Mini 459 - /cows Mafia - GAME OVER, YAY!

[JordanA24]

/cows

Original Roll String: 1d12

1 12-Sided Dice: (11) = 11

[JordanA24]

Vote: Hjallti

[JordanA24]

And here was me thinking Maths class ended 6 hours ago.

[JordanA24]

My math class ended 2 wks ago, so any more of this crap and I'll come over to your house in RL and (Censored).

Aight.

I can tell this guy doesn't like Maths.

[JordanA24]

My math class ended 2 wks ago, so any more of this crap and I'll come over to your house in RL and (Censored).

Aight.

I can tell this guy doesn't like Maths.

ZOMG!!!!!!!111111111112

You're psychic

Finally, someone who recognises my awesome abilities.

[JordanA24]

I don't hate maths geeks, I just hate the math geeks who become examiners and make up pointless problems which we will never have to solve agian in our lives.

QFT

[JordanA24]

Hey, I see a random bandwagon.

Unvote Vote: Hadhfang

[JordanA24]

I would liek to know why Jordan decided to random bandwagon, even thoguh the nature of this game is a very random one.

Since the discussion has been mostly fluff about Maths, drugs and MOS's SCHTICK, I wanted to generate discussion.

[JordanA24]

Since the discussion has been mostly fluff about Maths, drugs and MOS's SCHTICK, I wanted to generate discussion.

FLUFF?!?

Smite: Jordan

MOSTLY FLUFF, your contributions have of course been excellent.

[JordanA24]

Since the discussion has been mostly fluff about Maths, drugs and MOS's SCHTICK, I wanted to generate discussion.

FLUFF?!?

Smite: Jordan

MOSTLY FLUFF, your contributions have of course been excellent.

[JordanA24]

They've been so great, I posted twice about them.

[JordanA24]

I'd say quite a few of us are guilty there.

[JordanA24]

Not only did xyzzy not notice, he even expressed approval of this vote until ThAdmiral pointed out it's evils.

unvote, vote: xyzzy

Good catch

Unvote Vote: xyzzy

Please explain.

[JordanA24]

By forcing someone into a -2 (or was it -3?)

-3 i think. I had 4 votes on me.

anyway,

Unvote

That vote is a random one and hasn't proved very productive. That and it was an OMGUS vote anyway making it even less productive.

Why not vote for someone else?

Because I don't know who to vote!

I'll throw a couple of FoS's out if that makes you happy though.

FoS:Blue Zebra
FoS: Xyzzy

So, you get criticised for being noncommital, then you FOS the 2 people who the others are looking at the most other than yourself.

FOS: Hadhfang

[JordanA24]

Alright, one more to be clearer.

I am doing this on purpose. I'm following the game closely and still playing, but I'm not going to post again today from this point on.

It's people like you who really frustrate me. WHY BOTHER PLAYING IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO POST. IF IT'S A PLAYSTYLE, IT'S COMPLETELY SHIT. IF YOU'RE TOWN, IT DOESN'T HELP AT ALL, AND IF YOU'RE SCUM, YOUR JUST GOING TO GET YOURSELF LYNCHED.

If he doesn't start posting NOW,

I third the request for replacement.

[JordanA24]

Remove request

[JordanA24]

Re-request replacement

[JordanA24]

Wait, if he does have some sort of requriement, then the mod not replacing him will prove it, and we'll alomst assuredly be losing a very powerful role.

Remove your requests for his replacement before you give the mafia a free shot at a power role.

This was very convincing, until I realised how Spam wouldn't have wasted his posts like he did if he was restricted.

[JordanA24]

He has got a point, we did start in day, therefore, no cop investigations. So, what is Spam doing just firing votes everywhere, saying 'That guy is scum' without giving any explaination for it, before buggering off again, saying he isn't going to post anymore, exactly what are you playing at?

[JordanA24]

He has got a point, we did start in day, therefore, no cop investigations. So, what is Spam doing just firing votes everywhere, saying 'That guy is scum' without giving any explaination for it, before buggering off again, saying he isn't going to post anymore, exactly what are you playing at?

