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Vote audacesiuvatbecause voting the person above you is the thing to do. And I don't know what's up with your name.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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Meh, yesterday spoiled me. I don't really have a read on anyone yet. The reread only took like 10 seconds, too.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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Vote Sentinel99, FoS HIAB, IGMEOY audacesiuvat
Brizzyboi makes some good points, a generalization on that level seems like he's really just trying to blend in. HIAB, explain this hunch some. Even though the cop found you innocent you may very well be GF pushing for the quick lynch. That said, I'd like to know what makes you suspicious of audacesiuvat.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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I just want him to elaborate on this hunch of his. I'm not saying "OMFG GF," but he should explain. Sharing info is good. Witholding info is bad. We're already ahead one scumbag so the more info we have to work with early the better our chances are of ending teh game quickly.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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He's still fairly new to online Mafia (I go to school with him). I'm not sure if he's gambiting or just being new. For right now all I can do is metagame, and by that, I'm okay with where my vote is. But by all means Sentinel, go ahead and share what you're wanting to share, since you're obviously eager to.Yosarian2 wrote:
(shakes head)Sentinel99 wrote:It's cool, town, vote me. I'm no scum, but I am expendable.
Why do people say stuff like that?
I didn't really think the argumetn against you was that strong, but why would you suddenly claim to have a weak role and call yourself "expendable" like that? It's just not good for the town when people do that.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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Sentinel99 wrote:FOS: bluesoul
Two days in a row he's jumped on me fairly quickly for tiny things, and he knew I'm a noob. I mean, I can understand jumping on me for some of the things I've said. But honest misunderstandings born of naivety? Weak reasoning, I know, but all I've got to go on at this point.Unvote
I meant to earlier but I had to leave. You get the noob excuse for one (1) game.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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It's best just to use your intuition, in my opinion. Anyone that points someone else out for the cop to look at probably has something to hide themselves. Also, I agree with Yosarian, keep innocent results to yourself.
HIAB, since you may or may not make it to tomorrow, would you go ahead and explain this hunch?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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Reread what you just wrote. Speculation on that level is almost useless.BrizzyBoi wrote:I recieved no such message. The only thing I can think of (if you are who you say you are) is thatmaybehelp im a bug has a redirection action and redirected your message to himself.Maybehe assumed that because you were communicating at night, that you were mafia.
For nowUnvote: audacesiuvatbut that is a lot of maybes.
Vote audacesiuvat. The fact that BrizzyBoi can't corroborate his mason claim is more than enough for me.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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Maybe he needs to get to this night? I don't know, but the only logical thing would be a redirect and I don't think we want HIAB to roleclaim. Audacesiuvat should probably be the lynch today.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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You're misunderstanding. A redirector is possible, but even you said the circumstances would have to be just exactly right. When I say speculating is almost useless, I mean we shouldn't use speculation without corroboration to decide the course of the game. Speculating that audacesiuvat reallyisa three-shot mason and he reallydidget redirected is fine. Do I think we should let him off the hook? Not at all.
I'm really torn regarding HIAB. Since he's essentially confirmed I don't know how much in the way of a life expectancy he has. It's probably best to leave it up to him to decide what he wants to do.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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bluesoul Goon
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I'mreallyconfused. I'm thinking we should give him another night. But I'm also thinking I missed something because the same logic led to a lot of people voting for him. I really don't know what's going on.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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The cop is not infallible. As a matter of fact, he got an innocent result. Blindly following someone else is good enough to merit aSentinel99 wrote:Curses. Teaches me to think I'm invincible. That "wagon jumping post" was me pretty much screwing around. I do think that Vis seems a little scummy, but I can't really back it. Brizzy voted him, and I was feeling inclined to follow the cop at the time. All in all I'm happy with my vote placement.Unvote, Vote Sentinel99in my book. You're pushing awfully hard for someone that only has a dead guy to back you up.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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I made myself look pretty bad, it's true. I've gotten so confused on that issue that I'm pretty much ignoring it for now.Yosarian2 wrote:Yeah, Broomhead is pretty clearly wrong here.
Still, at the moment, the most suspicious thing I've seen is the way Bluesoul has been jumping back and forth on the audacesiuvat issue all day, contradicting himself at least once, so I think I'll keep my vote there for the moment.
Osloboditelj (good lord, what's with these names?) makes a good case against Broomhead, though. Can we get aVote Count, please?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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He claims to be the mason of the dead Farmer. We've got no confirmation from the deceased aside from some breadcrumbing. I still don't like his attitude in game.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Unvote, Vote Broomhead
Perhaps Sentinel is protown but his playstyle is just awful in this game, to the point of distracting the town. Broomhead is my most suspect after Sentinel due to sheer wrongheadedness so I don't have any problems with moving the vote from here to there.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
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bluesoul Goon
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Keep on following opinion, there. You and Yosarian should get a room. (Not inferring that this is any of Yosarian's doing, but you've pretty much been mindlessly agreeing with him.)Sentinel99 wrote:Also, when we were still looking at aud as the lynch, blue flat contradicted himself, which I didn't like. I think Yos said something about it, come to think.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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I don't have anything else I can really say on that aside from everyone gets confused; it doesn't always make them scum. Broomhead, however, has suggested a plan of action that isYosarian2 wrote:Honestly, I'm not all that happy with my vote. Bluesoul did looked a little scummy, but I wish I had something better to go on; at the moment, though, his self-contradiction is the only thing I've seen that really looks like a scum tell to me.highlyanti-town. Why my vote in a moment of confusion puts me on the same level as this is beyond me.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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He's waiting for it to get to an untenable position where he can claim doctor and force a mislynch. Not much I can do about that.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Your roleistestable. Does it prove anything? Not at all aside from you can kill people, and we let you live another night where you have plenty of time to come up with better reasoning behind your claim. Letting the town choose who you kill is the oldest gambit in the book. The fact that you chose to wait until yesterday to claim vig is pretty strong; vig's not that major of a power role, guy. Waving it around in our faces does not make it any stronger.
