Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[istott]

Hey everyone. I have not yet looked at my role pm, and will not before I read through the entire thread and post some sort of reads. This is what I do when I replace into games.

<<< istott has been informed that this is against the rules, and has remedied it by stating his role PM to me. >>>

[istott]

Sorry, turns out I have to read my pm.
With regards to bulbazak saying he got a guilty result on me, I'll say this:
I'm currently on page two, so I have no idea if previous me has claimed, but I'm a one shot miller. If you investigate me again tonight, you'll get a town result.

[istott]

This post was made with #87 as my most recently read post.
I'm sorta worried about the wagon on Nazarene, and it seems that jackel has already posted his role name. So that's cool.

[istott]

End of page 5: shos doesn't seem to be posting much valuably, and he called me a possibility for a policy lynch right after saying he believed the claim.....

[istott]

Sorry, I was writing a read list for another game, and my sister really wanted to play Mario Kart 8 with me (I bought a Wii U day before yesterday). I will be up to date promptly. The reason I saw this post is because I'm right in the middle of making one, so this post appeared down the bottom.

[istott]

ok so i caught up but feeling lazy and tired sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

read list

1. shos - dunno, his last scum game is largly outdated, what was the case on him before? he was gambiting or some stupid shit?
2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor) - i have trouble reading aegor so im kinda waiting this one out. teir i have seen just be a derp
3. Voidedmafia - havent played with ever so im going to see how it unfolds
4. Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic+Titus) - its fucking titus, shes alwasy scum
5. Bulbazak - truth be told i have this huge biased with the stly he does and wil by default scumr ead it
6. EddieFenix - afk?
7. ProHawk - could be scum, i want to see how he plays out first
6. ika - not a hammer but a troll role
9. Doyouthinkhesaurus (Mathdino+blindmewithscience) - town considir it a mixture of meta and ~reasons~
10. BBmolla - scum, a major overreaction to my "first" read list
11. pirate mollie - mollie needs to talk with me, if shes known to be like me i will solve her merly by interacting
12. Jackel98 - i still dont get the case outside of "one-shot miller"
13. DrippingGoofball - im just ignoring untill further notice after bulbas agme.

This is where I'm up to, but I need to make a post about this. Ika, you need to work on your grammar. Im not saying that your posts should be perfect (I always forget apostrophes), but if you talk like this, it becomes very hard to understand you. Also, laziness is not an excuse, and dont expect other people to fill you in as a result of your laziness.

[istott]

Ok, I'm here.

I have been following along a bit.

Shos is scum along with Sonic Boom and Ika (cause anybody that makes colorful list has to be scum, amiright!!)

Vote Shos

Peace

Just read this. Immediately stood out to me. Unless guille has posted something better, I'll probably be voting for him.

[istott]

@Bulba: where was your guilty result? Or were you trying something?
UNVOTE: Shos
VOTE: guille2015
Guille2015 is easily my strongest scumread at this point. Lack of reasoning, and also I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he's town (see what I did there?).
I will post a read list ASAP.

[istott]

Also, I feel I need to say this:
@Mastin2: You are putting an absolutely astounding amount of effort into this game. I tip my hat off to you.

<<< Don't thank me yet! Last game I modded had a similar strong start, yet absolutely crashed at the end. (I have an unhealthy obsession with perfection in mafia games and devote way too much time to tasks.)

Thank me when the game's over!

(Well, assuming you don't hate me by then, that is... )

>>>

[istott]

But there has to be something driving your gut. I want to know what it is. What is coming across as town?

The Titus head. Sonic's head not so much.

The Titus head has barely spoken. Show me what you see as town.

Three shot friendly neighbor was the most obvious bullshit claimever that town let pass and lynched me when I outed the entire scumteam.

First it was FN.
Roleblocked FN.
Targeted the dead guy.
3 shot suddenly. Targeted buddy.
Mislynch town.
ML my hydra.

Ika hammers everything and its brother as town. He also always tunnels my ass.

Sonic talk to me before voting. I hate the jackal vote. Skype me.

Unvote

UNVOTE: SHOS

OK, you are off the hook for now. These last three post are completely different from your earlier posts. If you keep it up, I won't consider you scum anymore.

Place masking tape on the left side of the screen and ISO yourself. You'll see what I mean.

So, what are your thoughts on Ika and Void?

Five bucks says shos changed a read or two.

Guille's posting is very opportunistic. I have been catching up in my games on site. Hydra games are at the bottom because someone else can post.

Between Sonic and Titus, Sonic's posts have been incredibly bad. I tend to at least try to judge a hydra based on BOTH players, and not just one. I notice that sonic hasn't been holding up jack squat as far as their hydra goes. However, when reading Titus posts, I don't know why exactly, but there's something about them...

