Mini 362 - Open Role Bastard Mafia (Game Over)

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vote: themanhimself

I am posting in this thread!

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unvote. vote zindaras

Pretending to be like scum is scumtell!

or something.

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I think we should talk about butterflies. And maybe prod latecomers? This is weird.

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I think mass claiming is definitely a bad idea in this game--it would not tell us who any of the scum are, but would give them clear targets among the town.

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Well, claims will help. I don't understand what Twomz means by saying that counterclaims aren't going to help. Just because we know WHAT roles are in this game doesn't mean that a counterclaim does nothing. You treat a counterclaim in this game like a counterclaim in any other game: Lynch the first claimer then, if they're not scum, lynch the other one.

unvote, vote: nai

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I don't see right now how you guys speculating on roles is helping the town. It may help out when someone claims it but right now, it's just giving scum potential ideas on which roles may be the best and which ones they should try to off first =\

The scum doesn't know who's what role.

I don't see how your comment is relevant?

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FOS Shadowlurker

Role speculation is not anti-town in this game. Trying to speculate about -who- has which role very well might be at this point.

I think I'm going to

Unvote

and

Vote: Bogre

. If claims are definitely anti town, then how the heck would speculating who has what role not be anti town?

Uh... either you misread what he said, or you're misrepresenting it, I think.

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I thought the post I quoted with my vote spoke for itself.

Nai was seriously advocating mass claiming in this situation. I found this unwise at best, scummy at worst.

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What did I do, mayhem?

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Hmm, I don't get a good feeling from that post, Twomz.

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Nai, why would there be any counterclaims in this game?

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Help I'm a bug provided reasoning for his vote? Where? As far as I can see he just quoted something Nai said without explaining what was suspisious about it. Nai's voting him for that reason, isn't he?

I thought the post I quoted with my vote spoke for itself.

Nai was seriously advocating mass claiming in this situation. I found this unwise at best, scummy at worst.

Reading is FUN-damental!

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On another point, counterclaims are definately going to be a part of this game, especially with bastardized roles, if the roles start acting like other roles.

I don't see how this could cause any counterclaims.

Let's say my role isn't the Insane Cop, but I suddenly start getting investigations that I suspect are reversed. No matter which faction I'm fighting for, I'm not going to claim to be the Insane Cop (if I'm ever forced to claim), but my original role, bastardized--if I'm mafia, because I don't want to force the 1-1 trade that would result, and if I'm town, because I don't want to cause random chaos.

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Dude, you said "On another point, counterclaims are definately going to be a part of this game, especially with bastardized roles,

if the roles start acting like other roles.

"

It was

your idea

that bastardized roles might mimic others. Don't act like I'm pulling random ideas from thin air.

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Vote:Help I'm a bug

who seems to be stirring things up against Nai.

That's one of the scummiest reasons to vote I've seen. Just saying.

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Wait, that's scummy, but you voting for me for "advocating for mass claim" when the quoted post had absolutely nothing of the sort in it wasn't scummy?

To quote what BabyJesus might say: Why isn't HIAB dead yet?

*yawn* Arguing that what I said was scummy doesn't mean that what your buddy did wasn't scummy. Quit trying to distract the town.

Reread what he said. I'm scummy because I'm "stirring up things against Nai". Now, this could only scummy if he has any information about your alignment. Otherwise, accusing anyone ever would be scummy.

There are many possibilities here, but the most likely ones are:

1) Nai is town, Mayhem is scum. In this situation, Mayhem

knows

that Nai is town, and is trying to get on Nai's good side by defending him.

2) Nai is scum, Mayhem is scum. In this situation, Mayhem doesn't want Nai to die because they are scum together. I find this one slightly less likely than the first, simply because he's being so blunt about it.

The other possibilities for your alignments are:

3) Nai is town, Mayhem is town. In this situation, Mayhem, for reasons based on the posts (as we haven't had a night yet), would have to have come to the unshakable conclusion that Nai is town. I find this very unlikely for him to do day 1, no matter his role.

4) Nai is scum, Mayhem is town. In this situation, Mayhem is an idiot.

Therefore, from the statement

Vote:Help I'm a bug

who seems to be stirring things up against Nai.

I am forced to conclude that Mayhem is most likely scum.

The fact that you're defending him through distraction instead of realizing this makes me quite suspicious that possibility 2 is the correct one.

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You don't have to be absolutely sure someone is to defend them. If you think they aren't the play, you will defend them. I don't see how you drew the conclusion M4yhem is 100% sure Nai is town from those few sentences defending Nai. What did you want him to do instead? Make a half assed defense that would cover his tracks if Nai was town and if Nai was scum? That would get him lynched for sure.

And yeah, you're going to think I'm scum for this post because I'm attacking you and "defending" scum.

No, it's not that he defended Nai. It's that he

voted me

for attacking Nai that was scummy.

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Please do.

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Help- That's pure hypocrisy. You voted for Nai on little to no evidence and then you complain when I vote for you? It's only one vote; it won't kill you. I voted for you because your reasoning on Nai is poor. Do you deny that your reasoning on Nai was poor? If so explain why.
This OMGUS stuff you're coming out with does nothing to make me want to change my vote.

See previous post.

It's not that you're voting me for

little

reason; that I'd be fine with. It's the specific reason you gave ("stirring things up against Nai") that makes me suspicious.

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unvote

Saw something that makes me rethink.

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What, repeated explanations, disillusionment, and truth?

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No.