Mini320: Urban Legends Mafia is over!

[Sentinel99]

vote: BrizzyBoi

I don't like to see boy spelled with an "i".

[Sentinel99]

unvote

vote: broomhead

I like stikey's av. I support anything Kingdom of Loathing.

[Sentinel99]

I think perhaps people are reading too much into stikey's post. I think he was a little suprised by the lack of nightkill, and so he started making educated guesses based on that. But, I guess I could be wrong.

[Sentinel99]

Well, you know, he guessed that there is a Doc type. I mean, we don't know that. Maybe scum just didn't turn in a nightkill. But the odds of that are slim.

[Sentinel99]

Right. I'm just not seeing what's so scummy about stikey's post.

[Sentinel99]

unvote: broomhead

But, I mean, how would a no lynch help at all? That would give mafia another shot at us in the night round with little chance of retaliation. What if they hit Cop or something we need?

[Sentinel99]

i think it's enough to go on for a day one with no kill.

He totally did. But, I guess I'm gonna side with BrizzyBoi.

vote: ziliu

[Sentinel99]

Why, stikey, why???

Interesting developments... why would the mafia kill the one player who everyone suspected the day before? *shrug* I'm of the opinion that BrizzyBoi needs to post soon.

[Sentinel99]

It's cool, town, vote me. I'm no scum, but I am expendable. I'd much prefer you lynch me then somebody we need. Personally, however, I'm with Yosarian.

vote: Der Hammer

Also, IGMEOY bluesoul. I love that the cop called HIAB innocent, and you still gave him the finger.

[Sentinel99]

Okay, in the interest of sharing information, would anybody like to know what stikey's role meant? Because I know. I don't know if anybody else does, but I can explain it. All anyone has to do is ask. That will also explain why I defended him. Oh, and I'm sorry, Brizzy. I didn't realize the time difference. I was getting excited earlier.

[Sentinel99]

I didn't really think the argumetn against you was that strong, but why would you suddenly claim to have a weak role and call yourself "expendable" like that?

I really do have a weak role, and I really am expendable.

[Sentinel99]

unvote: Der Hammer

Okay, now that that's out of the way...

stikey was Farmer, pro-town, savvy? Well, I'm Farmer's Wife, pro-town. We were a mason pair. I knew who he was, and he knew who I was, and we discussed things in the night rounds. I defended stikey because I knew he was clean. Also, he did me a favor and breadcrumbed a bit so I could prove we're in together.

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[Sentinel99]

It says directly that I know for a fact that he's not part of the mafia.

[Sentinel99]

FOS: bluesoul

Two days in a row he's jumped on me fairly quickly for tiny things, and he knew I'm a noob. I mean, I can understand jumping on me for some of the things I've said. But honest misunderstandings born of naivety? Weak reasoning, I know, but all I've got to go on at this point.

[Sentinel99]

You get the noob excuse for one (1) game.

Thank you Captain Rules.

[Sentinel99]

Okay, I'm getting a little lost. Somebody who is good at explaining: tell me who we assume innocent, why, and who we assume scummy and why, please.

[Sentinel99]

Vote: bluesoul

I really think we need to pressure him a bit, get some info. He is seeming really... wishy-washy just now.

[Sentinel99]

Unvote: bluesoul

Vote: audacesiuvat

[Sentinel99]

unvote

Zarquon, this is getting to be a tangled mess. I can see how easy it is for aud to be confirmed, but that takes a lead out for today. We've gotta cast votes somewhere, right?

[Sentinel99]

Vote: VisMaior

Let the wagon proceed.

[Sentinel99]

Curses. Teaches me to think I'm invincible. That "wagon jumping post" was me pretty much screwing around. I do think that Vis seems a little scummy, but I can't really back it. Brizzy voted him, and I was feeling inclined to follow the cop at the time. All in all I'm happy with my vote placement.

[Sentinel99]

Unvote, Vote bluesoul

[Sentinel99]

I still think that blue is scum. I can't prove it, but I have a strong feeling.

@Vis- I hadn't breadcrumbed yet because it's actually pretty hard to work S-T-I-K-E-Y in. I had come up with one when we got info on zillu, so I didn't get a chance to use it.

I don't really have any solid suspects beyond blue. I guess the only justification I can come up with is the wishy-washy Vis mentioned. He also said that my confirmation in the form of breadcrumbing was shakey. I think it's a little harder to confirm any better short of stikey saying I'm his mason partner, but then he's dead so... *shrug* Also, when we were still looking at aud as the lynch, blue flat contradicted himself, which I didn't like. I think Yos said something about it, come to think.

I think that blue should be our lynch today. I understand that my playstyle has been detrimental, but I'm learning.

[Sentinel99]

Sorry, double post. Napoleon was 5'2" in French feet. That's 5'6.5" standard English measure.

[Sentinel99]

Some say lightning fast reflexes. I call it not having a life.

[Sentinel99]

@bluesoul- Obviously stikey was my lover in this game. I'm his, you know, wife or whatever.

[Sentinel99]

Okay, the only way I could see to work in a Y was Yosarian... so...

"Super-Terribly-Incredibly-Knowledgeable-Extraordinary Yosarian". Shoulda used it when he got that question right, but... *shrug* Too little too late, I know.