Read the thread, cone.

Fine, you were testing reactions, but in the next post, you said I looked scummy, any particular reason?

[JordanA24]

I refuse to play in games that are purposefully being ruined by players. Having a player choose to lurk through an entire day qualifies under that category. However, he's back, so we don't have to worry about that anymore.

True, I just felt you were letting him ruin the game for you, by taking what he did to heart, when you didn't have to.

I'm probably going to vote someone soon.

Suspects: hadhfang, blue zebra, xyzzy. I'm not sure about the whole spambot/atticus thing either.

You are probably scum, too.

Are you just going to throw out accusations for no reason all game?

[JordanA24]

I'm impressed anyone's managed to get a reading on Spam at all.

I'm not sure Jester or Lyncher would fit in with the game, just a bit unorthodox for a 12 player game IMO, but I see where Occult is coming from.

[JordanA24]

Damn you Ocuult, you've nicked my new sig.

[JordanA24]

I doubt both Atticus and Spam are scum, unless they're trying some uber-distancing tactic.

[JordanA24]

Unvote Vote: Hadhfang

[JordanA24]

I voted for Hadhfang because of his odd FOSing rather than voting, and all the other scummy stuff he did earlier.

[JordanA24]

Are you threatening that you are unlynchable?

(not that I want to out a power-role, but if that's the case, I'm just asking for clarification )

What was this all about Atticus? I think it was quite clear Hadhfang was just saying he was town. Hadhfang is scummier at the moment, but that was decidedly odd.

[JordanA24]

FOS: Atticus

[JordanA24]

Sorry for not have played so long. My internet connection at home is failing, and I hope to settle this during the next two days. However if I not get back wednesday I guess I should be replaced.

The next felt very defensive to me but no one else commented on it.

Fine, you were testing reactions, but in the next post, you said I looked scummy, any particular reason?

I get the same feel from his other posts.

vote: JordanA24

He said I looked suspicious without giving any particular reason, and I wanted to know why, that's all.

[JordanA24]

I found you scummy, so I used an inferior argument to prove it.

Townspeople, upon seeing bad logic, tend to say so, and generally don't pick apart the argument; they just make it known that it's a terrible argument and go on.

Scum, however, tend to ignore the argument and find fault in small details, such as not acting on the accusation.

Hey, guess which one you fall under? That's right! The scummy one! (What do you know!)

I love catching scum with intentionally malformed arguments...

We'll lynch you tomorrow, by the way, in case you still want an answer to your question.

The problem is I truly don't know whether you're joking or not, like you are in most of your posts so far. In the last one at least you seem to be serious.
It also strikes me as very defensive and omgussy.

I think it's obvious he's not joking.

[JordanA24]

Bloody hell, I hate Day 1,

I agree that Occult and Atticus are suspicious, but I can't help thinking that the scum might infact be sitting back enjoying the fireworks.

[JordanA24]

How was my early play horrible? I assume you mean when I said I wasn't going to post again on day 1. Well, I am now, so what exactly is the problem with it? Do you think that it didn't get reactions?

You're play was horrible, and saying it was for reactions is the scummiest excuse in the book. There is a huge problem with that sort of post, especially when you say such and such is innocent and such and such is scum, and ESPECIALLY after a post like this:

Vote: TonyMontana

You give no explaination for this, and give no explaination for your next post, which says someone is scum and someone is town for no reason, and saying you're not posting till the next day, guess what, no explaination for that either.

Do you think I am scum and saw my gambit was failing so that I decided it wasn't a good idea?

That's exactly what I think.

How am I being singleminded? I'm voting for Atticus because I think he is the most likely as scum, but I've talked about you and Occult some. I don't want to make a case yet, because it would just distract from lynching Atticus.

Town should be prepared to make cases against anyone they feel to be scum, saying that you think doing so because it would distract the town sounds to me like you just want to quicklynch a convenient target.

