I have been following along a bit.
Shos is scum along with Sonic Boom and Ika (cause anybody that makes colorful list has to be scum, amiright!!)
Peace
In post 360, Voidedmafia wrote:Also, guile, I'd say uni stuff is a bit more time-intensive than most things (other than a job or project you're working on, maybe). That's not really a good reason in the first place because that only works if the lack of participation is because there is a measure of non-want there. Or, in a possibly better-worded situation, it only works if the player in question is using their "little time to play" excuse as a reason to not play, rather than as an explanation for why they're doing what little they have been.
In post 362, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:guille, ika does that like every game. He takes the playerlist and randomly colours it however he wants and says those are his reads. It's some kind of reaction test. ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.
In post 429, shos wrote:but at the moment the trend seems to be to call me town
In post 197, Sonic Boom wrote:jackal shos prohawk
In post 267, Sonic Boom wrote:Ika hammers everything and its brother as town. He also always tunnels my ass.
Sonic talk to me before voting. I hate the jackal vote. Skype me.
Unvote
In post 306, Sonic Boom wrote:In post 305, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 294, ProHawk wrote:I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.
this is legit
VOTE: shos
VOTE: shos
Ok, i might be rehashing what Shos said but your accusation is pretty much mirrored twice on these two posts.In post 415, Sonic Boom wrote:i will find time to read this game during one of my free reading periods
right now not really
VOTE: guille
scummy and opportunistic
Can you please elaborate on why my reads are bad?In post 384, Sonic Boom wrote:and guille reads are bad lolol
In post 286, ika wrote:ok so i caught up but feeling lazy and tired sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
read list
1. shos - dunno, his last scum game is largly outdated, what was the case on him before? he was gambiting or some stupid shit?
2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor) - i have trouble reading aegor so im kinda waiting this one out. teir i have seen just be a derp
3. Voidedmafia - havent played with ever so im going to see how it unfolds
4. Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic+Titus) - its fucking titus, shes alwasy scum
5. Bulbazak - truth be told i have this huge biased with the stly he does and wil by default scumr ead it
6. EddieFenix - afk?
7. ProHawk - could be scum, i want to see how he plays out first
6. ika - not a hammer but a troll role
9. Doyouthinkhesaurus (Mathdino+blindmewithscience) - town considir it a mixture of meta and ~reasons~
10. BBmolla - scum, a major overreaction to my "first" read list
11. pirate mollie - mollie needs to talk with me, if shes known to be like me i will solve her merly by interacting
12. Jackel98 - i still dont get the case outside of "one-shot miller"
13. DrippingGoofball - im just ignoring untill further notice after bulbas agme.
In post 513, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:guille's 434 is pinging me. "OK, [shos is] off the hook for now... If you keep it up, I won't consider you scum anymore." Really not liking guille at this point.
In post 472, Nazarene wrote:@guille: Do you mind explaining your reads on ika and SonicBoom, given that you clearly have way more conviction than almost anyone else? The SB one is obvious given recent posts, but I would like to know your basis when you entered the game.
In post 513, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:@guille: I don't know if ika colours up reads lists like that as scum. Either way, it's a nulltell. Seems to be a personal preference for him. Why is ProHawk town?
In post 517, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:The wording makes your scumread on shos seem fake. That, and telling him what to do to make him seem less scummy. It's like you're asking shos to do something that'll keep you off his wagon.
In post 679, Mathdino wrote:@guille: ika's play is naturally insanely scummy as both alignments. With him you just have to look at motivations and I haven't seen much scum motivation in him this game.
Also he seems generally more logical as scum from what little I've read. Has anyone played with scum ika?
In post 714, istott wrote:At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:
In post 358, guille2015 wrote:Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.I'll get into more detail in a little while.I did later in the next several posts.
In post 427, guille2015 wrote:Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.Must check it later.I did, and eventually voted for him.
In post 432, guille2015 wrote:The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.I must check that.Found nothing
In post 677, guille2015 wrote:and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.I'll get to itwhen my mind clears.See below.
In post 676, guille2015 wrote:Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias. Can't do it right know.This is, in essence the same post as before. And it wasyesterday, so yeah, i haven't gotten to it.
Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!
In post 752, Mathdino wrote:guille, please provide last words and a claim. This is
intent to hammer by the deadline.
In post 756, istott wrote:I've seen a new side to guille.
And if just the fact that he has claimed JK, UNVOTE: guille2015, VOTE: prohawk.
In post 766, Bulbazak wrote:What about that hissy fit she threw a little bit ago? That looks like she's very much concerned about what others think, which is odd, because she usually doesn't.
In post 904, Sonic Boom wrote:Has anybody heard of a scum jailkeeper? I have!
In post 916, istott wrote:In post 912, istott wrote:ProHawk wrote:I'm more interested in your read on me ISTOTT
Hmmmmm, I'm not sure. I need to refresh myself on the cases against you, but I just looked at your ISO, and there weren't any blatant Scumtells.
I do have something to ask of you though.How would you (without any bias) describe the case against you?
This goes formathdinotoo.
Actually, everyone (who has been accused of being scum) please answer this. It could be useful.
Thanks for your answer, prohawk.
In post 922, ika wrote:from what i recall the reason why i was being called scum was really on these points:
-inconsistency
-generally being scummy
thats what i can recall offhand.
In post 937, Bulbazak wrote:I do. Claiming a guilty on Mollie and then turning around to say that he must be insane is not a pro-scum move. It essentially turns him into policy lynch material, which is bad for a scum wincon. He'd have been better off claiming an innocent on a town player and leaving sanity ambiguous. The only way this makes sense for Sonic-scum is if you also believe Mollie is scum, which you've given zero indication.
Plus, I believe Sonic-town would investigate Mollie for those reasons.
In post 1001, ika wrote:I need to be lynched before i can post or reveal myself as scum is what your saying? that makes like even less sense then what i tend to post half of the time.
In post 1039, DrippingGoofball wrote:Ika is tttttoooootally town.
In post 1057, pirate mollie wrote:
while I kinda wanna hear metal out I also feel like he is stalling.
In post 1069, Bulbazak wrote:So much wrong with this... 1.) Why would you deny town this information? What happens if you die? That's one less piece of information town has to work with. Also, that means we don't have enough information to accurately read you, especially when there are some of us that are not confident about your alignment. 2.) How can you reaction test a target when you don't tell them you targeted them? That makes no sense. Night activity alone means very little, especially when you have nothing to put it into context. All you should know given your role is that your target couldn't do anything. There's no way to determine if they could in the first place or if they even attempted, and you still can't come up with that information regardless of what you do in the thread. If you are looking to gauge reactions, you should be looking in the thread, and all of this is impossible if you don't say who you targeted. That action is not going to produce reactions. Period. Let's not even get into the fact that the only way you can test reactions is by announcing your target, and that would allow everyone in the thread to gauge reactions, which would lead to better scumhunting. 3.) How in the world would revealing who you targeted harm town? Information is good. It helps town figure things out. Withholding information is what harms town, especially when you're an outed PR that can give us an insight into the big picture.
In post 1321, pirate mollie wrote:@ nazerene
I wld think that guille wld use his role as a protective rather than a block given the knowledge he had at the time. he wasn't protecting ika, he was BLOCKING ika who is pretty town. smells like scum to me.
In post 1381, Mathdino wrote:What are the chances that mafia have a roleblocker and blocked guille?
In post 1434, EddieFenix wrote:I don't see anyone but you who's dead set on night actions tbh. The problem being is why do I HAVE to target you to confirmyour power?My power could get re-directed just as much as yours could when you think about it.
In post 1465, guille2015 wrote:Prohawk: Do you think Nazarene is Scum? If you had an ambiguous result on someone dependent on their claim, would you request them to claim?
In post 1514, eyestott wrote:.
2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor) - Claimed possibly insane tracker. N1 found bulba targeting shos. N2 tracked Prohawk to no one.
6. EddieFenix - Useful result N1 on Sonic
7. ProHawk - Claimed Ultimate Cop, innocent on Bulba on N1, no action N2
In post 1520, eyestott wrote:That post was completely unbiased, I just wrote the info each person had given, plus death reveals.