Right now I'm thinking SK, if he's a killing role at all.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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So you sent him a message twice; once that he claimsnot to have receivedand now he's dead and unable to corroborate your story. Why should we believe it at this point?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Hey kettle, you're black!Sentinel99 wrote:Right now, I most suspect Blue and VisMaior. I know I've been on Blue from the start just about, but I still really think he's scum. I mean,. Also, Vis has a tendency to throw out some of the weirdest reasoning I've ever encountered. All in all, I'm probably not changing my vote from Blue until he's lynched, or unless another cop suddenly claims guilty somewhere else, which I find unlikely.he's been pushing dumb wagons with weak logic the whole gameShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Hello! I'm not dead!
(Actually, I was out at college orientation. I thought I messaged the mod but I may not have.)
I am an unlynchable townie. It was also kind of hinted by the mod that I may (or may not) start getting some kind of power after being lynched; it didn't happen last night so I'm not sure. I will not nameclaim at this time because of the (small) chance that I'll be able to counter.
Scalebane's redirection of audacesiuvat makes absolutely no sense to me. How is that a protown move when we're already about ready to lynch him?
Vote Scalebane
Der Hammer's acknowledgement of the message is not proving of much of anything as it could be all WIFOM, trying to prove himself as town.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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But you completely ignored the thought that you could be redirecting it to scum, who could simply deny they received it?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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@Der Hammer: For future reference, save a power like that until the endgame. That might have spelled the difference between winning and losing, but we won't know now.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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No need. I received a one-shot Cop ability last night. Der Hammer's one of the scum.
Moving right along then,Vote Der HammerShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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Sure. I'm Bill Gates. Legend has it that I give out money and fabulous prizes for people forwarding my chain letters. Last night I got to choose one of several items; I chose a gift certificate for The Sharper Image, which resulted in a one-shot cop inspection.
I can only speculate on what the Gift Card for Victoria's Secret would've done.
It was in my original PM that I would be immune to lynches, but after one was attempted on me I would unlock the second half of my role. I won't get another one-shot ability until the night after this next one.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Actually, this just hit me.IfDer Hammer is a double voter, there are 3 scenarios.
1.) The game should already be over with a scum win, since they would control three votes.
2.) He is a double-voting SK, which isn't too unbelievable since I got that exact role on WIFOM a few games back.
3.) There is something wrong with my cop inspection.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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More powerful than a lynch-immune scum? If I were lynch-immune scum, the town couldn't win. Think about it. You've mindlessly shouted that I'm scum this entire game, and frankly I'm sick of it. Even being cleared, you should never be as stupidly, mindbogglingly aggressive as you've been this game.Sentinel99 wrote:Der Hammer as vote manipulator would also be way too powerful scum.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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I have no reason to doubt my inspection after that clarification. That would be quite good, as scum roles go.Confirm Vote Der Hammer
To clarify, my result didn't say Mafia, only Scum. I don't know if that'll end up meaning anything but we haven't seen an SK yet, either.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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I would agree but I've overestimated players before. I'm actually catching crap on MTGS right now for that exact thing.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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Now you're backtracking. You're hinting that you can do it again. Earlier you said you only got two shots at it. Why the shaky wording? Afraid that this is all for you?Der Hammer wrote:Its proven that I have manipulated votes on at least two occasions. This is an absurdly powerfull ability when given to scum.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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bluesoul Goon
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Oh, of course you don't believe it. How is it so magical that I hit scum? From where I stand, it was a 50/50 chance, considering that Sentinel is cleared and I would not investigate myself, and we have 2 scum remaining out of 4 remaining choices.Der Hammer wrote:Now you have plucked a miracle one-shot investigation and now you claim to have magically hit scum. I just don't buy it at all and am surprised other people have so willingly believed it.
That it's you?Yosarian2 wrote:Seems to me like the other scum has to be you. Is there something other possibility I'm missing?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
Anjaga1989: you fulfill my desires
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bluesoul Goon
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Fine, I can't really argue against VisMaior being scum but I'd rather go with my inspection. Do what you will, though.
Vote VisMaiorand I hope I didn't just blow the game.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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"Mafia without bluesoul is like checkers without a board." --Feyd_Ruin-
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My PM is obscure on that note, deliberately I assume. I couldn't say either way.Yosarian2 wrote:Hmm. Bluesoul, are you still lynch immune?ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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I've said pretty much everything I can say. It's pretty lousy that someone's relying on a hunch in endgame when I got a cop investigation that says otherwise. No, I can't help that I got a one-shot inspection. What am I to do, act like Ididn'tget one? If I get lynched and that's the end of it then I'm certainly not blaming myself for the loss.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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bluesoul Goon
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Eh, it was a high-risk, high-reward move. I was fairly sure I was safe with already being proven unlynchable.Yosarian2 wrote:I believed Bluesoul until he pulled that "one-shot cop" stuff out of nowhere.ShowThe Tooth Returns.
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