Stargate SG-1 Mafia- Game OVER! BUT WHO WON!?

[Occult]

I'm in a game full of nerds....


I'm guessing the off-worlds will probuly have some mason types amoung the six.

[Occult]

For now, though, I think the future roles are a moot point, because we can't say anything for certain, so why think about them?

Because we can.

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...Wait...Occult, are you stalking me or something? You're in like three of my games. It's creepy, man.

I could say the same about you...

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I believe johhan has 7 votes at the moment, BM.

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Yea, I really dislike johhan's post in 106, I had wanted to give him the benifit of doubt (For being new) but that post makes it hard to do so.

Before we start piling more votes on him (He's only at 6 so it isn't much of a worry now) we need to get more information out of the situation.

If we were to lynch him right this second we'll have very little to go on tommarow. That's why I'll keep my vote on noone for now.

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second, its only page 6. no D1 espeicially in a large game like this, should be only 6 pages. hell, the first newbie i was in had 12 pages of D1

He's at 8 votes right now I believe (please don't crucify me if I'm wrong) and has 5 to go. I doubt that johhan will be lynched extreamly soon, but we need more conversation before we get anyone lynched.

I'd also like to hear a bit from Al about his earlier comment.

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Post 71 really clinched it for me.

Post 71 is a weirdly worded post. It looks like a newbie's attempt to put pressure.

I agree that he has said some scummy things and needs to be held responsible for that. Before we go farther though, we have a few people who have been a bit silent so far and I would like to hear what they think.

-TonyMontana
-Rosso Carne
-VD
-Erg0

[Occult]

Whoa, I missed a bit.....

johhan is the most obvious mafia I've seen in my short time playing, though I don't believe we should lynch just yet.

Also with a double vote can that person chose whether or not they use 2 votes? or is it automatic?

[Occult]

Makes sense. I don't believe a DV would give themselfs up at this point.

[Occult]

Who the hell would kill blahgo/TCS? He didn't even post....

I'd like to hear a bit more from Al about his comments earlier (I asked before and didn't get an answer). I doubt he's mafia, but I'm getting a SK feel from him.

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Guys, please stop voting and unvoting. We need to decide for one.

For me its either Lowell or Johhan. Now please agree on ONE person. I want to see cases.

@BM: Becauuuse, who caaares, let's just get someone lynched. I've played like 7 games, there wasn't a single game that started at night. I WANT BLOOD!! I WANT DEATH!!!! KILLLLLL

1) I am happy with voting for either one, so let's cooperate and get one of them
2) They already have cases on them, although very messy

Elias, your fishing for air.

And you know what, I would happily change places with Johhan right now. Somebody needs to be lynched, and discussion will not help find anyone Day1.

Vote: Johhan

These quotes are you pushing for a quick lynch (I think there's a couple more) I was wondering why your so bent on the quick day.

You push for less discussion (Discussion helps town BTW) and quicker lynchs.

Also in another game you are much less agressive in pushing for the lynch.

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Ah....didn't see that.

Then I'll

FOS Albert

[Occult]

I'm still very suspicious of albert but after looking at rafK's argument I'm really not liking metatron at the moment.

A good amount of his posts are one of two things: Off-topic posts and defense of johhan. With a couple of posts about the DV and the off-worlds. Besides those there isn't much else. Metatron posted enough so he would look like he was participating in the discussion of johhan's lynch.

Vote Metatron

Well, I've read through the past few pages (sorry, but It's finals week. It's been rather traumatic) And I have two comments.

1. What, exactly, is the case on Johhan? I get the case on Lowell, but Johhan has, to me, looked like the type of newbie that scum use to scape goat. I was in his position in one of my games, and it cost us the game, so I have a certain amount of sympathy for him.

You sure you really want to claim? I'm still rather against lynching Johhan.

As for Johhan...his claim makes me even more suspicious about him, but at the same time, I'm intrigued enough to listen to what he has to say before putting him one step closer into the noose.

Usually, the problem I'd have right now with Lynching Johhan is that he's just "too much" of a mafia player. His movements, especially his joke just now, were so outlandishly scummy that he'd make poor scum.

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Metatron's Day 1 posts:
24 total

1 random Vote
1 post about Coppélia's name
1 vague post about the bandwagon

2 posts about stargate

1 about off-worlds

1 about how many games we're in together

1 defending johhan and attacking Albert
1 saying Al made a stupid comment
1 saying Al is an idiot
2 defending Johan (One Saying It Would Be Bad For Him To Claim)

3 about the DV

1 that defends johhan and attempts to distance himself from him at the same time

8 Off-topic posts after the lynch

5 real comments
1 defending johhan and attacking Albert
2 defending Johan (One Saying It Would Be Bad For Him To Claim)
1 that defends johhan and attempts to distance himself from him at the same time

Maybe 7 if you include these:
1 vague post about the bandwagon
1 saying Al is an idiot


I'm looking back at Pollux now, but Metatron is looking like a good play. He was very consistent at trying to get the spotlight off Johhan. Along with his posts that keep him in the game but not attacking Johhan.

