is unwilling to do so

[Lurconis]

@Sorg answer my post it adresses everything you just said

[Lurconis]

Soda so you try to continue pushing sorg after he agrees to trade investigatoin? VOTE: soda