Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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Implosion - I was super interested in how you used the role, because I've never seen it in action before. Overall, I thought you used it practically perfectly. Early game you generally lurked/were quiet, posting enough so people didn't have a scumread, but generally staying in the background, giving you the status of 'meh, whatever.'
You really moved to the fore day 5, using your mod-confirmed town status to lead the town. Overall, that's one of the best uses of the role I can think of (the ability to become a late-game town leader when other town leaders have been shot) and I have to congratulate you.
Also, I'd like to say this is one town where I actually am proud of the fact that I can't name an MVP. The very long day 1, despite its endless nature, apparently got a very good dynamic working, and no amount of town leader shooting really got this off the ground. Some examples:
RainbowDash was instrumental in moving things forward and spurring discussion, even if his reads weren't the best. Also I really don't understand the EN JK/Bodyguard overlap problem (Again, Llamarble will know what I'm talking about when I say bad setup spec can be a disaster). That being said, Rainbow was very willing to listen to others here, and that proved to be solid for moving the town in a good direction.
EvilBullet, on and off, was very good at poking and prodding.
Llamarble really stepped up to the plate with getting Hiphop lynched. I'm reasonably surprised that the Watcher claim went so long. Watcher is a VERY strong town power role, and a weak scum power role. I actually grimaced when Hiphop claimed it - it was there to help counter any IC/JK shenanigans, not to be claimed. In general (mod meta alert) I'm not really going to give scum abilities that exist solely to be fakeclaimed unless it's a very power heavy game. Scum can think of fakeclaims all by themselves.
Thomith and Banshee were both solid in being town-looking, and Beck made a good vig shot (I'd be interested in seeing what he would have done on night 3, but well).
Neruz really stepped up his game in the last few days. Neruz, I'm sorry if you thought this would be a crazy setup. I thought the line about cult leaders and stuff was an obvious joke, given the normal rules, and I didn't actually anticipate anyone taking me seriously.
I wish WeirdVoights had more chance to really get moving, there were some good posts from the hydra, but overall it turned into one of those lurky half-aware hydras.
I was happy that Banshee at least reviewed my FAQ. Based on other mini normals, I've been very disappointed in the level of standardization in roles, and wished to be able to answer questions on the fly, but I didn't want to be stuck in a situation where power roles became obvious due to mod question answering. Therefore, the FAQ is a nice neutral ground. I was also hoping it would give scum ideas for fakeclaiming, but that didn't happen.
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I apologize for the situation day 1 regarding the VoidedMafia vote. That's a separate post.
Ellibereth obviously played very well, and I have to give him props.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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The Vote Situation
As you may or may not know, this has the honor of being the third longest day 1 in mafia scum mini history (and the fourth longest normal game overall). And simply put, due to unexpected issues week 1, as well as a funeral, I was time crunched.
I discovered that certain things made it very hard to count votes.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3344642
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3344655
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3345712
All of these were generally starting to drive me insane. I tried ISOing people and just scrolling up to find their most recent vote, but that resulted in the alphabetic vote count that people didn't like.
I finally had to just change the rules to the votes only counting at the beginning of lines. Since it's fairly standard to vote that way on this site, it didn't seem like a horrid change.
Unfortunately, it directly resulted in Neruz not being lynched as I (accidentally) missed this vote: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3369159
The intent to vote was clearly there, but I have also clearly changed the rules. Based on that, I truly didn't see a way to fairly count it as a vote when it was pointed out to me.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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Rainbowdash Mafia Scum
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In post 2250, GreyICE wrote:RainbowDash was instrumental in moving things forward and spurring discussion, even if his reads weren't the best. Also I really don't understand the EN JK/Bodyguard overlap problem (Again, Llamarble will know what I'm talking about when I say bad setup spec can be a disaster). That being said, Rainbow was very willing to listen to others here, and that proved to be solid for moving the town in a good direction.
Hey hey... day one I was actually pretty spot on with my reads. Went back between hiphop and VM for most of the time before finally taking the wagon back over to VM. Also was 4/5 with my EoH alliance. My post day one reads usually are not as strong, especially if there is a scum flip for whatever reason. Then again im still shocked I saw a D2.
I just really didn't see a weakened protective role (BG) and a second weakened twice protective role all that likely or even work together that well. This probably was due to me trying to draw somepony at some point into claiming doc because that wouldn't happen but meh.
Encryptor is a good and underused role, glad to see that one.You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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bvoigt Mafia Scum
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Good game, all. I enjoyed the flavor, GreyICE.
This was my first time hydraing, and it may be my last. At least for the last couple of game days, it really seemed like I was on my own. But I did manage to not post a single time from this account!
That fakehammerwastruly a misunderstanding, in case there are still doubts about that.
I really think that hammering scum on Days 1 and 2 should make you obvtown. Even if you're bussing to gain towncred, it's almost impossible to win the game with both your buddies gone right away. Oh well.-
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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Parama Survivor
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This is probably the longest mini ever
I am so glad I replaced out, I'd never have been able to keep up with this.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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In post 2259, Parama wrote:This is probably the longest mini ever
I am so glad I replaced out, I'd never have been able to keep up with this.
you would have been killed n1 if you didn'tBeck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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Neruz Mafia Scum
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Voidedmafia Jack of All Trades
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Meh.
First fakehammer: worked PERFECTLY...or as near as perfect as Elli and I wanted. Got me out of the hotseat, and got us both townpoints.
2nd fakehammer: ...Dammit.
3rd fakehammer: Oh, fuck it. Not that I really expected the heat to come back to me, but still, I was fairly pissed.
Still, my sincerest apologies about the 2nd fakehammer, Grey. I think I'll try to keep my votes on a single line from now on.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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In post 2261, Neruz wrote:Hey, i voted Ellibereth way before implosion >:C
Ellibereth was lurking, while that was fine up until now, no sane town shouldeverlet a lurker get to lylo for precisely this reason.
yeah but you were scummyBeck =/= The band
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Neruz Mafia Scum
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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In post 2265, Neruz wrote:In fact, the scummier i was, the better. Much better to have a strong scumread going into lylo than a null read lurker.
AgreedBeck =/= The band
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evilpacman18 Mafia Scum
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How does this game compare to the record for overall length?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Voidedmafia Jack of All Trades
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Llamarble Mafia Scum
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I had a massive false negative on Elli this game.
Well done by him looking town, but having both buddies go down leaves you in a very difficult position. *remembers multiple personality mafia*
WV, I had to find somebody else scummy and I thought the least town people were you and Neruz.
I realize WV hammered 2 scum but in my last game with bvoigtscum he hammered both buddies, so I didn't put the double bus past him.
And there was lurkiness and funny interactions enough that I got it wrong. Ah well.
Town did really well to lynch voidedscum in spite of me.
And especially to take down Elli after I died.
I totally agree with Grey that a lot of people did different things well and as a team it ended up working.
No need to feel too bad about lynching me; I did get roleblocked on a night with no NK after all.
Also there's the winning afterward part, hehe.-
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Voidedmafia Jack of All Trades
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I think that, if I had lived past D1, we would've had more of a chance, especially since I would've been far more active than Elli.
Considering how Hiphop seems to have disappeared (or I'm just not looking for him), it does kinda feel like I'd have been carrying the team alone, tbh.
Still, Elli, your lurking killed you.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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Up to scum to release QT.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Beck Jack of All Trades
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