[Occult]

eh.... Ignore the bolded stuff

[Occult]

As much as I don't mind talk on the newcomers (as it is important). We had people who didn't talk yesterday and now we're getting more of those today...

Also, for the sake of discussion, what is everyone's thoughts on metatron?

[Occult]

I do understand why you feel I'm scummy. Tell me this, though. If It turned out Johhan was innocent, would my actions be scummy?

The real question is: If johhan was a townie would you have acted the same way?

As I posted before it is not only the defence of johhan that I found scummy its your posting content as a whole. You were VERY johhan-centered yesterday 4 out of your real game oriented posts (Over half) were in defense of johhan. The rest was posting to continue to be in the game without being called out as a lurker.

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I'm liking Albert less and less. He's playing on too many teams.

1. Anti-Metatron

*starts playing violin for the appeal to emotion*

This really makes no sense. Anything resting on the premise that your not scum is already biased.

2. Pro- Metatron? He doesn't give reasons but he seems to be Fosing me for my attacks on Metatron.

FoS: Occult

3. Anti/pro Pollux Unvotes Pollux and says he is just evening it up.

Make that 8-8, see how the other players align.

I might be reaching with this but I'm REALLY not feeling Al. I don't have much in the concrete but I thought I would throw this out for discussion.

Explanation on this:

FoS: Occult

Would also be good for discussion.

[Occult]

Eh.

unvote

[Occult]

I'd vote for Pollux, but (as it's been mentioned) I think we should keep votes off him until we've had more discussion.

[Occult]

A few things:

@ Albert
1. What was that FoS for in that earlier post? (it seems that your just looking for reasons to OMGUS)
2. You have my attention from earlier comments.
3. Yes, you have been looking like your jumping around.
4. Your fishing for roles isn't sitting well with me either.

The answer to Number 1 would be helpful

@Metatron
1. Why is Walter a likely Safe claim? Info on that would be helpful

@Anyone
Since Albert brought it up, what are your thoughts on me?

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The fact that I value discussion doesn't mean I was diverting the wagon.

[Occult]

Geeks.

I do like what TG is saying though. I would still like to hear a bit more from Pollux.

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2 questions:

1. Why did you hammer johhan, erg0?
2. Pollux, what do you think of erg0?

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Sorry. I'm still mad about the megatron thing. I am NOT a freaking decepticon.

Why is it I feel like a geek any time you post something I understand?

I'm not liking Tony right now (I know its already been said but...) I think an explanation of his voting record is needed.

Also, he hasn't posted enough to seem pro-town IMO, Albert.

[Occult]

IMO, Occult, the few posts he's made don't reveal anything scummy.

doesn't reveal anything townie either.

[Occult]

If so, I would have gone with "HELP ME".

You mean this?

or

His distraction comments?


With you being a distraction on day 1, I don't know. It Doesn't seem likely.

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2) Otherwise waiting for Coppelia/Primate/Rosso/pancakemix's replacement.

I'm still waiting for this to happen.

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Trying to end the day there tony?

FOS Tony

I'm still waiting to hear from everyone before I commit to a lynch.

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I doubt this is going to do much but....

@Rosso, what do you think of the game in 20 words or more.

[Occult]

It's like you're giving him a school paper assignment... -.-

[Occult]

Thx Rosso.

[Occult]

2 things:

1) I actually wasn't being serious with the first post.

2) Are you actually a day vig?

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EBWOP:

By first post I mean the 20 words one.

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Did we get enough votes on pollux?

also, if I was vigged would that end the day (I thought it didn't)?

Lastly, thx for answering my question Rosso.

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\0_o/

What.

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[Occult]

kill: Occult

This was serious? I didnt think that RC was actually a daykiller of some sort.

We'll find out soon. I think Rosso may have answered that question by saying that the day has ended, but who knows...

[Occult]

Could be but that would only last until the Mod got back.

Most likely, it's either,

1) I'm dead
2) Rosso just is trying to get a reaction out of people
3) He was pissed and vented

It could be 3 combined with 1 or 2.
All three
1 and 2.

He didn't directly answer my question (He did indirectly though) so I more inclined to beleive 3 and 2.

But I wouldn't be too surpraised to check tommarrow and see my death scene up.

[Occult]

*Believe
*Surprised

[Occult]

Yes we are, but I don't know if it constitutes an fos.

Also, Albert could you explain your post a bit more?

[Occult]

ah.

Your not cleared but IMO, your definatly not todays lynch. I would still like to wait for the replacements (I know CD is looking hard for them) but Rosso's post was right theres been alot of off-topic discussion I think we need to sort out if its scum trying to distract attention or if its nothing to worry about.

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*Gives YB a cookie*

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You know, whatever happened to this Pollux wagon...?

Its still there but we are gathering more info I guess. We have a few people (inc. myself) waiting for replacements to post analysis.

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I'd like to wait for more proof on that subject before we lynch my innocents. Even if they are scum.

what do you mean your innocents? and which subject? the first, second, third, or aside comment?

He investigated Albert.