As far as staying calm under pressure, it does depend on the person. There are two main personality types as scum: those that react calmly and those that react emotionally.

The first type knows that any scummy points against them are probably valid, so they hope to make a short reply to explain it away and they don't want to draw attention to it.

The second is absolutely petrified of getting lynched, and spazzes out as soon as pressure builds on them. I don't think people stay this way long, because it usually leads to them getting lynched (and newbie townies will react similarly and are the usual sort to get mislynched).

I'm making a judgement call on the sort of player I think he is and decided that I think it's scummy. It doesn't matter if this doesn't convince anybody else, because there are plenty of reasons to find him scummy. If you don't like that one for some reason, pick another.

Here, you're just defeating your own argument, the main reason you're voting for Atticus in the first place is his reaction to pressure, and now you're saying that it's not actually a scumtell, so now you're voting him for making a couple of poor posts, which quite a lot of other players have done, so, I think you're actually voting him for having the biggest bandwagon.

Looking back through you're posts, I feel that infact you are the best Day 1 lynch, not Atticus.

Unvote Vote: Spambot

[JordanA24]

Jordan's timing reeks of opportunisticness.

I'd only just got home.

[JordanA24]

Yay

[JordanA24]

Atticus, Spambot, and ThAdmiral are scum. If there's an SK, it's Occult. If this isn't obvious to you, you are 1)Atticus, Spambot, ThAdmiral, or Occult or 2) dumb.

Why should it be obvious to everybody else? This implies that you have some sort of concrete logic to back this up, and I think it'd a good idea for you to provide it.

Role-fish much?

Confirm Vote: Spambot

[JordanA24]

Fine SB, you might have been trying to catch out townies while you were "testing for reaction", what reactions would you expect from doing that except "Geez, what an idiot this guy is, he needs replacing now". Especially when you say someone is scum/town with no explaination whatsoever.

I say again, town should be prepared to make cases against anyone they think is scum regardless of whether or not you think someone else deserves to be lynched, "It might distract people from lynching Atticus" is a horrible reason for not making cases against others, anybody who might be scum should be lynched, not just the most obvious one.

Also I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling me things like CONE or DERF, it's stupid, childish and making me dislike you more and more with each post you make.

[JordanA24]

Fine SB, you might have been trying to catch out townies while you were "testing for reaction", what reactions would you expect from doing that except "Geez, what an idiot this guy is, he needs replacing now". Especially when you say someone is scum/town with no explaination whatsoever.

Well, a couple people started speculating on my role. A couple wanted me to die, but most people were confused and demanded my immediate replacement. I was setting myself up as an easy mislynch from that, and I wanted to see who bit. It turned out that nobody went really hard after it, so I dropped it. It's nice that you are attacking me for something that happened a week ago. Why are you suddenly suspicious of it if you weren't then?

I thought about it being suspicious before, and when I reread, it was definatly scummy.

I say again, town should be prepared to make cases against anyone they think is scum regardless of whether or not you think someone else deserves to be lynched, "It might distract people from lynching Atticus" is a horrible reason for not making cases against others, anybody who might be scum should be lynched, not just the most obvious one.

I am prepared to make arguments against the people I find scummy, cone. It's not a horrible reason. Look, if I make awesome cases against two people, one I'm sure is scum and one I think is maybe scum, then what happens if I convince half the town that each is scum? I think Atticus is the most likely scum right now, and that making a huge case is going to be a distraction or ignored. I can make a case tomorrow and who I think is next most likely to be scum, when we will all have better information.

WTF? People don't just rely on your cases for their opinions, they have their own brains as well, if people think Atticus is scummy, they'll vote for him, if people think someone else is scummy, they'll vote for that person, you aren't God, deal with it. I'll say it one more time MAKING CASES AGAINST ONLY ONE PERSON IS POOR TOWN PLAY, YOU SHOULD LEARN TO OPEN YOUR MIND A BIT.