I see what you mean. I'll definitely wait until they give a defence/roleclaim before I even think about hammering though.

[istott]

Wow, I really should've just quoted fenix's part.

[istott]

Cop claims allow me to ignore everything

cop claims grant amnesty to all "subjective scummy" actions.

These may be the most scummy things I have read.

[istott]

I dunno, but this cop claim has made me suspect sonic even more. I would definitely like titus' head to join in before I consider voting.

[istott]

but what I find really strange is that istott picked up on metal being a "cop" and then metal claims cop and then says he didn't crumb.

No idea what you're talking about.

[istott]

Wait guys, what if there's no scum? That would definitely be unbalanced.
Seriously.

mastin: is there definitely a scum team? If there wasn't, would you lie about it in your answer?

<<< I would be the first to admit the idea of a no-scum game has run through my mind.
This is not this kind of game. I guarantee you there are scum in the game. >>>

[istott]

@ProHawk: Yet you have nothing except your "anyone who setup specs at all is scum" logic. You literally said I'm the first person who spec'd that you found scummy. So why did you wait until now to vote me? I've talked about the setup before.
You're avoiding OMGUS accusations.

@istott: Just have anyone with a kill ability not use it and we'll know by tomorrow. It's pretty simple.

Not necessarily. I once hosted a game (I host a lot of IRL, within a tight group of friends) where there were 5 or 7 players (can't remember). I decided to play a prank on them where there was no mafia. I would RNG kill a player each night, and the town would win if any of them speculated that there was no mafia. They all greatly enjoyed it (especially when they died and found out), and even though in forum mafia it would be considered bastard, this has been warned to be a bastard game.

[istott]

I know.

[istott]

Oh wow.
VOTE: Prohawk.

[istott]

I just had an epiphany. Why the hell would mastin put a completely normal cop in this game?
She wouldn't.

[istott]

I may be wrong, but by looking at my role, I have the feeling that a lot of the roles in this game are non-normal, or bastard. My claim of one shot miller actually fits in more thematically than sonic's claim.

[istott]

I just had an epiphany. Why the hell would mastin put a completely normal cop in this game?
She wouldn't.

Can you be so sure of that? Can you be so sure that there's only 1 cop in the game as well?

I'm not sure. It was just a hunch.

[istott]

<<< The best part of the image is the flexibility behind the meaning of the words. There are at least three different ways that could be read:
"I must move with great speed",
"I must go without eating",
And, "*gripping nether-regions* I gotta GO. Fast!"

Now tell me, which do you think a hydra-slipping Sonic is? >>>

[istott]

<<< The best part of the image is the flexibility behind the meaning of the words. There are at least three different ways that could be read:
"I must move with great speed",
"I must go without eating",
And, "*gripping nether-regions* I gotta GO. Fast!"

Now tell me, which do you think a hydra-slipping Sonic is? >>>

I legit laughed for half a minute.
Thank you so much, mastin.
It would have to be number one though.

[istott]

By number two, do you mean number three?

[istott]

Hey, Bulba! Happy 2 years!

[istott]

i dont think the policy lynch of DGB is a great idea. As Nazarene said, we do have plenty of scum candidates.

[istott]

At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:

Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.

I'll get into more detail in a little while.

Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.

Must check it later.

The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.

I must check that.

and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.

I'll get to it

when my mind clears.

Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias

. Can't do it right know.

Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!

[istott]

That's kind of a bad reason to vote someone tbh.

358 was followed up by 361 in which he did get into more detail.

427 was followed up by 435 in which he ended up voting them.

432 was later followed up by an unvote which rendered his 'I must check that' nullified.

And 676 and 677 were made just today.

Find better reasons.

Point taken. I should be more careful. But I still prefer this wagon to the other possibilities at the moment.

[istott]

At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:

Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.

I'll get into more detail in a little while.

Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.

Must check it later.

The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.

I must check that.

and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.

I'll get to it

when my mind clears.

Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias

. Can't do it right know.

Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!

Istott is town

Any reason?

[istott]

What, for giving my opinion? Or because I didnt scumread you?

[istott]

What, for giving my opinion? Or because I didnt scumread you?

Probly the latter at this point.

Yeah, I agree.

[istott]

Mastin2: I will be leaving to go to another state for my sister's engagement party. I will be leaving at around 6pm GMT on Friday, and will get back at around 6am GMT on Monday. Local time, i'm leaving at 7am, so I probably wont have time to post before I wake up, so consider me VLA from 11am GMT on Friday to 6 am GMT on Monday.

<<< Alright, got it. >>>

[istott]

I've seen a new side to guille.
And if just the fact that he has claimed JK, UNVOTE: guille2015, VOTE: prohawk.

[istott]

I've just woken up, and don't have enough time before the deadline to read. What has happened?