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I don't know if it counts, but I did pissed him off. Anyway until Rosso says anything about it we should put this in our set aside pile (along with the games flavor, DVs, Albert Rampage and metatron's sanity) to discuss at a later time.

I would like more details out of yogurt, I know its hard to jump into a big game and hand out detailed oppions, but a fresh look on the game would be very helpful.

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I believe we should leave the KILL: OCCULT thing alone, i personally believe him, it didn't go through and there are bigger things to worry about (Like getting back on topic and lynching scum).

Note: Im not saying rosso is not scum but lets not let this get over exaggerated.

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In all honesty, most of the people in this game are behaving in an anti-town manner.

Could you elaborate on this a bit?

I do agree with Rosso's thoughts on the OWs though, we need to be careful with them(At the very least there is probably a self-aligned in the mix somewhere)

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IGMEOY: Rosso and Occult

Have we not established that revisiting the setup is unhelpful and just leads to a slowdown of scum-finding?[/b]

*headsmack* your right.

It's looking like a Tony Vs. Pollux lynch. I'm going to go back and do a reread on both of them.

I think we should get everyone posting their thoughts on on both of them.

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I'm not sure of pollux, but he is a better read then tony.

Vote: Tony

His refusal to really add anything is making me a bit jumpy about him.

[Occult]

I don't like the smell of it, but we now need more discussion on the subject before we move on.

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unvote

I would like more conversation on it. I'm not against a tony lynch, but a claim is and should be examined.

[Occult]

delete the IS and AND *A claim should be examined*

[Occult]

We also need to avoid anymore claims today (we've given away too many already).

[Occult]

1)You could be trying to pull a counter claim out.
2)Your on edge b/c you've acted scummy
3)Don't just throw your votes around, we've discussed Albert and he is not in contention for a lynch today


Lastly, this post doesn't help you in my mind.

[Occult]

If I'm lying, then there has to be a real mason out there that counterclaim me. If a scum counterclaims me, then he's dead the next day.

This could be you fishing for the other mason.

[Occult]

1)You could be trying to pull a counter claim out.
2)Your on edge b/c you've acted scummy
3)Don't just throw your votes around, we've discussed Albert and he is not in contention for a lynch today

1) yeah, I'm sure the mafia thinks a lone mason is a good trade-off for a mobster
2) i understand that, but until i'm counterclaimed, i shouldn't be on edge
3) I thought of that just after i posted it, but ima leave it for good measure, cause i really don't understand why he would come out so strong against my claim with no reasoning.

1)In desperation you could get one to claim and then it would be up for grabs who got lynched
2)Answer alls question
3)I don't like your answer

[Occult]

Tony you haven't defended yourself you've only fought with us.

[Occult]

I actually don't trust the flavor very much after our discussion...

[Occult]

lol

[Occult]

Wow, you don't trust a flavor I haven't even posted yet..

I don't trust flavor very much, Period, at this point.

[Occult]

Also, I like Tony's defense, he kept cool under the pressure that was put on him, still on my radar but I'm not going to vote for his lynch today.

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Heh. I kinda got that feeling too, but, I agree with RafK that Al is going further down in my book.

We're back to pollux now and I will do a reread before committing to a lynch.

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I'm feeling like pollux is trying to counter claim or something (I'm with the rest of you, I have no idea what he's saying). Clearer would be best....

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Streetflo is rubbing me the wrong way.

He hasn't posted much (yes, i know he just replaced in) and he votes pollux without any reasons.

I would like to know his full thoughts on the game so far.

The exact same goes for yogurt.

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I want you to tell us what you think.

Who you think is scum and townie.

Possible pairs ups.

You know, whatever you think would be helpful.

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CD wrote I will be unavailable on Friday 15th June and Saturday 16th June as I am traveling to and attending an Open Day at the University of Sussex.

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ditto.

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Once in a while, it'd be nice for people to read my sig, which does point to V/LA when I make relevant posts there.

*Cough*

CD wrote I will be unavailable on Friday 15th June and Saturday 16th June as I am traveling to and attending an Open Day at the University of Sussex.

CDB: I've only read the posts on this page since returning, so I was commenting on Erg0/DeanWinchester's posts above. Kudos for being diligent, though.

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Hopefully now we can get back on track with some real discussion.

Pollux's final words didn't help much.... there isn't much there 'cept for the fact he finds

VanDamien
ancalagon
Rosso Carne
Xyzzy
Erg0

scummy.

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This isn't closed out yet?

While we are waiting I got to ask....

Metatron why are you such a faggot?

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:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

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It has to be stargate worlds since he had that attached to his signature when earlier in the game.

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CDB may not be here. Plus, I don't think he has a CoMod.

[Occult]

Come on. It was just an insult between enemies.

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Oh. Your serious.

Then I apologize.

[Occult]

Faggot is not an insult, it is a slang word meaning homosexual. That deeply offends me. Deal with it.

??

I don't think he was targeting you.

If the word offends him it doesn't need to target him.

Wow, this game has sorta veered off course.

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I was screwing around in twilight. Don't mind my jackassness.

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BWAHAHAHAHA............haha............ha.......Goddammit.