Also I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling me things like CONE or DERF, it's stupid, childish and making me dislike you more and more with each post you make.

So, you ask me to stop making fun of you by saying I'm acting stupid and childish? You have all but directly called me an idiot who is terrible at mafia and that the stuff I did earlier was stupid, but we can still be internet BFFs, right? DERFDERFDERF

If I posted what I wanted to here, I'd probably get modkilled for flaming, all I'm going to say instead is that you are one of the biggest morons I've ever had the misfortune to come across. I'm not calling you terrible at mafia and I wasn't calling you an idiot, (though I can safely call you that now, since you obviously are), I was saying that you obviously got a scum role. You meanwhile were just being completely insulting for no reason.

[JordanA24]

You fail at quote tags.

[JordanA24]

I want you to make cases against the others you find scummy.

[JordanA24]

You fail at spelling too

[JordanA24]

No, it's how morons like you spell it.

[JordanA24]

I want you to make cases against the others you find scummy.

Why? I mean,

I'd

be perfectly happy with him changing to another person, but why do you insist on him changing?

I'm not insisting he changes vote or his focus, I just want him to make a case against the other players he finds scummy.

[JordanA24]

Hey guys, I'm going to make this exetremely easy on everyone and claim. I'm SK.

If my opinion after this matters, I think Atticus is scum along with ThAdmiral.

Vote:Atticus

I'm pretty sure you're testing for reactions, I'd never claim if I was SK.

[JordanA24]

I wouldn't get too worked up MOS, I'd be very surprised if he is SK, I'm almost certain he's testing for reactions.

[JordanA24]

That's if he isn't lying about being an SK.

[JordanA24]

Well, site must of died when I submmitted this last night. I'm a lyncher. I thought I'd be more compelled to create a case out of MoS from that. But I'm simply not. On that note MoS is probably cleared.

Two reasons why I still don't believe you:

1) Lyncher is a very unlikely role in a minigame

2) If you were a lyncher, you wouldn't say your target (MOS) is cleared, if he is your target, there's no way you would be able to win.

Unvote Vote: Panzer

Now there's the question of whether this a daring (and stupid) scum tactic or this is scum trying to attach themselves to a townie. I'm more inclined to think the latter, but still:

Small FOS: MOS

[JordanA24]

No I don't, who says you're sane?

[JordanA24]

And if I'm a miller?

[JordanA24]

That was a claim.

[JordanA24]

That was a claim.

That was not a proper claim at all. Flavor-wise, how does a miller make sense, anyway? Unfortunately, your claim is completely unverifiable and is the sort of thing I'd expect scum to claim in this situation. Also, I didn't think it was common for people to know that they're millers.

Nor is it common to have mod confirmed sanities. My role name is "/moo Guy", rather than saying /cows, I insist on saying /moo. No other abilities or unightkillability, nothing.

[JordanA24]

Owned

Indeed, well played.

Quick question, what made you target Hjallti last night?

[JordanA24]

Dice roll.

Ouch, unlucky.

[JordanA24]

Ah well, fun while it lasted.

Bah, go /lost.

[JordanA24]

Wow, that was pretty /cows!

I'm disappointed that you gave up, though; you really should have given some sort of attempt at further defence.

To be fair, there was no real comeback after MOS said I'd been the only one targeting Hjallti.

[JordanA24]

Bah, this game will be remembered with regret for me always. Congrats to the town.

MVP: MOS

[JordanA24]

May I ask to Spambot,

Hadhfang - don't lynch him
ThAdmiral - no read
Spambot - exceedingly unhelpful, but it seems to be his playstyle
xyzzy - playing as usual (from my exp)
Atticus - playing as usual (from my exp)
Blue Zebra - rather scummy comments regaring JordanA24
Occult - I don't remember him doing anything remarkable this game. Couldn't have told you he was in the game had I not just mentioned him.

Vote: Blue Zebra

MASTERMIND OF SIN - GIANT FLAMING DOUCHE BAG

What on Earth this was in aid of?