[istott]

Why the hell do we have a claimed cop at l-1?

[istott]

This game screams multiple cops

[istott]

Ok, cool. I'll read up.

[istott]

This game screams multiple cops

And you're voting me. Bright one.

Did I miss a claim from you?

[istott]

Why the hell do we have a claimed cop at l-1?

cos you haven't read the game and not seen the way he claimed?

fucking derp town.

You don't need to insult me for being asleep.

[istott]

RIP shos. May your sole rest in heaven, while your body stays on earth, laced with lead. Your death will not mean our defeet.
I don't really know what to think of sonics choice of target...

[istott]

I'm more interested in your read on me ISTOTT

Hmmmmm, I'm not sure. I need to refresh myself on the cases against you, but I just looked at your ISO, and there weren't any blatant Scumtells.
I do have something to ask of you though.

How would you (without any bias) describe the case against you?

This goes for

mathdino

too.

[istott]

Yeah bulbazak. That's why I was concerned. I mean, I'm more of a surety than Mollie.

[istott]

I'm more interested in your read on me ISTOTT

Hmmmmm, I'm not sure. I need to refresh myself on the cases against you, but I just looked at your ISO, and there weren't any blatant Scumtells.
I do have something to ask of you though.

How would you (without any bias) describe the case against you?

This goes for

mathdino

too.

Actually, everyone (who has been accused of being scum) please answer this. It could be useful.
Thanks for your answer, prohawk.

[istott]

There is a general consensus that I am a one shot miller.
You investigate me, I show as guilty, youre probably sane. You investigate me and I show as innocent, you're probably insane.

[istott]

@Sonic: If you were trying to figure out your sanity, why didn't you investigate Istott?

I'm just clarifying this post, Mollie.

[istott]

This is not a leading question, ika. Thanks for answering.
I think the reason people thought/think I'm scum is because I have a very unrealistic role.

[istott]

I'm not sure why Mollie voted for me. I think my 920 may have looked somewhat over confident in other players reads of me.

[istott]

There is a general consensus that I am a one shot miller.
You investigate me, I show as guilty, youre probably sane. You investigate me and I show as innocent, you're probably insane.

Oh, I forgot you replaced that jackal dude LOL

Yeah.

[istott]

Please clarify the last sentence of that post, boom. I didn't understand it.

[istott]

I don't like the '1 shot miller' claim, and I would have called Jackal scum based on it. You appear townier, thus I am just going to ignore the claim instead of calling you scum too.

By ignoring the claim, do you mean that you don't believe it?

[istott]

VOTE: istott

I'm assuming this is for the miller claim?

I dunno, I claimed in one of my first posts.

[istott]

Why did you vote me, Mollie?

[istott]

I'm not buying what sonic is selling. VOTE: sonic. I don't think hes being honest.

[istott]

Do I need to mention how bad the above post is?

No.

[istott]

You're very welcome to lynch 2 cops in a row though

And die

Is that a threat?

[istott]

Yeh bich

U lynch me

ur

town loses

Is that a scum Slip?

[istott]

Wow, such juxtaposition of tone.
P.edit: keep yelling and screaming, you mean?

[istott]

Hey guys, just gotta let y'all know: I'm gonna be abit less active for the next week or so, as I have auditions for uni courses (music theatre auditions) in the next few days, so I have to spend more time on that. I'll try to keep up, but just know that Its not an alignment reason. For the next few days, I won't really be able to do much other than stay up to date, and comment on the especially important stuff. If you want me to do something, tell me.
Also, I'm switching to a new user, to prevent confusion (around how experienced I am.)
The new user is "eyestott".

[istott]

Having trouble activating him, though.

[istott]

HAHAHAHAHAHA wow

[istott]

am thoroughly enjoying reading the mod QT flavour

Right, I should probably put that all in-thread.

Shame that I didn't get to do N3 flavor. I totally woulda delayed the daystart if I had known that I wouldn't get the chance to write anything but a final lynch scene.

Also, I want to ask you as players: I'm seeing pretty good feedback for the game, which is a good sign, but there's something I want to know. I know that, for ME, sitting in the mod's chair, this game was so much of a blast to have been a part of that I'd definitely call it a Game of the Year contender, but I'm biased as the creator of the game and having sit from a point of omnipotence. So was it just good-good, or was it amazingly-awesome-good? (GOTY contender.)

Yes. Definitely. I both thouroughly enjoyed every minute, and actually feel I learnt something.

[istott]

^^
best account ever

except maybe koreanBBQ

Who are you referring to?
Also, Yay Me!
I was on all the scum lynches, and IIRC, not on any town ones.(actual lynches, not votes)

[istott]

Also, Mastin has put the most effort into modding that I have seen. Personalised player messages, Extended votecounts, to name some of the things that stood out to me.