[Sentinel99]

I'm pretty happy with my vote. The only way I'd be any happier would be if everybody agreed and voted Little Boy Blue also.

[Sentinel99]

I don't think he's lying about being John Wayne. The urban legend is the draft dodging bit. Check out snopes.

[Sentinel99]

I may be onto something here. I went back and reread ziliu's death. He died by drinking a soda that had been urinated on by a rat. Well, I looked that up on snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/raturine.asp

The link says how this is an urban legend that isn't true.

Also, on the note of aud's "Cell Phone Guy" claim, I looked up cell phones on snopes.

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=ce ... m=1&sp-s=0

There are a lot of legends surrounding cell phones. aud, could you elaborate on your flavor a bit please?

John Wayne appears on snopes, but not as a draft dodger, so I'm beginning to doubt broomhead. All of the John Wayne articles (or most of them, anyway) pertain to his religion.

[Sentinel99]

Vote: bluesoul

Okay, so far we have claimed:

Soda Guy, Mafia-ziliu (confirmed)
Farmer, Mason 1-stikey (confirmed)
Farmer's Wife, Mason 2-Sentinel99 (as confirmed as I can get, I guess)
Cell Phone Guy, Messager-audacesiuvat (give a night to prove)
John Wayne, Vig-broomhead (unproven)

Right now, the most out of place is John Wayne, admittedly, but John Wayne is the subject of urban legends, just not the one broomhead said. I'd like to hear a little more flavor from him.[/list]

[Sentinel99]

Vote bluesoul

I still think he's scum.

[Sentinel99]

ROFL

That's pretty funny.

[Sentinel99]

I still believe aud. I mean, call it WIFOM if you will, but I don't think scum would throw it in our faces. aud was resigned to lynching at one point, and if we gave him one night we can give him another. I still think blue is scum, and I still can't prove it. I think aud made a perfectly reasonable assumption, and I think that blue is just pushing a little too hard on this lynch.

[Sentinel99]

Right now, I most suspect Blue and VisMaior. I know I've been on Blue from the start just about, but I still really think he's scum. I mean, he's been pushing dumb wagons with weak logic the whole game. Also, Vis has a tendency to throw out some of the weirdest reasoning I've ever encountered. All in all, I'm probably not changing my vote from Blue until he's lynched, or unless another cop suddenly claims guilty somewhere else, which I find unlikely.

[Sentinel99]

But that would imply that he is a badguy different from the mafia. I only see 1 NK. He could be some sort of cult tough, but then why not just recruit someone who would have supported his claim?

Weird logic. Also your post just above mine. If he was lying, why would he need to message anyone at all? He could just claim his message didn't go through.

@ Blue: It's only a wagon if others pick it up. I've just been riding you.

[Sentinel99]

See, upon a second reading that made a ton more sense. I see what you're saying. You're going on the assumption that he's scum who also has control of a messaging ability. I was thinking along the lines of his not even having a message ability. Apologies.

[Sentinel99]

Not entirely.

[Sentinel99]

Is anybody still in?

[Sentinel99]

I'm still fond of my vote on Blue. Incidentally, I'll be out of town until Thursday, so don't kill me for lurking, please.

[Sentinel99]

I got no message. Also, how does being unlynchable make somebody auto townie? What kinds of roles are normally unlynchable? Also, maybe it was only a one time thing or something. I think that we should give it another shot and see what happens.

[Sentinel99]

I don't think Der Hammer is scum. He wouldn't have claimed aud's message if he were, IMO. I wouldn't if I were scum. Think about it, aud claims to have messaged me, and I wouldn't have gotten anything, which would make aud the play for the day.

I find Scalebane's play scummy, but his reasoning behind it seems solid. At this point, however, it seems the most untrustworthy.

[Sentinel99]

I was actually waiting to see what Der Hammer had to say.

[Sentinel99]

Right, aud. That's what I was trying to say, and everybody started harping about how he had to claim the message.

[Sentinel99]

What does "eat crow" mean??

[Sentinel99]

It seems obvious to me that blue is lying. If he's not, then that role is broken in half. Der Hammer as vote manipulator would also be way too powerful scum. Now, the part that confuses me is the lynch immunity. I would assume it's one-shot. I've felt that blue was scum this whole game, and I've had trouble pinning anything down. This miraculous one-shot cop that popped into play is, frankly, ridiculous. I mean, if this doesn't cry scum, I'm not really sure what will. Also, it would appear that VisMaior is his scumbuddy, so I'm willing to proceed in whichever order we decide would be best.

[Sentinel99]

vote: VisMaior

[Sentinel99]

I still think that it's bluesoul. I've thought it this entire game. I've been friends with blue for a while, and there's just something in the way he's posted. I mean, it's nothing really concrete. I'm more inclined to believe Der Hammer's claim. I still think that that one-shot cop claim was just dumb.

vote: bluesoul

If we're wrong, then blue is still lynch-immune, and we can take care of it tomorrow.

[Sentinel99]

It's mostly a vibe thing. Also, I've seen Der Hammer to be largely pro-town throughout. I can't really give you anything concrete though. Seriously, blue is the play. If he's lynch-immune then we can still go for the other tomorrow, see?

[Sentinel99]

It's 'cause I knew, man. I knew.