Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

Ellibereth · Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:09 am

Weekend V/a still going one etc

implosion · Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:04 am

I have one other question for neruz...

did you honestly believe that there were three cults in this game during day one?

Neruz · Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:30 pm

Yes, i did.

After some consideration, i think Ellibereth is our best lynch choice. We have one more free lynch and Ellibereth has done a reasonably good job of active lurking so far in this game. I find it difficult to believe that if Banshee or Thomith were genuinely scum that they wouldn't have any significant radar pings right now, but Elli has been lurking enough and avoiding interacting with other players sufficiently that there's very little to go on with him.

VOTE: Ellibereth

implosion · Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:04 pm

premise one: the scum had daytalk on day one.
premise two: neruz thought there were three cults on day one.
inference one: neruz would probably have mentioned the possibility of cults to his scumbuddies. if he did this, his scumbuddies would have mentioned that it was impossible.
inference two: if neruz were scum, he would know that there were no cults on day one.
conclusion: if neruz is telling the truth about thinking that there were cults on day one, then he's town.

Someone look this over. and then look to see if neruz is telling the truth. I'm kind of swaying towards an elli lynch. someone give me an elli-town case.

Thomith · Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:05 am

You know what i feel that eilli would be the scum we wouldn't catch but i don't know if we will just be over-cautios and lynch elli-town if he is town.
I really want a content filled post next post by elli though.

Banshee · Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:19 am

In post 1192, Ellibereth wrote:ok I'll read later but thoughts sticking in my head

Beck slip is STUPID
banshee is town (have you ever played with me on your past account? just curious)

Voided is town blahblahfuckingblah but that doesn't matter anymore
wierded I dunno. Normally I'd be pissed about the hammer but noone really gives a shit about today going on including me so etc. I haven't really been reading that slot.

Llama's town for stuff and wanting to derail this wagon.
Rainbow's town.
Bullet/Neruz I've been lazy and not looknig at their post hammer thingys in detail will do that asap.
lolthomith

This is why I think Elli is town. VM had already been lynched and we were waiting for nightfall.

Look at the number of town clears there too. Scum don't like doing that, because it limits options.

Meh, it's not a great case but Elli has been really lurky and I don't have anything better.

I already made a case on Neruz. Can do it again, but I can just link to it if you prefer.

Thomith · Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:22 am

I really don't have anything reason-wise to lynch elli on other than:
Would probably be the scum we wouldn't catch
No content posts recently.

Neruz · Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:32 am

Elli's ISO is an excellent example of how to active lurk. It's impossible to get any strong reads on him at all based on his posts because he just hasn't posted anything of significant value and i just cannot in good conscience let someone who's active lurked as hard as Elli make it to lylo.

Thomith · Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:37 am

So you believe elli has active lurked the whole game?

Neruz · Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:38 am

No i don't, that's why i called his ISO an excellent example of how to active lurk.[/sarcasm]

Thomith · Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:39 am

Thats a yes then.
So if i asked you a post number of ellis you could tell me how it shows active lurking?

Ellibereth · Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:16 am

I have active lurked the whole game
sans the first day I was here.

~~~I'll have time starting today.
activity wise at least one person can support me drop was site-wide ~

Ellibereth · Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:17 am

P.S. Thomith
How isn't it obvious that I've been active lurking through the last few days. >.>
I didn't feel like participating whatever day it was after voided died and then all the shit was about claiming.
Then you guys killed whoever the next day without me.
Then you guys virtually killed wierded and i was just all show up and hammer.

Ellibereth · Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:19 am

Theoretically sound play is to lynch Banshee
except I think Banshee is town...
I remember llama saying we should no lynch in this scenario and then banshee said for some reason that sucked
kwait

Neruz · Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:21 am

Thomith is an idiot and annoying, that's why it's not blatantly obvious that you've been active lurking.

Ellibereth · Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:21 am

In post 2053, implosion wrote:premise one: the scum had daytalk on day one.
premise two: neruz thought there were three cults on day one.
inference one: neruz would probably have mentioned the possibility of cults to his scumbuddies. if he did this, his scumbuddies would have mentioned that it was impossible.
inference two: if neruz were scum, he would know that there were no cults on day one.
conclusion: if neruz is telling the truth about thinking that there were cults on day one, then he's town.

Someone look this over. and then look to see if neruz is telling the truth. I'm kind of swaying towards an elli lynch. someone give me an elli-town case.

As someone who played daytalk games at a ridiculously frequency
one issue here

it's surprising how little scum teams utilize daytalk sometimes, especially people not use to it.
There have been SEVERAL cases where people just post first then check, or don't bother to check at all for a while.

Ellibereth · Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:23 am

In post 2064, Neruz wrote:Thomith is an idiot and annoying, that's why it's not blatantly obvious that you've been active lurking.

Let me look through his iso
this keeps raising the point I had waaaaay back but I'm still not confident.

Elli - active lurk should be fucking obvious
"Thomith idot" would miss
But don't think what I've been doing would be OBVOBV even for a VI?

I remember there being one post I quoted with Thomith showing some inconsistency in sophistication a while back lemme see.

Oh yeah, where are you in the modding food chain? Like what type of games have you modded.

Thomith · Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:25 am

Well i wouldnt say you were active lurking as such but whatever.

Elli is right as the last game i played where i was mafia and had daytalk the scumteam didn't use it at all and then my partner was lynched day 1 so i was left alone with really no use of it other than talking to myself, and i read afew others where the scumteam didnt use daytalk that much.

Neruz · Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:33 am

Me? I've modded a mini normal and are currently modding a lareg normal. Why?

Ellibereth · Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:34 am

because the cult thing would be really wierd for someone who
1) knows how to balance shit, and 2) has been through review process.

Neruz · Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:34 am

Pedit: The thing with daytalk is on a good scumteam, daytalk is

incredibly

powerful. But on a bad scumteam not only is it pointless but it can actually make the scum

more

ovbious.

Daytalk is basically a power multiplier; it makes the good scum better, the bad scum worse and does very little to average scum.

Neruz · Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:36 am

In post 2069, Ellibereth wrote:because the cult thing would be really wierd for someone who
1) knows how to balance shit, and 2) has been through review process.

*Shrug* GreyICE sent me this awesome PM about how he'd snuck all this shit in under the reviewers nose, for some inexplicable reason i took him seriously despite having no reason to and really knowing better. It was a brain fart, pure and simple.

Thomith · Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:38 am

You really think anyone could sneak 3 cult leaders under the review teams noses?

Banshee · Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:40 am

I'm curious how that would work, anyway. Three cults in 13 players. Would you start with three cult leaders, and they would recruit each night? What if they recruited the same person? Would they start with one recruit? That would be six of the 13 players as cult already. Why would you be calling people scummy in the first part of the game when there really wouldn't be room for any scum in that setup anyway?

The numbers don't support this argument for me. Maybe in a large theme.

Ellibereth · Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:43 am

what context was that in anyway